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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:08PM jjm said

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i think the character models in the screens look good but the environment is a bit bland
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:11PM Jrinswand said

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I don't know, the Source engine still looks pretty good to me and it's hard to argue with nice framerates.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:15PM (Unverified) said

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i remember when the source engine was new, I was like "Holy shit! everything looks amazing", now it's blah.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:19PM JXCGunrunna said

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they do upgrade it. every game they release they upgrade it some.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:22PM FredMC said

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hmmm I was fairly indifferent about L4D2 since I still play L4D #1 so much, but I am starting to be converted.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 8:27PM Amun said

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I'm still miffed about L4D being pushed aside after only 6 months, and no amount of electric guitars or katanas (OMGZ SAMURI SWORD!!!!1) will bring me around.


Maybe if they hadn't ditched the original characters... =/
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:23PM StormEagle said

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Sounds to me like this is going to be much much more than just the first game with different characters and a new coat of paint.

Do want.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:45PM Istari Spartan said

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but but but...

isn't that most game... ahh forget it.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:27PM ArkAngel said

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I don't know why everyone is going off abotu having a new Left 4 Dead "so soon" You don't hear people complain about a new Call of Duty ever year.. a new Guitar Hero, or a new EA Sports game every year... at least not in the Protest/petition way...
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:39PM JXCGunrunna said

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Expectations is really the main difference. Valve said L4D would be a platform like rock band. If ubisoft came out with sports games every year and they were the same caliber as EA's games but released DLC once a year in the form of mini games and roster updates, EA would get bitched out for the shit they do.

GH and CoD do get plenty of complaints. Im a huge Call of Duty fan and i think its bad that Activision has to put out a call of duty game every year. People will support the games they like tho and that is why you will never see W@W outsell call of duty 4. or Call of duty 7 outsell MW2.

I never see people bitching that they had to buy the songs they want for Rockband as DLC but you always see people bitch about GH:decent band from 10 to 20 years ago.

We expect Valve to support their products with DLC for years to come like they always have.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:40PM Freakydemon said

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Call of Duty is made by 2 companies, and the only good COD's were those from Infinity Ward so you can actually remove the Treyarch games from my point of view :p
And the constant stream of Guitar Hero games is just ridiculous and waste of money =D Say what you want, they're making a sequel to soon...
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:44PM JXCGunrunna said

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i totally agree with the treyarch statement. have not bought a treyarch game since spiderman 2 and dont play on it unless they make something some what original(nazi zombie for 50/60 dollars is fucking dumb so dont mention it)
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 5:30PM Crimsic said

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Even though you clearly stated not to mention it...I am, just because it's within subject to Ark's post. To mix things up, I would welcome a Zombie departure from Treyarch for mulltiple reasons.

1. It's one thing they did extremely well and continued to improve since the release of the game with Verruct, Shi No Numa, and Der Riese.

2. I won't stand for just another WWII shooter.

3. Hell, it's combining the two most shootable things in video games...(yes, I know it was done before) in a cooperative, heavy weaponary, solidly controlled gamemode.

If they could just find away to not record glitcher's scores, then getting to the leaderboard could be a real possibility. I've made it to Wave 37 legitimately...and I'm ranked 66,000th or something...without glitchers I'd be ranked a lot higher...

But then again, I'm a Nazi Zombie fanatic, so I'll admit that. I just think they made it a very enjoyable cooperative experience.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:28PM Look At This Suit said

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Is it me, or did they improve the graphics? That first screen shot looks amazing.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:47PM InTheCatBoxAgain said

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The graphics do look a lot better than L4D.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:49PM ummhello said

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yeah, I was wondering if the photos were from the 360 version or the PC version of the game....
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:30PM Jrinswand said

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Yeah. The Source Engine still looks pretty good. Not every game can be Crysis, nor would I want them to.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:31PM Greqo said

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Can't wait to try this. Hacking things down like the Post-Apocalyptic lumberjack I am..
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:32PM TheDarkWayne said

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they really have upgraded it. Although there are still some problems like grainy walls and gun handles, Left 4 Dead 2 is leaps and bounds better than Half Life 2
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:32PM damnreds said

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the adrenaline shot and grenade launcher were announced/explained a while back.

http://communityl4d.com/commentary/l4d-leagues-and-tournaments/competitive-l4d-2.html
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:33PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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4 player co-op + zombie holocaust = super WIN
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:33PM The Wicker Man said

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Wow, Left 4 Dead 1 really seems like a beta to this. Can't wait!
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:35PM TheDarkWayne said

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Wiw, the jockey, as horrendously ugly as it looks, will be incredibly useful in versus mode. God damn i cant wait to run through the campaign with only the magnum dirty harry style, i hope there's an achievement for that
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:53PM Istari Spartan said

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Achievements I hope there are in L4D2

