Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks pulling into retail station Dec. 7

In terms of what?

No, it doesn't matter. You're crazy.

I guess just in terms of what I'd like to play. Probably the fact that I haven't played a Zelda game since Ocarina before picking up Phantom Hourglass and not being really impressed with PH on top of that is probably making me feel all kinds of 'ewww' towards ST.

Honestly, I didn't even really like Ocarina. LttP is still tops in my books.

While LttP is second best in my book, saying that you "didn't really like Ocarina" forever removes all credibility you have towards commenting on past, present and future Zelda titles.


We're done here.

Ditto, So many games, so little time and even littler money.

Spirit Tracks is a pretty lame name though.

Double reply fail. I think I'll just stop here and step away from the comment system,.

It's Karma.

It's actually just general fail. It's the comment system's way of saying, "screw you, play more Zelda before saying it sucks."

Phantom Hourglass is arguably one of the worse Zelda games to date, please play Wind Waker before continuing with your unfortunate opinion.

O RLY!?! Phantom Hourglass is arguably worse than, say, Adventures of Link!?

Let's not make asinine remarks unless you have actually played all of Zelda titles.

I get that the repetitive gameplay at Ocean King's Temple killed the overall experience. But really, that was only a small (albeit annoying) fraction of the overall package. It certainly wasn't the worse.

Jimmijam, I have played every Zelda game barring the CD-i ones, and they don't count. Yes, Phantom Hourglass is arguably one of the worst Zelda games. As in, one can argue that it is one of the worst Zelda games. One of. There's a few duds in there. Phantom Hourglass is a pain in the ass because of the Temple of the Ocean King, although the rest of it is great. Zelda 2 is tough-as-nails, but very fun, as is the original Zelda.

Funny thing about opinions: everyone's got different ones. I'm one of those weirdos who liked Wind Waker the best out of any Zelda game, but I don't hate on everyone says Ocarina is the best.

I seriously do not freaking get why so many cry like babies over the ocean king temple. Are you people even gamers? Have you never even played a game where you had practice on something a few times to figure it out/develop the skills to get it right? You people must absolutely loathe like half of all game genres out there.

The ocean king's temple was a very well thought-out piece of gameplay, just because you're a whiny pussy doesn't change that fact.

It's not entirely unprecedented for Nintendo, though the last instance i can think of was Melee, which launched in December in America.

Won't sell insanely well, at least, not according to the standards of the real DS (and Wii) heavy hitters. 3-4 million, probably. Great sales, but not insane :)

The first one sold just over 4.5m (and rising) - but I suspect this one will beat it and sell 6m. Already got the first game giving it a free boost...

Are Zelda games as "evergreen" as games like Mario Kart or NSMB? I don't think it really needs it but did Phantom Hourglass see a long, steady sales record? I honestly forget.

I hear ya, but as much as that was painful, the final battle and watching the story unfold was awesome. Really, if you can muster up a pound of patience to get through that Temple, the rest of the game was truly fantastic.

I didn't mind having to re-do the temple over and over again (it had a sort of Metroid element to it, each time through with a new item yielded new secrets), but i absolutely loathe any kind of adventure game that gets set on a timer, part of the reason why i never committed to buying Majora's Mask.

So the timer was the killer for me in that, not having to do it multiple times.

Playing the final boss battle was pretty awesome. Like Jimmijam said, if you can dig deep and find some extra patience then it would definitely be worth it to try to finish it.

Same here. I seriously about once or twice a month sit there and contemplate restarting Spirit Tracks, but I can just never bring myself to do it :\ The stupid temple ultimately made me lose interest, even with the shortcuts.

I'm excited for Spirit Tracks, but not as excited as I would be if it were more in line with a traditional, topdown Zelda. I don't want to have to get around via train tracks or something. I at least hope you can jump out of the train and wander around, though. Heck, just remake A Link to the Past with the PH/ST engine!

"part of the reason why i never committed to buying Majora's Mask."


