Rumor: Leaked minutes from Sega/Sony meeting reveal PS2 and Dreamcast on PSN, much more
by Griffin McElroy 
{ Sep 22nd 2009 at 11:20AM } 
The biggest, potential news from this document concerns SCEA's general plans for the future. One excerpt from the minutes lists a Spring 2010 launch window for the PlayStation Motion Controller -- specifically March for Japan. Another noteworthy section mentions a "PS2 emulator for PS3," claiming that "SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN." Later in the document, the possibility of Dreamcast titles on PSN is also suggested, in addition to a "Japanese Import" section.
This leak has an air of credibility due to its appearance on Sega's public FTP media resource center -- however, it's entirely possible that it could have been uploaded to said FTP site by a hack-savvy Dreamcast enthusiast. Maintain your skepticism as you browse the full document.
Update: The document has been removed from Sega's FTP site, but we've got further analysis right here!
[Via NeoGAF]
Alleged official meeting notes:
SCEA Meeting Aug 5th Notes
Aug 6 2009 – DRAFT FOR COMMENTS
Objectives of Meeting
- Dyer agreed to regular quarterly meetings with SOA
- SCEA reiterated plans to sell 13 million PS3s this year
- Big announcement back half of year they can't talk about (potentially price cut of PS3 to reach hardware goals)
- SCEA commented on indexing between PS3 and 360 SKUs, should be around 2:1 to garner most favorable treatment.
- Spring 2010 launch (March in JP)
- No bundle/pricing details yet, should come Sept 1
- Plan on selling 4-5MM units WW
- SCEA agreed to provide a list of Sega IP that would work well with the motion controller, Virtua Tennis was an example
- Motion Controller support allows easy way to differentiate PS3 SKU
- Other differentiation opportunities include PSP/PS3 interoperability – think of features that would make users want to buy both PS3 and PSP SKUs.
- Michael Foster, product evaluator, said AP felt barely RPG. Initial level too challenging for players. "Mass Effect felt more RPG."
- Review notes sent to John Merlino a few weeks prior. After meeting Gerald mentioned AP is a high priority for his team.
- Sell in of PS3 SKU – SCEA noted that other movie titles on PS3 had underperformed as well (inc. Transformers) this cycle.
- Dyer suggests contacting Susan at Walmart and asking what she wants in the pack to sell this SKU (movie tix etc)
- Other possibilities are Hybrid movie disc (BD 25 or 50 with Game and Movie on same disc).
- Collectors edition with Bayonetta Action Figure
- Novo recommended launching PSN demo around Xmas based off a Jan 5th Ship date with 2-3 week run out to launch.
- 3-4 weeks is usually ideal demo timing with fresh content every week leading up to launch (trailers, insider video about PG heritage, video blogs).
- HOME, Olympic destination would garner a lot of positive attention from SCEA
- Should be doing same with Bayonetta, Marvel etc. Easy to launch in all territories.
- HOME merchandizing opportunities (clothes etc).
- Open to DLC to differentiate PS3 SKU – not ratchet and clank but other characters
- maybe characters from Rare or Fable universes
- Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game).
- Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles.
- SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity.
- Another great HOME candidate
- AVP avatars
- Hybrid BD disc with movie
- Great candidate for HOME space – explore Tony Stark's lab etc.
- Should have one for Marvel in general.
- Could do bundle at GameStop with PSP 30-35K units on UMD, Go, or both.
- Could bundle with PSP as well.
- Opportunity for PS3/PSP interoperability (see Eidos Batman, Army of Two, Assassin's Creed for good examples).
- If we offer that SCEA would be really interested in having us at their booth next E3.
- SCEA would like a look at the code soon.
- Could put out collectors edition with all old sonic games on one BD disc.
- "Best of Sonic" for around $99.
- SCEA would love PSN exclusive power ups/different game modes (like Castlevania's flip it over/backwards)
- SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc)
- For co Marketing money show PS3 controller on TV ads – similar to EA Madden Spots, NCAA, etc...
- Perfect opportunity for Motion Controller integration.
- If we provide a list of DC titles SCEA will let us know which ones they're interested in having exclusively.
- If we give them a long period of exclusivity they'll give us more marketing support.
- For SKU differentiation it's best to offer features that are slightly different from PS3 version.
