No More Heroes 2 is last installment on Wii, next game on new Nintendo platform
by Alexander Sliwinski 
{ Sep 22nd 2009 at 9:15AM } 
Clarifying an earlier statement that No More Heroes 2 would be the franchises' last installment on the Wii, creator Suda 51 told 1UP that the upcoming sequel is "the last iteration for this current platform." Suda believes there will be a "Wii 2," and he'd like to do another "game in the series on the next Nintendo platform."
It appears we're now just waiting on Nintendo to unveil the Wii HD (or Wii 2). Then we can ask Mr. 51 about when we can expect an HD-ified No More Heroes.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Cody @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:19AM
Wii HD? I think I'm fine with playing crappy party games on a regular Wii
Cody @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:30AM
Actually I'm not fine with it at all. I'm a avid gamer who wants to play games in HD, but the problem is that there isn't anything worth playing for gamers such as myself to begin with on the Wii. HD is not something the Wii needs. Some advice for Suda, if you make the next No More Heroes on the PS3 or 360 it might be a game that people actually play.
EI8HT @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:41AM
wasnt there a time when we were just happy with 16 pixels on a game, now look at us
2073600pixels in time wont be enough to enjoy true "gaming experience"
bm @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:42AM
gamers such as myself hahahahahaha
D-5 @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:42AM
He's not on Joystiq reading your comments.
draco @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:46AM
I don't remember playing any 16 pixel games :P.
Even pong had nearly 80,000 pixels.
Anti-Villian @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:47AM
Wii -
Already out:
Animal Crossing: City Folk
ANNO: Create a New World
Another Code: R, Gateway of Memory (Europe-only)
Battalion Wars 2
Blast Works: Build, Trade, Destroy
Boom Blox
Boom Blox Bash Party
Captain Rainbow (Japan-only)
Cursed Mountain
De Blob
Deadly Creatures
Disaster: Day of Crisis (Europe-only)
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
Elebits
Excite Truck
Excitebots: Trick Racing
Fatal Frame IV: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse (Japan-only, for now)
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Geometry Wars: Galaxies
Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility
Kizuna (Japan-only)
Klonoa
Little King's Story
MadWorld
Mario Kart Wii
Mario Strikers Charged
Mercury Meltdown Revolution
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Mushroom Men: The Spore Wars
No More Heroes
Opoona
Overlord: Dark Legend
Punch-Out!!
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles
Rune Factory Frontier
Rogue Trooper (Europe-only, for now)
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Sonic and the Black Knight
Sonic Unleashed
Spectrobes: Origins
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Paper Mario
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Smash Up!
Tenchu: Shadow Assassins
The Conduit
The House of the Dead: OVERKILL
The Munchables
Trauma Center: New Blood
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Wario Land: Shake It!
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Sports Resort
Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure
-57 games
Coming out:
A Boy and His Blob
Arc Rise Fantasia
Cosmic Walker
Dead Space: Extraction
Dragon Ball: Revenge of King Piccolo
Dragon Quest X
Dynamic Slash
Epic Mickey
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
Fragile: Farewell Ruins of the Moon
Gladiator A.D.
Line Attack Heroes
Metroid: Other M
Monado: Beginning of the World
Monster Hunter Tri
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle
Pikmin 3
QJ
Red Steel 2
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles
Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love
Samurai Warriors 3
Shiren the Wanderer
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
Sin & Punishment 2
Spyborgs
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Tales of Graces
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars
The Calling
The Grinder
The Kore Gang
Tower of Shadows
Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga
War Budokai
Zelda Wii (temp title)
-37 games
Wiiware -
Already out:
Bit. Trip Beat
Bit. Trip Core
Bomberman Blast
Bubble Bobble Plus!
Contra ReBirth
Cubello
Defend Your Castle
Dr. Mario Online Rx
Evasive Space
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Darklord
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King
Gradius ReBirth
Gyrostarr
LostWinds
MaBoSHi: The Three Shape Arcade
Mega Man 9
NyxQuest: Kindred Spirits
Onslaught
Orbient
Overturn: Mecha Wars
Pole's Big Adventure (Japan-only)
Rotohex
Space Invaders Get Even
Star Soldier R
Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People
Swords & Soldiers
Tetris Party
Toki Tori
-29 games
Coming out:
Bit. Trip Void
Castlevania The Adventure ReBirth
Cave Story
La Mulana
Last Flight
LostWinds 2
Night Game
Robocalypse: Beaver Defense
-8 games
Ports -
Already out:
Castle of Shikigami III
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3
Guilty Gear XX Λ Core Plus
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Mini Ninjas
New Play Control! - Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
New Play Control! - Pikmin
New Play Control! - Mario Power Tennis
Okami
Phantom Brave: We Meet Again
Resident Evil Archives: Resident Evil
Resident Evil 4: Wii edition
Rygar: The Battle of Argus
Sam & Max: Season One
Samba de Amigo
The Godfather: Blackhand Edition
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10
Ultimate Shooting Collection
-19 games
Coming out:
New Play Control! - Pikmin 2
New Play Control! - Chibi-Robo!
