EVE Online's largest player-run bank freezes accounts due to massive deficit
Stick with us, because this could get confusing: EVE Online has a long and storied history of in-game corruption, chock-full of enough political and social drama to make Ron Moore's head spin. The latest -- and actually, ongoing since June -- problem comes in the form of financial woes. On August 26, EBANK -- EVE Online's largest player-run financial entity -- revealed it currently has a (roughly) 1.2 trillion InterStellar Kredits (ISK) deficit and would freeze all player and organization accounts that were investing with the bank.
As with other MMOs, EVE Online's economy is completely player-driven. Users can adopt various play styles which affect the world's economic machine, allowing players to create and topple empires within the fictional world of New Eden. Where EVE Online differs is how users have expanded the tools given to them by developer CCP Games. Using the game's developer-provided API to create tools that can monitor various pieces of data, players have developed their own financial organizations, complete with standards and rules, like real world banks.
Sadly, EVE Online's largest player-operated bank mimicked real world financial institutions too closely.
In June, former EBANK CEO "Ricdic" embezzled over 200 billion ISK from the bank and later sold it in real life, triggering the complete destruction of trust built by the organization. While safeguards were in place to halt any corporate malfeasance, EBANK was rocked by the embezzlement and over 380 billion in defaulted loans on top of the corruption have pulled the organization deeper into the red.
According to EBANK's newly appointed Chairman Ray McCormack the bank has been poorly managed; so much so that it took bank administrators weeks to discover how deep the financial hole was. The decision to freeze accounts means players will not be allowed to withdraw funds, and accounts will no longer accrue interest. While 1.2 trillion ISK in losses was enough to rock EVE Online's economy, McCormack says further losses may be not accounted for, "Such as operational losses, additional theft and reporting errors."

The official EBANK losses breakdown, or "Where did all the ISK go?"
As for EBANK's future, the organization also plans to freeze all bank staff salaries and consolidate its various ISK-generating ventures -- which our sister site Massively states are on a massive downswing throughout EVE Online. In hopes to recover player trust, EBANK aims to be more transparent in the future starting with publicly naming individuals and organizations behind defaulted loans that contributed to the 1.2 trillion ISK debacle.
No time frame was revealed for when the bank will resume normal operation, which cannot be comforting for legitimate EBANK customers. According to McCormack, withdrawals will be allowed once the bank achieves "a maintainable equity status of 90% (1.8t currently)." However, if the maintainable equity drops below 80% the bank will freeze operations again -- which is possible considering the bank claims to be losing approximately 12 billion ISK a month.
And all we wanted to do was shoot some stuff in space ...
[Via Ars Technica]
As with other MMOs, EVE Online's economy is completely player-driven. Users can adopt various play styles which affect the world's economic machine, allowing players to create and topple empires within the fictional world of New Eden. Where EVE Online differs is how users have expanded the tools given to them by developer CCP Games. Using the game's developer-provided API to create tools that can monitor various pieces of data, players have developed their own financial organizations, complete with standards and rules, like real world banks.
Sadly, EVE Online's largest player-operated bank mimicked real world financial institutions too closely.
In June, former EBANK CEO "Ricdic" embezzled over 200 billion ISK from the bank and later sold it in real life, triggering the complete destruction of trust built by the organization. While safeguards were in place to halt any corporate malfeasance, EBANK was rocked by the embezzlement and over 380 billion in defaulted loans on top of the corruption have pulled the organization deeper into the red.
According to EBANK's newly appointed Chairman Ray McCormack the bank has been poorly managed; so much so that it took bank administrators weeks to discover how deep the financial hole was. The decision to freeze accounts means players will not be allowed to withdraw funds, and accounts will no longer accrue interest. While 1.2 trillion ISK in losses was enough to rock EVE Online's economy, McCormack says further losses may be not accounted for, "Such as operational losses, additional theft and reporting errors."

The official EBANK losses breakdown, or "Where did all the ISK go?"
As for EBANK's future, the organization also plans to freeze all bank staff salaries and consolidate its various ISK-generating ventures -- which our sister site Massively states are on a massive downswing throughout EVE Online. In hopes to recover player trust, EBANK aims to be more transparent in the future starting with publicly naming individuals and organizations behind defaulted loans that contributed to the 1.2 trillion ISK debacle.
No time frame was revealed for when the bank will resume normal operation, which cannot be comforting for legitimate EBANK customers. According to McCormack, withdrawals will be allowed once the bank achieves "a maintainable equity status of 90% (1.8t currently)." However, if the maintainable equity drops below 80% the bank will freeze operations again -- which is possible considering the bank claims to be losing approximately 12 billion ISK a month.
And all we wanted to do was shoot some stuff in space ...
[Via Ars Technica]







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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
SpyderTaco (PSN: Ar4chNova89) @ Aug 31st 2009 6:21PM
****ing Bernie Madoff. Srsly.
FAnchax @ Aug 31st 2009 7:00PM
ttlly
jynxycat @ Aug 31st 2009 6:23PM
The fact that the game had an ACTUAL player economy, with a banking system, is pretty incredible.
