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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:45PM PR0F3TA said

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in b4 bickering fanboys from either side of the fence

remember children, if you play with both sides of the fence you'll only get a wedgie
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:52PM Anthology said

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I want FFXIV on the PC, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360. I'm going to buy FFXIV for the PC. All of my friends will be buying different versions.

I want FFXIV to be on the PC, PS3, and Xbox 360. I own all platforms, but I want Square Enix to make an engrossing experience I can share with all of my friends.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 8:11PM (Unverified) said

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Playing for both sides will give ya a sore bum. I play for all 4 though myself, I'm a gamer whore.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 8:59PM DeepFriedSushi said

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i'll probably get devoted but mmos really do belong on pc. i'm not saying they cant work on consoles but are better on pc.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2009 1:22AM eat it said

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is that big bird?
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:46PM kevin949 said

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I wonder what this policy in question is about.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:49PM No Kill Tayler said

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Most likely a subscription based system.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:52PM PR0F3TA said

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if XIV turns out to be subscription based (which it prob will) Microsoft wants to see $$ from it since they are going to use their LIVE gamertag system.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:27PM Xav de Matos said

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It may be a server issue, actually. Very few companies have the ability to control their own issues... and even when they do, Microsoft monitors them as part of the service to make sure they are working smoothly.

This was a major reason EA titles were not on Xbox Live for a long time last generation.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:54PM Ballistic H said

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We know Microsoft will soften the rules to make it happen. Look at the size limit for XBLA games: went from 50MB to 150MB to 350MB to 2GB now.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 9:03PM DeepFriedSushi said

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^this, if your company can place enough pressure microsoft will become lax with their rules.

as far as ffxiv goes i have a feeling it has to do with cross platform play. while pc+360 is fine since games for windows they dont want to have to have to make necessary changes to accommodate for 360/ps3 cross platform play and imo they shouldnt have to it should be ps3 that should have to make the changes as live for 360/pc is already a established online platform.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 11:46PM NinjaJesus said

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Most likely it'll be cross platform like FFXI so it really wont matter which console you get it on.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2009 5:35AM samdu said

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Actually, PlayOnline is an established system as well. And I doubt Squenix wants to use Live for Windows (they don't for FFXI). The hold up may very well be a Live issue and getting cross platform (PC (again, non-live), 360, and PS3) play going.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2009 11:51AM Feist77 said

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I think it is that Square/Enix wants you to just have access to the internet and their fees. Microsoft want to require GOLD to game online.

Square wants it it be avialabe to the silver members also, but MS is sort of blocking this.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:47PM PedoJokerBear said

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OH COME ON!
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:49PM False said

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I don't suppose that policy would be the Silver/Gold memberships, would it? Square wants everyone to be able to play, while MS wants to keep Silver members out in the cold.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:00PM Mr Khan said

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I believe Microsoft has a problem with 3rd parties wanting to use their own servers, the kind of system that PSN encourages and that even Nintendo leaves optional

Not entirely sure on that, but i seem to remember it was a sticking point with FFXI 360

Microsoft wants it all to run on LIVE, or so i believe.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:03PM KiraXD said

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@ David, no FFXI didnt require a Gold Membership on XBLA... you could have silver and then pay 12$ monthly to SE only.

This is what im currently doing.

Also theres no reason that the game wouldnt be able to run on the same servers as every console/pc that the new game might be made for...

im running FFXI on

360
PS3
PC
PS2

so i know for a fact it can be done.

the only thing stopping FFXIV from being on the 360 is XBLA membership and what MS decides to do with the new game.... also.... hope they find a better way to deal with gamertag/account linking. (FFXI POL account linking was so retarded to manage mules and friends characters)
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:04PM KiraXD said

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doh... meant for Davids comment below, ssorry
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 9:05PM DeepFriedSushi said

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i doubt that since there are games that already disprove what youre getting at. PSU/FFXI both dont require gold accounts to play but a monthly fee.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:49PM Puertoricarious said

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i'm happy to pay $30 a year for a solid online network, but if FF14 comes to the xbox and requires a separate fee ON TOP of xbox live, then both squeenix and microsoft can go to hell.

not that i'm too concerned....FF11 was disappointing and definitely made up my mind that i have no interest whatsoever in FF going online.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:52PM Omega2k3 said

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Thinking you need two subs completely invalidates anything you said.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:54PM Puertoricarious said

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isn't that how ff11 worked? you had to pay for gold, and then you had to pay to play the game itself on a monthly basis?
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:59PM Puertoricarious said

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nevermind, just found out that it doesn't.