Ugh, figures that someone who hates that temple is exactly the kind of person who wouldn't buy MM, possibly the best Zelda game to date. Just... ugh.

u just suck at it
for the ending boss was to easy i even cried i finished it in 3 weeks

What is that? Like the first time you've ever typed the F word before?

No, that i've specifically strung "Fuck you, Nintendo" into a sentence.

Of course, it's not in the context of real rage, just of vague frustration. Everything else they'll reveal, except the one game everyone's after...

Probably save it for one of their upcoming events, like Kyoto CMEX or that London thing

see Mr. Kahn, you can't go saying it half assed like that. mean it or don't say it, don't devalue the word.

it's either - fuck you nintendo
or
damn, oh well, motomansan says a delayed game is...

Crystal Bearers comes out 1 day after Christmas. Unless you live in Japan

Eh, I'm not Christian, I just use the end of the year as an excuse to give people presents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrcpufOa2ic
LINKS AWAKENING LAST BOSS kills the shit out of this Last enemy.
That is right i will not call it a boss because it is too easy and simplistic to be a boss.

Go watch them side by side, how many hearts did the one person lost when he played 1 fucking heart from a fucking boss what the fuck is this degradation of skill required for this game.

When will game developers stop caring so much about graphics and actually improve the difficulties in games, and stop worrying about dlc. And actually make changes in the game play in itself.

We have games that are exactly the same, that are the best, that tout the best graphics , and the greatest quality of dlc, when we should focus on difficulty and gameplay. When 2 generations ago, games were completely different from each other. The graphics were good for its time.
Metal gear solid anyone. Super Smash brothers. Banjo kazooie. Ocarina of time. Glover. Resident evil.

Face it our games are in a rut, you are paying 60 dollars for 2 versions of the same game, then 20 dollars for a 4 hour expansion of the same game, that ooh you also get two weapons previously unheard of. shotgun and a tec-9. Then you pay 15 dollars for maps that you can use those weapons on, for multiplayer, and not to mention 50 dollars per year to play games online.

We need some creativity, the world needs some creativity, because without it we are all the same.

I both disagree and agree with you there Mr. This Game Blows. I took New Super Mario Bros back to the shops and got a refund, thought Metroid Prime Hunters wasn't up to the standard of the console games, and that Phantom Hourglass wasn't as good as Wind Waker (although I still thought it was very good).
HOWEVER, this seems to be because Nintendo focused on the console versions of their games. Galaxy, Twilight Princess and Corruption were all great games (although Twilight Princess was arguably overrated). Instead, Nintendo has supported the DS with great "non big 3" games - Elite Beat Agents, Advance Wars, Pokemon (Platinum - Diamond sucked IMO) and the 2 Mario & Luigi games are some examples of great work Nintendo has done on their new systems. Yes, I wonder how Phantom Hourglass could have been as a more Ocarina-ish game, but instead Nintendo chose to shake up the formula a bit - and it worked quite well IMO.
What I think you should never do though is bring up Hitler. It was the worst mistake I ever made. Your actions have consequenses. Long story short: I was once arguing with a friend who's grandfather was killed in a concentration camp (I didn't know at the time) and we got into such a big fight because he was so offended he stabbed me. I left town and never came back, and never spoke to any of my friends again... Bringing Hitler into fanboy arguments devalues the death of millions and you should never use it in a some shit flinging contest about new vs classic... So yeah, basically, I got in one little fight and my momma got scared; she said "You're moving in with your aunty and uncle in Bel-Air." I whisted for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and had dice in the mirror. If anything i could say that this cab was rare, but i thought nah, forget it
yo home to Bel-Air! I pulled up to a house about 7:00 or 8:00 I yelled to the cabby yo homes, smell you later. Looked at my kingdom I was finally there
to sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

SMG2 is tentatively set for early next year. I'm betting March or April, myself, but then again i was betting on October for Spirit Tracks...

Didn't Miyamoto say next Holiday? Plus, there is that rumor that Other M is coming out in March (If you're not familiar with the rumor, in the trailer at the end when it says "2010", if you look at the top, Samus' missile count and Health reads "3 / 25")

"gimmicky controls"? lol, you tool.