Resident Evil Archives: Resident Evil Zero
Sam & Max: Season 2
-4 games
Total: Wii has or will have 154 good games.
Just a little extra -
Hinted/kind of confirmed/lack of info/cancelled/extra -
F-Zero Wii (possibly leak)
Kid Icarus Wii (possibly leak)
Kirby Wii (development hell?)
Mario Wii (in mention)
Mirror's Edge (cancelled)
Project H.A.M.M.E.R. (confirmed on hold/possibly cancelled)
Sadness (development hell, may not have been in development in the first place)
Swords of Legendia (development hell?)
-8 games
No games indeed, and nothing at all to look forward to.
Troy Powers (PSN: TroyPowers) @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:52AM
LIST WAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRSSSS!!!
FIGHT!!!
Rob S. @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:59AM
Long Post is Loooooooooong!
samfish [is sad there is no Gene in Tats v Cap =( ] @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:06AM
Dude seriously...you listed Rygar. You could take a dump in a DVD case and get more enjoyment and satisfaction from that than you would from playing a stinker like Rygar.
I'm one of the biggest Nintendo fanboys on this site and even I recognize that list needs culling. It'd be like a Sony fanboy throwing Haze or Lair on a games list.
GiggMan @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:19AM
@Anti... Did you actually think people were going to read that?
Orion @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:20AM
Thought process of crazy fanboy:
"I know! I'll make a list, that'll prove I'm not crazy! Yes!
What should I put on the list... yes that, that... oh that's a good one. Hmm, it's not long enough. Well we'll just put some crappy games in the mix, and then fill a quarter of the list with games that people wish would come out for it, but never did. Yes, yes! Include the games people wanted to play on Wii but never were able to!
I'm finally finished with my life's work and it all makes perfect sense! I'm brilliant!"
Vcize @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:27AM
EI8HT, we weren't playing those 16 bit games on 60" 1080p TVs. 16 bits looks a lot better on a 19" screen than it does on 60.
Not to mention, your argument is ridiculous.
There was once a time where people were fine crapping in a hole in the ground outside their house. There was once a time where we were fine going to the library and reading encylopedias to get information about stuff. There was once a time where we were happy to get 6 TV channels.
Newslfash, shit gets better in time, and the old stuff becomes unacceptable.
Spartan [Planeteer | Power of Sunshine & Lollipops] @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:40AM
Anti, how did you manage to keep you lips off Nintendo's nuts long enough to say all that?!
Markusdragon @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:59AM
Also, list fails for lack of MySims. Which was f'in awesome.
That and posting a massive long list of entirely subjective opinions when 'If you can't find any great games, then you're not looking hard enough' would have sufficed.
CrabBattle @ Sep 22nd 2009 1:17PM
Wow, all 3 sonic games. I think im gonna puke.
Anti-Villian @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:43PM
I didn't make the list, Nor do I fully agree with it, I would never have put Wii sports resort on it. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, their is going to be games on that list you don't like. The creator of the list said that the sonic games copped a lot of flak however thought it still deserved to be included since he found them worth a play through.
I understand Cody's point of view, I am disapointed that I have nothing on my wii to compare to the sabotuer or justcause2, but to say there is nothing is pretty lazy, lazier then copy and pasting a list of recommended games I happened to have sitting in the background in a text document, a mere one click away.
Long list was pretty long.
Geist @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:20AM
And people were all excited that it'd be on a big console like PS3 or 360. Silly people, hopes are for kids!
Chris D.(PSN: Aggie_CEO | XBL:The Aggie CEO | Steam: Aggie_CEO @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:25AM
who says it wont be?? I still don't see where he is saying it will NEVER be on anything but a Nintendo console
KaBob799 @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:37AM
So does ps3 slim count as a "big" console?
Roto13 @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:44AM
"who says it wont be?? I still don't see where he is saying it will NEVER be on anything but a Nintendo console"
Suda says it won't be. Shortly after that, he mentions that he wants to keep No More Heroes on Nintendo's consoles and he wants to develop other IPs for Sony and Microsoft's motion controllers.
Chris D.(PSN: Aggie_CEO | XBL:The Aggie CEO | Steam: Aggie_CEO @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:21AM
well....I suspect that we will start to hear something about the next Nintendo console next year..Maybe as early as E3 but most certainly by TGS...as other have stated I just hope they include a REGULAR controller in the dev kit and release bundles so not ALL games have to use the motion controls...
guttertalk @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:11AM
Chris, the current controller doesn't require that games use motion controls. I'm playing Muramasa right now with no motion controls whatsoever.