- Titles that are coming up on PSP are Assassin's Creed II, GTA China Wars, Resident Evil, Little Big Planet – all massive franchises.
- SCEA has a specific PSP deck which they can send up with their hardware director for a chat.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
+SAM+ @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:22AM
Make it happen.
I am a machineee @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:52PM
Also make KH: Final Mix I + II happen in the Import download section :D
CzAr @ Sep 22nd 2009 1:12PM
Sega/Sony would be stupid to not make it happen.
They'd generate a ton of cash.
giantenemycrab @ Sep 22nd 2009 4:24PM
If Sony does this, I will go out that day and buy a PS3. Mark my words.
aaronaaron @ Sep 22nd 2009 4:50PM
WOAH WHAT?!
I was just looking at PSN games last night and thought "Man, how about a PS2 category?" Can't wait to see it happen!
I'd also like PSP games playable on the PS3, anyone agree with that?
eNrique @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:24AM
SONY'S BACK BABY!
Temidien @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:31AM
Huh. This is my problem with fanboys, they never think things through. To say the company you're cheering for is making a comeback is to imply that they are previously in the gutter, thus nullifying all previous trollage.
Tool.
RKN @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:49AM
I don't think he meant they were in the gutter previously, but that they will return to their more prosperous days of the PS1/PS2.
eNrique @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:50AM
Exactly RKN.
George @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:51AM
I really wish the editors would start cracking down on all these idiotic fanboys that have been polluting this site for a while now, most of them sony trolls. Joystiq has been almost un-readable lately.
Maverick Saturn (Igor) @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:51AM
Could be interpretted any way
Shattercross @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:53AM
You do realize George, that the article is up there and not down here. This is a comments section on a video game blog, not exactly what I call stimulating intellectual conversation.
Vidikron @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:59AM
Not to mention that this IS a Sony article.
Marius @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:33PM
Shut up George
This is Sony Land now, Jump out and play Beyond
-SDF
Frank @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:56PM
As well as a bunch of classic titles that we'll...have to buy again.
WOOHOO!
Chris D.(PSN: Aggie_CEO | XBL:The Aggie CEO | Steam: Aggie_CEO @ Sep 22nd 2009 1:05PM
George did you SERIOUSLY say MOST of the fanboys have be "Sony trolls" you are either blind, new here, OR a 360Fanboy....
Bronco-fan @ Sep 22nd 2009 3:27PM
Funny how all of the people who responded are said Sony fanboys that are stinking this place up. Thanks for proving my point.
Einlander0 @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:25AM
Odds are after this leak most of the deals could be called off. Leaks like this don't exactly instill confidence in managment. It also makes mos tof the other console owners cry foul.
If it does happen i want the psp to get the dreamcast games. It is button for button the same as the dreamcast controller
rells009 @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:33PM
Damn. I had not even realized that.
Would make the perfect platform for a Skies of Arcadia 2 even. If Sega makes that happen, a PSP is as good as mine. Let's not even get in a list of the wealth of quality DC titles to begin with.
Ian @ Sep 22nd 2009 9:31PM
Makes me wish people were more responsible, or consider the consequences, before they report leaks
dark_inchworm (stronger than never, ever before) @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:25AM
"Sonic Racing - Open to DLC to differentiate PS3 SKU – not ratchet and clank but other characters maybe characters from Rare or Fable universes"
Um... what?
Jawmuncher (PSN & XBL:Jawmuncher) @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:27AM
Yeah I don't know whats going on there.
Chris D.(PSN: Aggie_CEO | XBL:The Aggie CEO | Steam: Aggie_CEO @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:29AM
what indeed....
Donald @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:32AM
It may also refer to Greek fables (or myths, if you prefer). I think you can connect the dots from there.
WREturns(There was once a dream called Rome) @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:35AM
Greek fables? OMG! Kratos Kart Katastrophe Konfirmed!!!
Shattercross @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:39AM
WRE was one K away from KKK today.
Markez @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:48AM
Maybe you can be one of those saucy prostitutes from Bloodstone.
hachi machi
Maverick Saturn (Igor) @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:54AM
I'm wandering if that part has anything to even do with Sony at all, don't know why they couldn't in general have rare and fable characters in thier games with Micro's permission of course, its when it is linked with Sony that Micro will give the NO NO
Jimbotron @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:46PM
@Donald: then they would be using an uppercase F for Fables; it would be written as fables. And they would probably mention Greek in there too.