Super head hunter: 10,000 headshots
Freight train: hitting all 4 survivers in one charge
Whose side are you on?: helping up a surviver while playing versus as an infected
easy does it: completing all campains on easy

feel free to add your own guys.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 5:41PM TheDarkWayne said

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obviously another kill 34,697 or whatever number it is now achievement, as much as i will hate it.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:35PM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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But is it a Hanzo sword?
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:36PM Jrinswand said

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By the way Spyder, I have a PS3 and a 360 in addition to my gaming PC. I still wouldn't play a Valve game on them, though, because of the never-ending support that Valve offers to their PC gamers.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:39PM Uncle Jesse said

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At first I was kind of like, 'whoa, L4D2 is coming out that soon?!'.
Yeah, now i wish it was out already. Not soon enough!

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I've never had so much fun playing a game with friends as I have with L4D. Plain and simple.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:08PM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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Agreed. I had a friend over once who told me to leave the other two teammates to die at the end of Blood Harvest. We didn't finish that time, but the next game he got incapped and the three of us decided to leave him there while he shouted into the mic "You fucking cowards!!"

LoLz like that you just can't get anywhere else.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:12PM Uncle Jesse said

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I like having someone in another room hearing you scream things like:

"Just go! Get to the chopper! Leave me!"
"I'm out of ammo! Shit! I'm throwing a pipe bomb!"
"Is everyone ready? Okay, get into position, I'm pushing the radio now..."
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:26PM TheDarkWayne said

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L4D is one of those awesome games were you have those great memorable moments, with stuff like a carnival, katana, and frying pans i think this one will have even more
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:55PM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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Or moments where the Dark fucking Wayne runs out to get killed by the crashing plane in Dead Air.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 5:40PM TheDarkWayne said

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that was awesome haha
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:50PM TwEE said

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So will all the old special infected be coming back? Will I be able to play as 8 different infected in versus?
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:58PM Istari Spartan said

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But it won 't be the same without Francis.

Francis hates everything!
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:14PM Uncle Jesse said

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"I hate sequels."

- Francis
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 5:58PM Istari Spartan said

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"I hate vietnam vets"...

..."oh, sorry, Bill."
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:59PM mahouneko said

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That portrait looks a lot like Mr. T in the lower right of that sample image.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 3:59PM The Bodyguard said

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They had me at Katana......I wasn't going to buy it so soon.....But....but....I'm weak..........................
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:13PM (Unverified) said

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The engine has been vastly improved since Left 4 Dead 1, try using the model viewer with some of the Left 4 Dead characters if you have the PC version and you can see how much effort goes into making the game as good looking as it is, the boomer's have jiggling fat for crying out loud (Although you don't really see it with all the zombies and shooting going on).

Obviously the source engine graphically falters in comparison to the CryEngine2 but just think how much has changed since it's first iteration.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:34PM ViciousBastard said

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yea, it does faces really well but every thing els could use some work
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:33PM (Unverified) said

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I don't think any other engine is as flexible or adaptable as source. Think about how long it's been in use, then compare the screens above to Half Life 2's. The difference is huge. Does anyone know of any other engine that has aged so well or lasted so long? CryEngine 2 is bad ass, but how many games use it? 2 or 3 I think and it's already soon to be replaced.

The Source Engine is as much a legacy as the Half Life series and of coarse Valve is not finished yet.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 5:11PM (Unverified) said

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Unreal 2 Engine is also still alive and kicking, since 2002.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 7:41PM aughscreennames said

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Its been around for so long because Valve wont let it die. Theyre the only major developer who uses it and their new games dont look nearly as good as other games using newer engines. It seems to be highly upgradeable in terms of textures and certain kinds of light rendering but it has major shortcomings that make it really long in the tooth.

The reason Valve games look as good as they do is because of the great texture artists, not the Source Engine.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:34PM usualyksint said

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Katana? - do I need the original 49 achievements?
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:37PM Bubbameister33 said

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"Haaave meercy."

-Uncle Jesse
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 4:43PM awholeian said

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I wouldn't blame the engine as much as the level designers and artists. The engine is capable of shaders, but you don't seem them baked into everything. Kind of like how every game made with the Unreal 3 engine doesn't look like Gears of War. It comes down to the artists.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 5:08PM (Unverified) said

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I've been killing zombies for months with a Katana. In Killing floor.
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 5:23PM Alex R said

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I haven't read the article yet, but that black guy looks a bit like a fat version of Benjamin Franklin from Prison Break.

http://www.prisonbreakbuff.com/files/2008/03/prison-break-c_note_110.jpg
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Posted: Sep 8th 2009 5:48PM (Unverified) said

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Or maybe Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince?

http://xd8.xanga.com/a91d9b46d5d31154227145/z115312235.jpg
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