either way, it doesn't take away from what i was getting at. my hope is that microsoft will figure out something that will make gold members not have to pay extra. i'm already paying to play online (and i think it's well worth it), but paying an extra fee for a specific game is almost insulting. it's like if i paid for my internet and then google starts charging me for every search.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:09PM KiraXD said

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MS has no control over that part... SE charges for their online play regardless of what console you choose you pay SE directly.

all gold account members will still have to pay SE to play online... and thats not SE's fault... nor is it MS's fault... its kinda just something that sucks.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:23PM Puertoricarious said

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MS can easily exert control over the situation by paying SE a certain amount of money to make up for gold members not paying the SE subscription fee. At this point I'm equating MS to the world's greatest philanthropists so it's damned unlikely, but still, it would be nice.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 9:14PM Vcize said

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You could play FF11 on XBL with silver.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2009 3:38AM Omega2k3 said

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lol, I was downvoted to oblivion.

If he doesn't put a lick of research into what he says, why shouldn't I call him out for it? You don't need gold to play FFXI, and it's ridiculous to assume the >$3/month you're putting in to Microsoft will somehow translate into the $13/month that Square Enix charges. Get real...
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:51PM (Unverified) said

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From what we've seen recently on Microsoft's policies, getting the games to the players is their first priority. The fact that they're in talks is good news for their platform.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 8:52PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and call it now, it's only a matter of time before it's announced at 360.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:50PM SpaceFox said

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........... DAMMIT SQUARE! -.-
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:50PM No Kill Tayler said

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Buying this for PS3, my computer can't even handle world of goo.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:55PM Sly C said

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yeah, plants vs. zombies is the newest game i can run on my computer. even source games run pretty bad (which is a shock). did i mention my laptop is less than 6 months old? yeah.

i hate integrated graphics with a passion.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:00PM Typicalgamer said

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seriously!!?!??! my laptop is a $600 sony vaio that can barely run half life and it's 3-4 years old!!!
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:01PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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guys you can get a $500 PC that runs Crysis @ 40fps....lol....just think of it as another console and jump on it
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:16PM Sly C said

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well, i can't, since i don't have any money or a job...
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:20PM No Kill Tayler said

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I have a gateway pc, yeah that it explains it all right?
fine i'll go nerd on you.

i have intel 82945G express chipset family.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:26PM (Unverified) said

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You guys are lucky. I'm still running on a computer from the 90's. Thank god for broadband.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 9:07PM DeepFriedSushi said

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@sony boy, sony vaios are like the macs of pc. absolutely pathetic computing power at a marked up price. you're basically paying extra for a plastic shell.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 9:35PM IslandLife said

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@deepfriedsushi

Power is nothing if you don't have a good OS to run it, and for me my Macbook Pro provides both.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 10:35PM No Kill Tayler said

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Yeah i have "Intel Viiv" and really, its nothing special. Theirs all these composites and you set up a top box but I don't have a program to run the composite cables.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 10:43PM (Unverified) said

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Laptops are not good for gaming. Unless you get one with a graphics slot like some Dells or alienware.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 6:57PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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anyone with a Brain already knew this....and Trenton not saying "Timed Exclusive" is no big surprise.....how many times have you heard anyone from MS admit that an exclusive is "timed"?? seriously...
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:00PM KinseySS said

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I figured it would come out on 360 since FFXI eventually made it on Xbox
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:03PM Mr Khan said

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That could be it. I remember my FFXI-fanatic friend saying that 360 players were segregated from the other platforms (PC and PS2). He said that the same was the case for Phantasy Star Universe (which he also plays religiously, but plays the 360 version)
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:04PM rocko213 said

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Is Peter Griffin about to jump out of the woods to beat up that chicken?
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:16PM (Unverified) said

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Mr. Khan is right, my brother plays PSU on Xbox, the Xbox servers are segregated from the PS2/PC servers. They didn't even let him migrate his old character from the PS2 version to the 360 version, he had to start over.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:21PM R Planteer said

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Is anyone seriously surprised that Sony lied about this? Well, I actually am.

I thought for sure Sony had given up on their "we dont pay for exclusives" policy and just shelled out for FFIV, but I guess I was wrong.

Yes, MS has done the same many times, but its still surprising for me. FFIV was the big "thing" sony had at their E3, at least in my eyes.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2009 3:54AM No Kill Tayler said

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Yeah I'm surprised they let this slip.
It wouldn't matter either way.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2009 7:24PM (Unverified) said

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I dont get it, didnt Jack Tretton say this was on ps3 exclusive??? im not complaining
but why did he lie?
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