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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:01PM (Unverified) said

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Lol is anyone on xbox 360 actually gonna waste points on this dlc when the new game is just 1-2 months away lol
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:05PM (Unverified) said

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I'm sure a lot of people will. They spend money on clothes for their avatar so why not?

I'm getting LFD2 but not the DLC for 1. Waste of money in my opinion.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:09PM Kyogissun said

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...What's wrong with wanting to play the original and the sequel?

You two just sound like a bunch of arrogant douchebags. 'LULZ, ppl spending money on something we think is stupid must be stupid.'

Well okay, just alexdaman44, not so much the second guy. But really dude, comparing DLC to the avatar store? It's like comparing cake and pie, one's actually superior and the other is just eye candy.

...Cake is superior in case you are wondering. Fuck pie.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:36PM aristokrat said

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Woah woah woah. I will not stand idly by while you slander pie. If anything, cake is the eye candy, since the inside of cake of cake is just cake, whereas the inside of a pie could be anything...it could even be cake!
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:53PM Kyogissun said

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Hence the problem with pie, it could have ANYTHING in it.

With Cake, it's hard to hide a cruel surprise. Because if it's something that should NOT be in a cake, you'll be able to tell. With pie, you could either have sweet victory or crushing defeat beneath that flaky crust.

Pie is eye candy because it's a mystery. You should trust the delicious and moist goodness that is the cake.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:01PM (Unverified) said

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I just think if someone is still playing LFD1 on 360 they must be a dedicated fan of the game and are interested in purchasing (or boycotting) LFD2. So why spend more money on a game you are likely to put down for a long while in 2 months? I'm not slamming folks if they decide to buy it, I just don't don't see the value in it. Maybe I'm just cheap...

doughnuts > cake > pie
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:21PM Kyogissun said

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I suppose you have a point there, I can see the average gamer not even touching L4D1 after 2 launches...

But some people (Like... me and maybe 4 other people) actually still like the characters and design of L4D1. I think I'll end up going back to it strictly for nostalgic reasons. And because I like Bill, he's my favorite of the survivors.

I think it's gonna be hard for someone to fill the gap bill will leave as the cynical, witty old guy. Francis and Louis can easily be replaced and to some degree, so can Zoey...

But not Bill. Bill's about as unique as they get. You can't do bill in a game like this again.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:22PM Kyogissun said

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And no, you're not cheap. Those of us who buy the avatar clothes... Probably have a little too much free spending...

I know there's plenty of crap I got from the avatar store I don't wear, but I still like it. ^^;;

Just waiting for fall to kick in so I have an excuse to don my windbreakers and whatnot.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:36PM aristokrat said

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Bah, what with all the pie-bashing today? I submit that pies are not only the superior form of baked good, but also are much more capable weapons of humiliation. Thrown doughnuts are too small and dry, cake is only superficially messy. I want to be able to have my pie and throw it too!

If my previous mystery box logic didn't sway you, perhaps this will appeal to your food-based self defense inclincations.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 7:09PM (Unverified) said

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Cant we all just get along and HAVE SOME FUCKING CAKE????
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 7:09PM (Unverified) said

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oops I mean pie.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 7:24PM MrSpaceCowboy said

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Would eye candy pie be called 'Pie Candy'?

Pies are the best. You can have meat pies, but you can't put icing on a meat cake or have a jam filled meat doughnut (otherwise known as a Meatnut).
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 7:29PM Freddie Mercury said

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I propose that cookies are the ultimate baked goods
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 8:26PM CobraClutch said

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I like turtles.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 9:00PM XeroAF said

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THE CAKE IS A LIE!

(the pie is not)

((how had nobody went there yet?))
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 8:02PM (Unverified) said

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Cake pie? CAKE PIE!?!??!!! Where where gimme gimme.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:02PM TheDarkWayne said

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I really wish all the L4D maps and characters were available for a free download if you have L4D saved data on your xbox or pc, that seems like the perfect answer. Either way i think i like Bill and Francis better than Coach and Ellis so ill buy the original DLC regardless
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:43PM einhanderkiller said

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I remember reading something about Microsoft having a policy that save games can only be used by the game the save came from. So you can't let a Left 4 Dead save interact with Left 4 Dead 2.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:51PM beano311 said

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You can unlock stuff in Banjo Kazooie N&B by finding the hidden eggs in the original Banjo Kazooie on XBLA, so I'm pretty sure L4D2 could read L4D1's save data.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:54PM damnreds said

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i learned my lesson after buying the orange box and left4dead for my new xbox: always buy the computer versions of valve's games
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:55PM (Unverified) said

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Mass Effect 2 is supposed to use data from your Mass Effect 1 save
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:15PM Iroquois said

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I think you just revealed their big secret.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:24PM Kyogissun said

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No, their big secret is that fucking unrevealed game mode...