There's no way they'd add a traditional gamepad in addition to the remote and nunchuk, thus increasing the price.
I hope they stay with the split controller. After a couple of hours with the 360 controller, my hands hurt (especially my thumbs). I've played the Wii for 6 hours and not felt any soreness.
Vcize @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:31AM
Guttertalk, but when you use the wiimote as a traditional controller without the motion controls it's pretty much the equivalent of an original NES controller, which was already outdated 15 years ago and is well beyond out-dated now.
Also, you must have the most oddly shaped hands in history if playing on a 360 controller makes your hands hurt and holding a sideways wii-mote for 6 hours doesn't. In fact, I'm not convinced you're human.
Chris D.(PSN: Aggie_CEO | XBL:The Aggie CEO | Steam: Aggie_CEO @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:37AM
I know there are games that DONT use the Motion controls...but that takes it down to just like what, 4 buttons?? THAT SUCKS!! this isnt 1985...hell the Wii "Classic" controller is nice enough to where they should make games that run on that out the box...assuming Nintendo would make the damn thing wireless I would like it more
mr nimblewick @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:49AM
I love games that just require the 4 buttons (2 is even better!). When developers have to make tough decisions about controls, they tend to streamline the game.
guttertalk @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:40AM
@vcize: I am a middle aged gamer, so it's not so much that I have oddly shaped hands as I'm older. :) The analog sticks, especially the right one, on the 360 controller force me to crook my thumbs a bit, and they get sore.
@chris: Assuming that you have you have the Wii remote and nunchuk, you have 6 buttons. It's not 8 (or 10 if you count the < and > buttons on the 360).
But your complaint doesn't require a traditional controller but more buttons, and I think they could add 2 more buttons without a major redesign of the controllers. With more of a redesign, they could add more.
I love the nunchuk for its design, but it's button-limited. Nintendo could maybe add one button there. Maybe.
Ozzman_79 @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:45PM
I'm with Mr. nimblewick on this one. Controllers have waaaay too many buttons for my liking. 4 on the face, more shoulder triggers, analog sticks to push in.......too much. I'll take 2 or 4 buttons max anyday.
Chris D.(PSN: Aggie_CEO | XBL:The Aggie CEO | Steam: Aggie_CEO @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:49PM
Gutter....sure you have the Wiimote And the chuck its MORE buttons....but that would mean you are more than likely using motion controls at SOME point during the game...if not all the way thru the game....and thats blows
koehler83 @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:26AM
Well if Nintendo continues it's current business plan of being 6 years late, it means an HD console as early as 2011 and no later than 2012.
Maulok @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:27AM
No More Heroes in crisp 1080p would blow my mind.
WiNG [XBL&Steam: WiNGSPANTT] from lifeinagame.com @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:28AM
I don't personally think there will be any new consoles till 2012, at the earliest.
Mr. Fister @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:30AM
Suda51 also said in that interview that No More Heroes 2 will conclude Travis Touchdown's story, which means he probably won't be the main character in future NMH titles.
If that's the case, I'm hoping Travis gets a really epic ending. He's a great character and rightly deserves one.
acefondu @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:30AM
Hmmm...something tells me he knows something about Wii 2. Game developers get early news of new systems all the time so game development can start and systems don't launch with 1 game made by first party developers. Wii 2 may be closer than we think.
samfish [is sad there is no Gene in Tats v Cap =( ] @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:59AM
It's possible. Between this and the President of Square this weekend saying he expects a Wii successor in 2011, it's kind of starting to sound like Nintendo has began filling in some companies on what their plans are for the Wii's followup.
Mr Khan @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:56AM
to be fair (though it is my belief and hope that Wii successor comes in 2011, too), Wada was just speaking to investors, investors who want to see more Wii games, which Square Enix has kinda boxed themselves out of with investment in their FFXIII engine. He said that to hope that, relatively soon, they could use that engine to make games for the leading platform
D-5 @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:43AM
I am!
Bubbameister33 @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:44AM
Wii Tuu: The Search for more Money.
Troy Powers (PSN: TroyPowers) @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:54AM
I think they'll decide to go with Japanese and call it Wii Nii.
Rob S. @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:55AM
Isn't that Sony and Microsoft too, maybe it can be a buddy movie.
Troy Powers (PSN: TroyPowers) @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:49AM
What if I'm looking for my special 3? One to cook, one to clean, and one to shut the fuck up while I'm playing my video games.
samfish [is sad there is no Gene in Tats v Cap =( ] @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:02AM
It's a sad commentary on the video game "press" that Suda had to clarify those remarks. If you go back and look at his original statement, he never actually said anything about NMH going to PS3 or 360.