Seems like a misplaced section since Rare and Fable are both Microsoft, and you'll never see a Fable character or Banjo-Kazooie characters on a Sony console.
kevin @ Sep 22nd 2009 1:18PM
Rare & Fable are MS owned, so you can forget about seeing anything from those games in the psn world.
Jawmuncher (PSN & XBL:Jawmuncher) @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:26AM
Would be AMAZING if this were true.
Kenoji (aka Neo Asuma) @ Sep 22nd 2009 2:08PM
Absolutely. I'd love to play some of the old Dreamcast fighters again (i.e. Capcom vs. SNK, 3rd Strike). If they do put PS2 titles on the PSN, I wonder which ones they will put in first.
green11420 @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:27AM
Please be true
Haon @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:27AM
If this is real I will definitely have to buy another hd in anticipation for all the games I would be buying.
NaeemTHM @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:27AM
Well this would explain the new backwards compatibility software Sony patented for the PS3 a few months back.
However, while this is indeed awesome, I reeeeeeally don't want to buy back my old PS2 games. I already own a giant stack! Can't I just get a damn software patch and play them?
ben murray @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:45AM
I could not agree more. Sony gave a vague statement about allowing owners of the PSP Go! to download titles they already own on UMD for a discount fee.
Now clearly they haven't explaind exactly how high this fee would be but a similar model for PS2 on PS3 would rock my socks.
Chris D.(PSN: Aggie_CEO | XBL:The Aggie CEO | Steam: Aggie_CEO @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:29AM
Anyone with common sense should know that Sony wants PS2 titles on PSN.....I mean look at how they are re-doing God of War 1 & 2...Thats being ported with upgraded graphics and addition of trophies...
Thing is though I wouldn't think they would want ALL PS2 Titles on PSN, at least they wouldn't be able to put ALL of them up there, I would imagine that they would port them on a game by game basis....the BIG titles...the ones that are part of a series of a game thats about to come out(i.e.: The Twisted Metal series, Shadow of The Colossus, ICO, etc...) Time will tell tho...time will tell
as for the Dreamcast games on PSN...I would have thought they they would go to the 360 if anything...interesting indeed..
Crazy-008 @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:38AM
Powerstone online multiplayer suckaaazz!!
Neuromancer @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:47AM
Please stop abusing the gentle ellipses kind Sir.
marauder30 @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:37PM
They don't even have 1/100000000000000th of ALL the PS1 titles available on the [North American] store. I was browsing last night, and there's like 30 total. K maybe more, but not by much. There's no way they're gonna deliver every PS2 game ever.
Anthony33 @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:46PM
Power Stone online is all I want. I'd buy a PS3 for that if I had to.
Chris D.(PSN: Aggie_CEO | XBL:The Aggie CEO | Steam: Aggie_CEO @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:51PM
ummm I could have SWORN there are like 50 PS1 titles on PSN...could be wrong....
Victoryismine @ Sep 22nd 2009 12:58PM
Powerstone 2 was the first thing I thought of. Fucking AWESOME
Lustis @ Sep 29th 2009 11:05PM
Power Stone, Hydro Thunder and Rush 2049 were the first I thought of. That would make me so happy if they get released. I would prefer Rush to go to XBLA because I have the 360 Racing Wheel. But I'll be happy as long as it gets a re-release!
Chalex @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:30AM
A Sonic racing game on the PS3 with Rare and Fable characters?
Captain Planet [Planeteer | Power of Captain Planet] @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:29AM
I could go for some Powerstone 2...
IslandLife @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:47AM
Yeah, well I could surely go for some Rival Schools 2, 'cause Capcom is surely taking their sweet time making another one.
Very Disgruntled Programmer @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:32AM
I call bullsh*t. The 'Document' mentions Rachet and Clank, Fable and Rare in the same sentence. Microsoft owns Rare, and Fable is an Xbox exclusive...theres no way that Microsoft would allow DLC of thier IP on a rival system.
wallywallas @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:39AM
Agree. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
But if it's true... ah, what a beautiful thing it would be.
Shattercross @ Sep 22nd 2009 11:43AM
Maybe they ment they could distinguish the ps3 verson from the 360 version by giving the 360 those DLC characters?
Still, doesn't add up.