- It gives a good look at the guts of Sony's new streamlined hardware.
- It gives modders instructions on how to prepare their consoles for Frankenstein-ation.
- It teaches Xbox fanboys how to obliterate the PS3 Slim in a showy, $300 act of protest.
Reader Comments (67)
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:20AM PlatinumSkeet said
Articles misleading I thought I was gonna see some stuff blow up...
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:20AM TheDarkWayne said
Come on Griffin, we all know that guy in the video was you. You just put on a pimp hat to disguise yourself!
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:23AM StormEagle said
People that destroy expensive equipment and then upload it to video are a waste of life. It's one thing if it doesn't work anymore but when people walk into a store, buy a brand-new piece of hardware and then take it right outside only to destroy it, that's just wrong. If you're just going to throw your money away, why not do something a little more useful with it, like donating it to a hospital or something. I know we could certainly use it to buy more consoles that would actually see use!
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:27AM CaptainProtonX said
Cranky today?
It's just a teardown. I enjoy these. Shows me the insides without getting dirty.
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It's just a teardown. I enjoy these. Shows me the insides without getting dirty.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:28AM TheDarkWayne said
he meant the video where the kid in the pimpsuit buys a new PS3 and destroys it, along with the no doubt hundreds of similar videos
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:29AM StormEagle said
I'm not talking about the teardown. I'm talking about the YouTube video. And no, I'm not cranky, just passionate.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:36AM CaptainProtonX said
Oooo...I didn't get past the teardown.
People still do this "destroy a machine" routine? I thought this went out of fashion with the 360 launch in 2005.
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People still do this "destroy a machine" routine? I thought this went out of fashion with the 360 launch in 2005.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:46AM SweetJohnnyCage said
People donated a few dollars each to the smashmy[system].com guys to stand in line and dothat. It's not like they used their own money to do it. Relax.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:50AM StormEagle said
@Sweetjohnnycage - What' the difference? It's wasted money. May as well flush it down the toilet.
@whylekat - THAT's the kind of crap I'm referring to.
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@whylekat - THAT's the kind of crap I'm referring to.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:53AM (Unverified) said
@captainprotonx
"I thought this went out of fashion with the 360 launch in 2005"
Nope. That guy in the video did the same thing with the PSP in 2005 and with the Wii and PS3 in 2006.
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"I thought this went out of fashion with the 360 launch in 2005"
Nope. That guy in the video did the same thing with the PSP in 2005 and with the Wii and PS3 in 2006.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:53AM MystileArmor said
I can't help but wondering if that possibly could be Sprinkles in that vid.... lol
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:54AM StormEagle said
Can't you just let him go Mystile? Or is he the Joker to your Batman?
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 12:47PM MystileArmor said
Yeah meh... he's more like the stinky piece of shit you stepped in once, once in a while you can still smell it on your shoe. That kind of deal.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:26AM CaptainProtonX said
Dammit, I need a bigger HD. 20GB can't last. Batman: AA took 1.5 gigs!
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 11:45AM Wiizer said
You must have been a 360 user before you were a PS3 user... The great thing about PS3's is that you don't have to dismantle the entire thing to swap out the hard drive for a bigger one.
Heck, you don't even void the warranty, or break any agreements if your replace the hard drive!
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Heck, you don't even void the warranty, or break any agreements if your replace the hard drive!
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 12:24PM PR0F3TA said
you're prob the only person left in the world with the original 20 gig HDD on your PS3... buy a bigger one man, i had a 40 gig and mine filled up in less then a year. Try Newegg for cheap HDD's
oh and congrats on owning a 20gig PS3, it may be lacking key features but at least you have what fanboys still bitch about.
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oh and congrats on owning a 20gig PS3, it may be lacking key features but at least you have what fanboys still bitch about.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:16PM AirIntake said
Troll? Hardly. I'm just wondering why the same game requires a 1.5g install on one system but not the other. Is it true they do this due to BDROM speeds or do they just do this because they can because PS3s generally have large hard drives? I don't hate the PS3, I'm buying the slim as soon as I find one in stores.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:18PM R Planteer said
Keep telling yourself that Wiizer. Its just a conicidence that all these games that need no installing on the 360, from a variety of developers, mysteriously require installs on the PS3.
Nothing to do with the PS3 at all.
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Nothing to do with the PS3 at all.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:24PM Vidikron said
"Keep telling yourself that Wiizer. Its just a conicidence that all these games that need no installing on the 360, from a variety of developers, mysteriously require installs on the PS3."