Damn it valve, you have me excited for something original to the gameplay, just make it fun is all I ask and not unpleasant like the survivor mode. D:

And I only call it unpleasant cause I suck at it. >_>;;
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 7:29PM einhanderkiller said

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Wait... I think I may be remembering incorrectly. It may have been Xbox 1 saves can't interact with Xbox 360 games.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2009 1:23AM whylekat said

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Xbox1 Saves?? Dude get with the times!
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:08PM Arsenic13 said

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I knew this would become an issue if they supported both games. I hope a few months in after L4D2 releases they just stick with patches and such for L4D1 and not put us buyers in a compromised position like Joystiq just described.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:12PM Joeybeast said

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Look Valve,

I'm buying L4D2
Don't double dip.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 10:53PM Special Agent Steve said

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Who cares if they support an older game.

Either A: You don't buy it.
Or, B: You buy it and enjoy it (hopefully).

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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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.....Yeah....

I am still buying L4D2 because I want it and I am not cheap also think of those people who buy EA's sequels every year.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:23PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not buying it.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:27PM (Unverified) said

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yeah cuz sports games are exactly the same a FPS games.....
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:33PM WarrenEBB said

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"Buy Left 4 Dead 2 and potentially miss out on the original game's DLC"
I just don't get it.
Why is this the scenario? How does this make any sense? Like, because you'll be having so much fun with the sequel you'll completely forget about the original's ongoing support? wha?

How hard is it to put the L4D1 disc back in? I swear ta mike, i own all these other games, and i don't have a problem putting their discs back in if i want to check out some new DLC for them.

the whole premise behind people angry that they're going to have too many options is based on pessimistic (and sometimes strange) assumptions.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:38PM WarrenEBB said

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similarly, how is this news? Valve said there would be ongoing support. The whole issue is that support wasn't delivered as fast as team fortress2, so people decided to freak out.

Isn't the real title for this story "Gamers who randomly decided Valve wouldn't keep promises now have actual facts to work with - decide to reverse their bizarre assumptions"
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:33PM Killer Orca said

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Put me down for not getting any L4D DLC, I can hold off a month for L4D2, even longer since I plan to get it used.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:45PM Kaminaaa said

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Woah woah woah, hang on a second, with have to PAY for the original DLC now?
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 5:54PM sicsided said

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mmmmm, free DLC on PC.

So nice, it rhymes!
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:43PM HighFiveJesus said

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I thought the previous released DLC was free for 360 people too???

Or was it never free and suckers paid for it anyway (instead of getting the pc version, guaranteed to be free)
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:45PM sicsided said

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The Survival mode and map was free, but the Crash Course will cost $7 on 360 while being free on PC.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 11:08PM HighFiveJesus said

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Oh nice, they'll probably charge for the next stuff too. But people can't wait to buy it!
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:06PM Istari Spartan said

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Francis hates predicaments.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:09PM Istari Spartan said

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Aristokrat, this cake-pie you speak of, where can it be found?!

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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:12PM Istari Spartan said

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that was meant to be a reply to (a reply in) the first comment
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:24PM Kyogissun said

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I feel your pain on the misplaced comments.

Joystiq, implement a comment editor plox. D;
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:12PM HighFiveJesus said

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does anyone who constantly play l4d and is anticipating this new free content really NEED to run out and buy the sequel for 60 or 50?

Can't just wait a little bit and enjoy the first just a bit more? Especially if they already paid 60 or 50 the first time. I paid 25 on pc and i still don't feel like i got what i paid for at once, there needs to be a few more releases to get me to be happy.
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 6:16PM Iroquois said

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Or even release the HL2 Chapters...dare I say it...too quickly??!!?
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 7:16PM QuePasa87 said

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"This would of course put us in a compromising position: Buy Left 4 Dead 2 and potentially miss out on the original game's DLC, or download the first game's DLC and maybe permanently delay a purchase of the sequel?"

I'm getting both. :)
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 7:35PM Freddie Mercury said

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this
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 7:16PM ViaDolorosa said

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i like gameinformers response to the boycott

"The 'controversy' surrounding the announcement of Left 4 Dead 2 is pathetic. Have you played the full game yet? Do you know how the team is improving the mechanics? Do you know all about the weapons and enemies being added? No, you don't. Furthermore, without that information, you are wholly unqualified to make any judgments relating to the game's scope, quality and appropriate pricing. Here's a little tip: Complaining about these things with no firsthand experience doesn't make you a gaming activist. It makes you a whiny, entitled brat."
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 8:00PM (Unverified) said

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Well put. haha
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Posted: Sep 11th 2009 9:23PM Discotheque said

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Except...L4D are half-assed games (by Valve standards) whilst Half Life 2 and Episode 2 (lets...forget about episode 1 shall we) were actual games with quality in them. So L4D2 coming out within a year does make sense. It probably took them a few weeks to make. Also lackluster DLC support too.

TF2 has had waaaaay better support. Which is lame, because Left 4 Dead needs it more seeing as it was a more expensive also-mp only game.
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