Sucks that it got shut down :|
coil780 @ Aug 31st 2009 6:38PM
EVE's still alive and well. The bank is... well, I think "struggling" is the word.
The freeze was initiated not by CCP (developers of EVE), but by the bank's directors - for the same reasons that a real bank would freeze its assets. EBANK is too far in the hole to make good on its investments, so it is forced to stop paying out *anything* (withdrawals, interest earnings, employee salaries, etc) in an attempt to stabilize and rebuild its funds.
So the player-driven economy of EVE is still in full effect. It just may be in the middle of a galactic financial meltdown.
EVE never ceases to amaze me.
BigD145 @ Aug 31st 2009 6:51PM
Too little regulation.
tmacairjordan87 @ Aug 31st 2009 6:24PM
This game absolutely fascinates me every time I read about it (specially now!), but I know if I were to play it it would piss me off to no end.
tmacairjordan87 @ Aug 31st 2009 6:26PM
Also, who would join a bank run by a guy who's name sounds like "Rick Dick"?
THE WICKER MAN (BWF) (GT: Dalek Prime) @ Aug 31st 2009 6:36PM
I agree with you. It seems like the political and economic drama would be awesome. I am just not going to take up another mmo. Picked up WOW in February and it bores me to tears sometimes. I hate grinding, but it gives me something to do in-between classes. Speaking of which...
Nathan-DTS [Anti-Planeteer - Power of Anti-ness] @ Aug 31st 2009 6:55PM
Agreed. It way things are run sound amazing, but if you were to play EVE and you had put money in to that bank, you'd be pissed.
The Baron @ Aug 31st 2009 6:25PM
It's insane, the scope of what can be done in EVE. Sadly, I just don't find any of it fun to play.
phobic99 @ Aug 31st 2009 6:50PM
Same here. I'm always amazed at how deep the game sounds but I've literally tried and failed to play this game multiple times since it was first released.
Preston @ Aug 31st 2009 6:26PM
HA HA! /Nelson
RogueJedi86 @ Aug 31st 2009 8:33PM
Related:
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o265/RogueJedi86/1242301633787.png
risk @ Sep 1st 2009 7:51PM
i lol'd
Latin_Trident @ Aug 31st 2009 6:41PM
That is pretty amazing!
"This online video game, consisting of hundreds of thousands of players who control every aspect of the game universe, just suffered an enormous economic calamity due to player-controlled bankers engaging in Fractional Reserve Banking. When players got wind of the fraudulent practice, it prompted a bank run. Minus central banking, Fractional Reserve Banking can’t even survive in a video game!"
In other words, END THE FED!!!
SuiXide @ Aug 31st 2009 7:32PM
You said it.
JeezWhiz87 @ Sep 1st 2009 6:38AM
Hither twice! Keynesian Economics is even ruining MMOs... wtf.
SSJPabs @ Aug 31st 2009 6:51PM
Interesting. The best part is, these are tech savvy people. The actual real-life identities will be known and I will eat my hat if someone doesn't go after them in the real world in some way for revenge.
Sebastien @ Aug 31st 2009 6:53PM
People still put money in virtual banks? After the Second Life bank debacle people should know better.
Phillip @ Aug 31st 2009 6:58PM
"As with other MMOs, EVE Online's economy is completely player-driven."
I thought the whole player-driven economy was one of the things that made EVE unique? The Massively article you link to even states:
"Beyond its scale, what distinguishes EVE Online from other games is that it has a player-driven virtual economy, the backbone of the game."
Perhaps you meant "unlike"?
Anthony M. @ Aug 31st 2009 7:09PM
Star Wars Galaxies had a player driven economy as well. It might still, but after the combat upgrade I think they lost 98% of their player base (me included.)
Nathan-DTS [Anti-Planeteer - Power of Anti-ness] @ Aug 31st 2009 7:00PM
I remember reading about the guy that controlled the group that owned most the map in this game disbanded the group in a coup with a rival group to let them capture the area.
Mr. Manly ESC Mcbeefington Ferguson The Second @ Aug 31st 2009 7:01PM
No,my character commited sucide when he heard he lost all his virtual money and his Space ship :(
Josh @ Aug 31st 2009 7:03PM
This game always sounds so fucking amazing.
Mr. Manly ESC Mcbeefington Ferguson The Second @ Aug 31st 2009 7:08PM
Always for the wrong reasons.
Seriously if this is generating so much E-drama why the creators I don't know absolve the debts of the virtual bank,give all the players thier virtual money back and close the bank or just takes over it so this BS never happens again?
Josh @ Aug 31st 2009 7:14PM
You just made the game sound even more awesome.
InfoMofo @ Aug 31st 2009 7:13PM
EVE Online's largest player? That's impressive in itself.
Coldbrand @ Aug 31st 2009 7:06PM
So if they're freezing everyone's assets why not wage a major war against them and take everyone's money while it's up for grabs?