Actually it's usually because the 360 is often the lead platform and the game is optimized for DVD. Then many devs don't both optimizing the game for BR since it's easier for them to just do an install since all PS3s have HDDs. There are plenty of games on the PS3 without installs as well.
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Actually it's usually because the 360 is often the lead platform and the game is optimized for DVD. Then many devs don't both optimizing the game for BR since it's easier for them to just do an install since all PS3s have HDDs. There are plenty of games on the PS3 without installs as well.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:29PM R Planteer said
So MGS4 required an install on the PS3 because it was optimized for the 360...wait what?
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:33PM R Planteer said
I'm not saying that it cant be done. But saying that the PS3 has nothing to do with PS3 games requiring installs whereas no PS1/PS2/Wii/Xbox 360 games do is nothing but blind fanboyism.
Yes, Blu-ray is very nice, high capacity, and is the future (for now, at least) but because of its shit read speeds many PS3 games require installs. You cannot refute this without arguing against science, im sorry.
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Yes, Blu-ray is very nice, high capacity, and is the future (for now, at least) but because of its shit read speeds many PS3 games require installs. You cannot refute this without arguing against science, im sorry.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:38PM Vidikron said
I don't see where anyone is saying that it isn't due to the Blu-Ray, but Wiizer is correct in saying that devs could avoid if they wanted. Most devs are simply used to working with DVDs and many don't bother optimizing for BR, especially on multiplats. It's as simple as that. It's hardly a big deal anyway. Batman, for example, takes about 3 minutes to install. Who gives a shit?
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:40PM Wiizer said
So, when the 360 has a bigger install than the PS3, then it's not the 360's dault? WTF!
You're the blind fanboy. Read speeds have shit to do with installs. Especially installs that big, comparatively. Why couldn't they make both the same size??? Your arguement is completely stupid, but that's okay. It's your level of thinking.
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You're the blind fanboy. Read speeds have shit to do with installs. Especially installs that big, comparatively. Why couldn't they make both the same size??? Your arguement is completely stupid, but that's okay. It's your level of thinking.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:43PM R Planteer said
I'm not saying that anyone gives a shit, or that its any sort of problem at all. But the blu-ray drive is the problem, and hey, guess what? The blu-ray drive is a component of the PS3. Ergo, it IS because of the ps3 that that games require installs. If the PS3 had a DVD drive, it wouldnt require installs. Im not saying that it would be BETTER for the PS3 to have a blu ray drive, but you cannot say that I am wrong.
It may not be bad, it may be better that the PS3 needs installs and has blu ray, but it IS because of the PS3 that some PS3 games require installs.
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It may not be bad, it may be better that the PS3 needs installs and has blu ray, but it IS because of the PS3 that some PS3 games require installs.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:45PM (Unverified) said
@Wiizer:
You don't need to dismantle your 360 to install a new HDD. I have no idea what you're talking about. You press a button and pull on it, and it pops right off.
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You don't need to dismantle your 360 to install a new HDD. I have no idea what you're talking about. You press a button and pull on it, and it pops right off.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:46PM R Planteer said
Funny, I havent made any fanboyish comments this thread.
No 360 games require installs. The only benefit of a 360 install would be less noise and slightly elevated load times.
Many PS3 games require installs.
Im not hating on the PS3, but dont fucking lie and say "the fact that the ps3 requires installs has nothing at all to do with the ps3."
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No 360 games require installs. The only benefit of a 360 install would be less noise and slightly elevated load times.
Many PS3 games require installs.
Im not hating on the PS3, but dont fucking lie and say "the fact that the ps3 requires installs has nothing at all to do with the ps3."
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:54PM ACLerok212 said
I think BD speeds vs. DVD speeds is irrelevant here. It's a fact that everything will load faster from the HDD however no matter how fast your optical drive is. I'm assuming most developers make you install just because a HD comes standard with all PS3s so if you can make people install files to the HDD without too much backlash, and it improves the performance of your game, then why not do it? It's not a decision they can consider as easily on the 360 since there's a greater percentage of people without a HDD or the space to free up.
I've seen more than a few games that simply give you the option to install as well, to increase performance. However, the slower speeds you experience if you choose not to certainly aren't a game breaker. It could be that from the developers point of view, it's simply easier to just choose one route and stick with it, especially when you're dealing with more complicated games such as MGS4.
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I've seen more than a few games that simply give you the option to install as well, to increase performance. However, the slower speeds you experience if you choose not to certainly aren't a game breaker. It could be that from the developers point of view, it's simply easier to just choose one route and stick with it, especially when you're dealing with more complicated games such as MGS4.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 1:55PM Vidikron said
Wiizer seems confused about the how 360 installs work.
