Platinum Games not developing PS3 version of Bayonetta

I really hope this doesn't get "Orange Box'd" or "Ghostbuster'd".

I was really looking forward to this game but sadly, my days of buying a watered-down port are over.
But I'll still rent it to see if the game's any good.
Thanks for the advice, Platinum.

Yes. Sega has made a game or two. Platinum games? They probably just don't have the resources to create a PS3 development team. Sega obviously does. Maybe after this game they will have a bit more cash flow.

who cares if this game is not coming to ps3, Its going to tank anyway with the sea of aaa titles this winter 360 can have lord knows they need it!

Huh? EA owns Valve, and Valve already took responsibility for that...

EA doesn't own Valve, what the hell are you smoking?

WINTERfang is a cry baby? I think we already know that

It took Valve 1.5 years before they took responsibility for the PS3 version of the Orange Box being substandard.

WINterfang why were you IMing Ichigo?

Is aizen making his move!!!

They get more sales by bringing it to PS3. And Ghostbusters wasn't that inferior from what I heard, only a slight graphics downgrade, nothing noteworthy

Well its good that they are handing it over to sega because they dont have to waste there time and money to make a port that will sell less copies, now i have both a 360 and a PS 3 and the only games i play on the ps 3 are exclusives other then that i watch blu rays but if a game comes out on both systems I usually gravitate towards the 360 version because most of the games are better made and the controllers (oh and i guess xbox live)

Spyder, for once I actually agree with you. I've had a PS3 and a 360 for a couple of years now and I haven't played my 360 in at least a year and a half. I can't even remember the last game that I played on it. Though, to be fair, I hardly play my PS3 either and when I do, it's mostly just God of War.

NOTHING WRONG WITH GHOSTBUSTERS ON PS3!!!

Orange Box on the other hand does have its fuckups in Team Fortress 2 on PS3....but its still pretty damn good...

well If I had a working 360 I'd still play all the multiplat games on a PS3 because it can handle it without breaking.

@SpyderTaco:
Problem with Valve is that they're very used to programming on a PC platform where RAM and memory are not terribly huge problems. When it comes to console platforms though, Valve is happier with the 360 platform mostly because of their familiarity with the PC architecture and (what seems like) their heavy reliance on Windows development tools. The PS3 is essentially a paradigm shift that throws everything they understand out the window, which is usually the normal response for most developers.

What the PS3 is good at is crunching numbers and performing algorithms assigned to its various SPUs, which is essentially the same situation everyone faced with the PS2's Emotion Engine:
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2000/04/ps2vspc.ars

The difference between the Emotion chip and the Cell SPUs is that the Emotion chip doesn't handle multi-threaded programs whereas the Cell SPUs were designed with parallel processing in mind.

The other thing that developers forget or neglect to mention is their choice of libraries when going multi-platform. I mean, when you're going multi-platform, it's logical to go with libraries that are broadly supported. But once you get into the habit of developing with a specific set of tools and those tools don't work on another platform, that's usually when people start tearing their hair out. It's sort of like watching people who are used to paying for everything with their American Express credit card who find out that their AmEx card isn't accepted by certain vendors or restaurants and they don't have a Visa or MasterCard on them.

Hey, why'd I get downvoted? For saying I don't play video games as much as I used to?

They should have just not said anything at all, damn. Everyone just assumes the worst.

I hear ya. I used to be interested in this game but theres no way I'm buying a shitty port.

I don't remember that being the case but I guess not.

thats what I was thinking too....coulda sworn I read that somewhere....

bah...fuck it...

It seems odd that such a game would be developed for the 360 primarily. A previous article said that games made in Japan have a hard time selling a lot of copies outside of Japan. And this game seems to be too, ahem, unorthodox in style to appeal to the tastes of many North American 360 gamers.

Perhaps if the main character was a hulking male protagonist with a brooding personality about him, it would be an easier sell.

Charlie six, you meen this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm88Blmlwjk&feature=related

Yeah, and the guy from Darksiders.

@Charlie_Six
DMC4 sold around 2.4million copies worldwide, less than 400k of those coming from Japan. The days of developers being able to cater solely to Japan are over, and if you want to do well in the West, it's a good idea to focus on the 360.

Actually, this was the first that I had heard it was even coming to the PS3 at all.