Anthony M. @ Aug 31st 2009 7:12PM
For some reason reading this made me envision the "bank" being a super giant space ship that only (a corporation?) with trillions of (Kredits?) could produce, ala an imperial destroyer of sorts. Vs the mob of players with their personal ships.
Would be pretty epic.
Aaron @ Aug 31st 2009 8:58PM
If they had war declared on them, wouldn't they just spend the trillion credits on ships that could kick your ass?
Then, even if you kill them, you're just destroying your only chance at getting your credits back.....
Platinum_Skeet @ Sep 1st 2009 5:41PM
But the battle would be epic!
ssuk @ Aug 31st 2009 7:19PM
EVE Online's new expansion: Recession.
CH3BURASHKA @ Aug 31st 2009 7:38PM
EVE Online is a fucking crazy place. They had that infiltration and eradication incident less than a year ago, and now this?
Special Agent Steve @ Aug 31st 2009 8:25PM
It's odd how video games are coming out with banking system. Supposedly Assasin's Creed II is supposed to have a semi-in depth banking system where you can invest money.
relaxeder @ Aug 31st 2009 8:39PM
I'm really ambivalent about EVE Online; on one hand it looks like one of the most beautiful MMOs I've ever seen. The ship designs and the nebulas and all the new visuals and effects of the updated graphics engine look phenomenal, and part of me wants to jump in and check it out just to ogle and stare.
On the other hand when I read reviews and articles a lot of it just sounds boring and convoluted as hell, to the point where I get the impression the only people who truly enjoy it are the sorts of folks whose idea of fun is compiling meticulously detailed spreadsheets of their weekly diets.
The sheer depth of the ingame economy fascinates me though, even if I can't understand most of it. Maybe I'll pick it up when the Ambulation expansion is released, cause the walking in stations feature seems like something that I could sink my teeth into as a new player.
Urvith @ Sep 1st 2009 1:52AM
Thats about right. The game itself has a incredable amount of depth. And its very nicely done from a graphical standpoint. But thats where it falls apart. The solo part of the game is incredably wimpy. The fleet based stuff is ok I guess but youll be feeling the shoddy dropdown menu based control scheme very quickly.
Quality assurance practicly doesent exist. CCP once Deleted my Boot.ini file because of a programer mistake on a patch. The straw that broke the camels back was a bug that wouldnt let me past the flash screen.
EVE could be a awesome game if CCP would get busy on the awfull UI and invest some thought into the solo aspects of the game. Really the stuff holding it back is insanely simple to fix.
RudyHuxtable @ Aug 31st 2009 8:41PM
The more rope you give players to hang themselves with, the taller they build the scaffold.
I've always wanted to play this game, but shit like this is precisely why I don't.
Rocks @ Aug 31st 2009 9:08PM
while EVE online isn't for everyone, it's quite an amazing game...
I played for a year, and always have the urge to dive into it again, but I can't justify the cost with the amount of time spent being idle, or doing nothing... of course this is partially my fault, as I enjoy just traveling through space, talking with friends and exploring...
the game is an depth as you want it to be really... don't let these giant corps and drama deter you from a very engaging space sim... vice versa, if that's your thing, go for it.
ChomskyKnows @ Aug 31st 2009 9:32PM
hold on a minute. this guy took fake space bucks from the space bank and according to the article "sold it in real life" wait...what?..sold it to who? how much did he pay?
follow the [fake] money...
mocax @ Aug 31st 2009 9:51PM
they're allowed to sell game currency for real cash?
Yuccadude @ Aug 31st 2009 10:27PM
No, see gold farming.
ScottG13 @ Aug 31st 2009 10:49PM
Freaking awesome. I don't play Eve but I do like reading tidbits about its drama.
Dr. Ew @ Aug 31st 2009 10:59PM
Dear Xav de Matos,
I'm glad to see you corrected "chalk full" to read "chock full" but I find it hilarious that you deleted my post correcting you.
I felt I was rather kind in my correction.
Perhaps I should have followed my instincts and fully lambasted you for being a paid writer who uses idioms he/she clearly doesn't fully comprehend.
I'm sure you'll delete this one, too :P
abelpc @ Aug 31st 2009 11:45PM
I keep all my ISK in a jar behind my ship's control console.
JeezWhiz87 @ Sep 1st 2009 6:43AM
What I want to know is who really thinks it's fun to come home from work, log in to an MMO, and work at a virtual bank for the rest of the night.... I would just work at a bank, or actually PLAY the game. I guess I just don't get it.
uncaringbear @ Sep 1st 2009 10:13AM
That's what happens when you indiscriminately give out loans to people who can't really afford to buy those star cruisers.
Trance Addix @ Sep 1st 2009 11:15AM
LOL!
Caboose @ Sep 1st 2009 1:20PM
from one of their members
i loled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRk5YBjXsxE
sRc @ Sep 1st 2009 2:22PM
this isn't a virtual bank holding real money. its a virtual bank in a game holding in-game virtual money
sRc @ Sep 1st 2009 2:23PM
well, so much for the reply button. that was @ Sebastein