Overheard@PAX: The wrath of a Halo fan

by Richard Mitchell on Sep 5th 2009 6:00AM

Meet Connor. Connor is a young Halo fan who attended the Halo 3: ODST panel hosted at PAX (more on that later). The panel contained many Bungie luminaries, including Joe Staten, Brian Jarrard, Curtis Creamer, Marty O'Donnell and several others. During the Q&A session at the end of the panel, fan after fan approached the microphone, asking about everything from O'Donnell's musical inspiration to when we'll get to see some gameplay from Halo: Reach.

Connor, faced with the developers of one of the most popular gaming franchises around, had only one question. "Why would you even take the battle rifle out of the game?" (the battle rifle is MIA in the ODST campaign, lest you haven't heard). Listen to Connor's question (and Bungie's response) below.

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Tags: bungie, halo, halo-3, halo-3-odst, Microsoft, pax, pax-2009, Xbox-360

Reader Comments (117)

I never really used the battle rife so I won't miss it much. It is pretty strange that they took it out though. It sounds like a good reason though. I'd rather have new weapons and better textures than the battle rifle.

The br is the main weapon in multiplayer for any decent player.

Really Hallow? You realize that that was a complete bullshit response on the part of Bungie, right? It is entirely possible to have pretty textures, new weapons, and the battle rifle. I'm pretty sure that tossing in one more gun wouldn't break the game.

Yeah it may be a BS response but I won't miss it much. I like to be different and play with the other weapons available.

Sorry for the double post but like they said it will still be in multiplayer just not single player.

I hated the BR. Good riddance. Hopefully this $60 expansion pack actually has some new weapons.

I'd rather have some variety than to plow through the entire campaign with the same gun.

"The br is the main weapon in multiplayer for any decent player."

Correction. It's the go-to weapon in multiplayer for any player that wants to protect their rank.

"Decent players" can use any combination of weapons. It's just that the BR is so powerful.

I play Social to get away from the BR-only mentality. The game is simply more fun when you are trying to splatter someone in a Warthog, rather than trying to 4-shot them with your BR game after game after game.

The BR balanced Halo 2 into a playable game. The way they nerfed it in Halo 3 is what ruined that game.

he has bad posture.

Maybe that's why he has the hump...

Oh dear, Marmot.. I couldn't help but imagine you putting on sunglasses and the CSI Miami opening theme playing when i read that.

See what you've done to me, Joystiq?! :(

taking the br out of halo is a serious no no. Thats all i use in multiplayer.

Too much 'gaming position'. Sitting down, bent forward, elbows on knees, controller in hand.

maybe he just has a short leg?

Wow. You guys are getting upvoted somehow for making fun of a kid.

Real cool.

And does he looks old enough to play an M-rated game?

Lost the battle rifle, but won the war... rifle?

A war rifle would be fucking sick.

wait, theres a freaking war rifle now!?

Confirmed!

that's the funniest thing I've read all week.

(and Ive read some good jokes this week)

Agreed. I just laughed so hard I snorted for the first time in ever Jerry... in ever.

That's great. He could have asked them about pretty much anything and he chose that.

I was there and most of the other questions were from people grovelling and sucking up to Bungie. This kid was pure win and had us all laughing

Haha Richard laughing out loud. OK what was Bungie's response? Something about memory constraints and wanting 2 new weapons in the game? I couldn't make out what they said.

I can't wait till the ODST truck comes to Virginia so I can try out the game. :)

I couldn't understand most of what they said either. I need some sort of transcript or something.

basically to include the battle rifle they would have to "reserve" more memory in-game whether you use it or not they ultimately took it out so they could replace that game asset with a new weapon (this isnt an issue of disc space so please dont bring up blu-ray). they could have just as easily included more weapons but then that would limit their memory budget.

simplified version: so less memory on weapons, more memory on environment, and from what i've seen the environmental textures do seems much better compared to the original h3 campaign. (also there was a problem with halo3 and odst being developed on older development kits which had around 64mb less memory which is actually pretty significant in consoles)

Shouldn't this kid have been in school?

He took the Bungie guys to school... so i think he gets a pass.

On a friday evening ?

Bailers, I downvoted your stupid face, I'll have you know.

The battle rifle's the one where you can zoom in and you fire 3 shots at a time, right?

Ooh, my friend's not gonna be pleased with that. He's a self-proclaimed god with that weapon.

It'll still be available in multiplayer so he can still "be a god" with it online against others.

"He's a self-proclaimed god with that weapon."

Don't worry. In my experience, people who use the BR exclusively are ALL "self-proclaimed" gods. Just as long as they have a BR handy. ;)

You can find them all over YouTube, calling people "n00bs" for not out-BR'ing someone in 4 shots, or for failing to no-scope someone from across the map.

Audio link is a red x...doesn't format correctly in all browsers.

Amateur hour here.

Yeah, most of the internet doesn't support Netscape 3 anymore.

Upgrade your shit.

I can't get it to work on IE8 or Google Chrome. I'll upgrade... your shit... guy.

Take that.

Why the fuck are you using IE8 and Google Chrome? Use Mozilla Firefox like the rest of the world.

Hey jrinswand, little tidbit for ya: not everyone likes Firefox. I personally can't stand using it. Don't really have a reason, it just grates on me. Quit being a jackass.

You can't stand something for reasons unknown? Quit whining. You are arguing about an internet browser for crying out loud!

What browser are you rocking? I'll pass it on to support. Meantime, I've added a direct download.

works fine for my ps3's browser. your sh*t must be REALLY outdated!

kinda funny that the embeded audio works just fine on my google chrome. i think you just need more computer knowledge.

It's not working on my work computer either.

I'm not whining, because I don't care if I can hear some kid crying about a battle rifle. I'm just saying... NONE of my 'shit' seems to be upgraded. Poohead.

I'm no Halo hater, in fact I probably defend it more often than not but if I hear one more one more nerd brag about how awesome he with the battle rifle or refer to it as the BR I'm going to rip my ears off.

Does that mean that you have voices in your head for everyone who comments?

If so, give me James Earl Jones, please.

I personally have always wanted to see someone tear their ears off. So I'll do it right now: I rock with the BR. Whether it is true or not is irrelevant. Now please setup a camera and rip of yours ears. :)

And remember, kids: Pics or it didn't happen.

Agreed, black. Plus, why would everyone want the new game to be more like tge old game? Isn't it BETTER to have new things in a new game?

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