That was just the usual morons in the fanboy press assuming that, why, he MUST have meant NMH3 would be on PS360! Because that's how dreams come true!
Vcize @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:35AM
You're just looking to pick a fight here. The guy had previously said that the game was originally planned for the 360, not the Wii. He actually said "Originally, I'd wanted to make this game for Xbox 360, actually."
I could see your point if this were out of the blue, but when the guy says he wanted the game on the 360, then says "we're not making another one on the Wii", it's not really that much of a leap to think he might be talking about the next one being on the 360.
Vcize @ Sep 22nd 2009 10:38AM
Also, not only did he say it was originally planned for the 360, but he actually said it was better suited for the 360.
So again, not really a gigantic leap there. When the guy says the franchise is better suited for the 360, then says they're not making another one for the Wii, there's a pretty clear implication there.
samfish [is sad there is no Gene in Tats v Cap =( ] @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:25AM
No one is trying to pick a fight. The guy said NOTHING about what the future plans for the game were. N O T H I N G.
It was the gaming press that assumed that he meant it was going to be on PS360. That's just flat out irresponsible journalism and, quite clearly in this case, was fueled more by a desire to see the series on one of the HD consoles. It's a friggin' joke. Imagine if Capcom came out and said Resident Evil 6 wouldn't be on a PS360. Do you think the gaming press would assume that means Wii? After all, they do "have good reason" to believe it, since RE4 and RE:UC both sold well over a million.
No. That wouldn't happen in a million years!
Picking a fight? Hardly. I'm just tired of gaming journalism's lax standards, be it on blogs or sites like IGN. It's a total joke and this instance is yet another unfortunate example of why.
...not even the Washington press corps is THAT irresponsible!
Mr Khan @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:07PM
The sad part is that what samfish said is true. The gaming media saw an opportunity to generate lots of page-hits by giving PS360 fanboys hope that they might get to play a good game without having to use the accursed Wii.
(not saying PS360 fanboys aren't quite happy without Wii, just that when they see a good game on Wii, they complain that it's potential is wasted)
Vcize @ Sep 22nd 2009 1:46PM
Oh bullshit. Utter, despicable, bullshit.
Yes, if the RE5 creator came out and said he thought the game was better suited for the Wii and that the next RE wouldn't be on the PS3/360, you can bet your ass that people would assume he meant the next one was coming to the Wii.
It's not some big leap, it's not fanboy provocation, it's fucking logic. And sure, it didn't work out that way this time, but when someone comes out and says the game was originally going to be on the 360, and that the game is better suited for the 360, and then says that the next game isn't going to be on the Wii, it's pretty logical to infer that he might be talking about the 360. It's the next logical step.
Seriously, you're being 10x worse than the "provacative gaming media" in this instance. I don't deny that they often do stuff like this to stir things up, but in this instance it actually made sense.
samfish [is sad there is no Gene in Tats v Cap =( ] @ Sep 22nd 2009 2:22PM
No.
And here's where YOU are making an ill informed leap:
When Suda said NMH was originally going to be on 360, he wasn't saying that in a, "Oh, we WANTED to make it on 360, but just couldn't" kind of way.
He was saying it in a, "At first we were making it on 360, just because, but when we saw the Wii controller, we thought it would be a better fit" kind of way.
He *NEVER* said it was better suited for the 360. I have no idea where you got that from. The whole reason it ended up on the Wii is because he eventually felt it was better suited.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/29510/Time-For-Heroes-began-life-on-360-says-developer
You seem to be under the impression that he WANTED (as in, was FORCED to make it on the Wii instead) the game on the 360. But if so, that is ignorance on your part, most likely because ONCE AGAIN what he said was distorted.
I mean, Dead Rising was originally planned for the PS2. Do you think Dead Rising will ever be on the PS2?
Games start off on other consoles and get moved all the time. So what?
Saying "it isn't much of a leap" is bullshit. Especially if you're a journalist. You shouldn't be making ANY leaps in the first place.
I REALLY don't understand how you think I could possibly be being "worse" when I'm simply not jumping to conclusions the way everyone else did from a statement he made that implied anything BUT what he actually said...
For the record, by the way, since I'm suspect you're getting ready to pull the 'fanboy' card on me:
I hated No More Heroes. I don't give a damn what console it ends up on because, at best, I'm only going to rent it, unless NMH2 is a 200% improvement over the original in every way. It has a terrible combat system, the horrible overworld and the stupid concept of working sidejobs for cash was completely game breaking, IMO.
Cody @ Sep 22nd 2009 3:40PM
Vcize the closet 'Nole fan should be quiet and sit down now.
You hate on all that is Wii so your posts hold no merritt here.
gordo @ Sep 22nd 2009 4:17PM
Samfish should replace Reggie