Wiizer, the installs are larger on the 360 because it copies the entire game to the hard drive. After that you just have to have the disc in the drive to prove you own the games. The benefits are that the 360 doesn't sound like a leaf blower while playing games (the drive doesn't spin) and faster loads in many games.
When the PS3 does an install, optional or required, it only copies a portion of the game to the drive.... presumably files that the game will load most often. That's why the PS3's installs are smaller.
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Wiizer, the installs are larger on the 360 because it copies the entire game to the hard drive. After that you just have to have the disc in the drive to prove you own the games. The benefits are that the 360 doesn't sound like a leaf blower while playing games (the drive doesn't spin) and faster loads in many games.
When the PS3 does an install, optional or required, it only copies a portion of the game to the drive.... presumably files that the game will load most often. That's why the PS3's installs are smaller.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 2:00PM R Planteer said
I really have no quarrel with you vid. Im not saying that it cant be avoided, but it IS the PS3's fault that there is anything to avoid in the first place.
Wizzer is the one here with an IQ compared roughly to the common housefly that lands on a completely white surface and stays there even though someone is swinging a flyswatter.
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Wizzer is the one here with an IQ compared roughly to the common housefly that lands on a completely white surface and stays there even though someone is swinging a flyswatter.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 2:02PM ACLerok212 said
Also keep in mind that one advantage of a BD is they don't have to compress files such as audio files that are normally compressed to fit onto a DVD. The performance difference may be negligable, but you could have a title that is on both systems, but the files will be bigger on the PS3's BD simply because they're uncompressed. So with that in mind it's not that there's a huge hurdle with differences in speed, it might just be that the files for the PS3 are simply larger than files for the same game on the 360.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 2:24PM zero2dash said
@ Evan_ARRRR
True you can swap the 360 HD by pressing a button and popping it off, but if you want to install your own HD hacked to work with the 360 (like I'll be doing with the $50 WD 120gig I bought the other day), then yes you do have to take it apart (the HD casing at least).
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True you can swap the 360 HD by pressing a button and popping it off, but if you want to install your own HD hacked to work with the 360 (like I'll be doing with the $50 WD 120gig I bought the other day), then yes you do have to take it apart (the HD casing at least).
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 2:25PM Wiizer said
@ Vidikron
I was actually saying the same thing that whatshisface is saying. That's why my last post is so confusing.
So, the point above is EXACTLY what I'm saying. So, FFXIII is made for the PS3, right? But, it's being optimized for the 360.
You can't apply the same theories to the 360 that you apply to the PS3. If you did, then MS's DVD's are really shitty at storage capacity.
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I was actually saying the same thing that whatshisface is saying. That's why my last post is so confusing.
So, the point above is EXACTLY what I'm saying. So, FFXIII is made for the PS3, right? But, it's being optimized for the 360.
You can't apply the same theories to the 360 that you apply to the PS3. If you did, then MS's DVD's are really shitty at storage capacity.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 5:50PM JayVe said
Compressing game assets on a disc is a GOOD THING. Why? Compressed files take less bandwidth to read, meaning you can read more of them off of the disc in the same amount of time. Modest compression of 2x, increases the apparent read time, by only having to read half as much data off of the disc. Once you get into moderate range of 10x compression for audio, video, and texture assets, significant bandwidth savings are apparent.
The more files are compressed, the less time it takes to read them off of the disc. On-the-fly texture decompression has been around since the Dreamcast, and many GPUs receive textures already compressed.
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The more files are compressed, the less time it takes to read them off of the disc. On-the-fly texture decompression has been around since the Dreamcast, and many GPUs receive textures already compressed.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 6:08PM ACLerok212 said
Good to know JayVe. I'm just curious then... What would be the advantages of uncompressed files? In other words, why don't PS3 developers compress their game files like they do to the Xbox equivalents of their games if the advantages are so great?
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Posted: Aug 26th 2009 6:12PM ACLerok212 said
I can understand the benefits of increased read speed, but if read speed isn't an issue, (especially when considering the files can be saved to the HDD like these developers are doing) isn't it always better to use an original file as it was created as opposed to it's compressed versions which, as I was under the impression, can detract quality?
Just curious.
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Just curious.
Posted: Aug 26th 2009 6:19PM ACLerok212 said
Wiizer, can we have an informative discussion on the topic without throwing insults around? Is it necessary? It sounds like you could learn a little something from him anyways.
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