But that is just me......

No, I actually thought it was Bayonetta. But yeah, those two games do look eerily similar. I guess Devil May Cry and all of it's ripoffs just aren't my thing. I know that may sound weird coming from a dude who just said that one of the only games he's been playing for the past month or so is God of War, but to me there is a definite distinction to be made between God of War and Devil May Cry. The former is all about brutal hand-to-hand combat and the latter has much more shooting and emo Japanese goth-glam stylings.

See, I feel quite differently about DMC vs GoW. GoW is pretty elementary by comparison; heavy attack, light attack, and there's most of the game. It's brutal, but relatively dumb. Combat in DMC is quantifiably deeper and gives you so many more options.

And to be fair, guns aren't that big of a deal. Their effectiveness is a lot lower in DMC4, but even in DMC3, they really just function as an extension of melee. It's definitely not a shooting game.

@Winterfang:
Who the hell are you and what have you done with the Winterfang that we all know and despise/love?

Wow. You're angry. Seems to me that you're the kinda guy that doesn't need to be playing games like MadWorld.

Yeah, because it's totally Platinum Games fault.

Oh wait, it isn't, it's their publisher that's a bitch.

@jampirow

uh, how is it segas fault that platinum doesnt want to do it?

ummm like I said the first few years I could understand that....but WTF man?!??!? PLENTY of Devs outside of first & Second party ones have made GREAT games on the PS3....thats just bullshit

Some companies may not have the time and resources to develop on both platforms at the same time, and Platinum Games certainly isn't a large company. I think people should wait and see how it turns out before crying fowl. I don't think Platinum games would allow Sega to create a terrible port, and like-wise I don't think Sega would want to create a terrible port on a potential hit on both the PS3, and 360.

As for if the PS3 came out first, and had the lead? It would probably most certainly be the main platform developed on since that's where most of the money would be. Not to mention instead of self-entitled PS3 fanboys whining about how the world is unfair to the triple, you have self-entitled Xbox 360 fanboys whining about how the world is unfair to the xbawks.

When are you actually online Chris? lol, I added you a few months ago but have never seen you yet.

I don't think coding for multiple cores is necessarily that easy.

I'm in engineering too of sorts, and dealing with multiple different softwares to do essentially the same f*cking thing, even that's a b1tch (at least for me it is). It's embarrassing too b/c people somehow think I magically walk on water and can crank stuff out within 2-3 days. But to do it to the level of detail that I feel is adequate requires at least a week. I can't even begin to imagine the nightmare of creating each of these software tool packages.

When people point out Guerilla, Konami, Naughty Dog, Media Molecule, Sucker Punch, etc, with the old "these guys can do it, why the hell can't everybody else" line, I'm assuming that the top gun coders are all working there. Plus they are backed by alot of support and money from Sony.

Everybody else has to essentially fend for themselves. I've met a few of these folks...and they get worked really hard from what i can tell. Plus they're not the smartest apples off the tree either. So it sucks having to be working on stuff like "Bee Movie: the Game" at a 5th tier company whereas your contemporaries are working on cool stuff like uncharted 2, and still watching your projects do horribly at retail. Understandably, there's alot of anger and resentment there (I can sense that as well). These guys HATE the ps3 passionately b/c it's apparently difficult to code for.

Bottom line is, getting the dream job you want, and being great at it, doesn't always happen. Working in the game industry is a tough business, and perhaps not everybody getting into it knew this.

when am I online on what the PS3 or the 360?? lol....on the PS3 all the time....360...MAYBE once a week...

@kentuckyfried:
Well, the thing is that most developers start off their programming career on the PC. As such, they become accustomed to the convenience that the PC provides. What they don't realize is that advances in PC hardware are essentially going in the same direction as what Sony has been doing with the PlayStation consoles for the past decade and a half.

I know that I've been posting this Ars Technica link all over the place, but I feel that the Ars Technica article covers this exact issue very well:
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2000/04/ps2vspc.ars

I'm actually kind of curious about whether the folks at Platinum Games forgot the lessons they learned with the the PS2 because the PS3's Cell SPUs fundamentally operate in a similar manner to the Emotion chip, the only difference being their ability to process parallel and asynchronous code/data across many more chips rather than the one chip.