Is it wrong to expect a downloadable game to be priced lower than its boxed retail equivalent? The cost of sending information through the intertubes seems much cheaper than packaging a plastic disc and shipping it halfway across the world. Yet somehow, WipEout Pulse costs $5 more on the PlayStation Store than on Amazon.com. This isn't an isolated case, though. Capcom Classics Collection Remixed is also $5 cheaper to buy at retail than as a download. Hot Shots Golf Open Tee 2 is $6 cheaper at Best Buy than via PSN.
While the PlayStation Store is simply offering games at normal retail price, many retailers engage in price wars to gain the loyalty (and dollars) of consumers. Unfortunately, owners of the digital-only PSP Go will never be able to benefit from actual retail pricing, as SCEA's Eric Lempel told Destructoid that "we have pricing parity right now, and it is part of our strategy."
In Japan, PSN downloads have been customarily slightly cheaper than retail equivalents. Unfortunately, Lempel isn't open to the idea. "We'd like to keep it that way, keep a level playing field, and again, there's not that much more to say on that topic." We'll see if Sony changes its tune should consumers end up not paying $250 for a system that only plays what they see as overpriced games.
Reader Comments (80)
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 3:43AM Scratchcard said
psp go just a rly bad idea from the beginning.....
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 3:49AM Zach Adams said
Gamestop has gone on-record saying they will not carry anything that's given a lower price, head start availability or other incentive to buy direct-download (it's okay to give a preorder incentive that's equal to what Gamestop can offer, but not greater). As long as this is the case, I do not see any major console manufacturers wanting to incur their wrath, which is unfortunate because a huge retail-vs-dd war would be hilarious.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 4:18AM SolidSnakeEyes said
Disappointing, but expected. If the downloadable games were cheaper than retail, stores would freak out about PSP Go even more than they already are.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 4:37AM (Unverified) said
Why do people insist on bashing the Go, I have pre-ordered it, I think its a fair price, and it is exactly what I want. If you dont want it, dont buy it. SONY is giving us the option to buy the device that suits what you need.
I dont recall people bashing the ipod touch for being download only!!
Digital Download is the future.
I dont recall people bashing the ipod touch for being download only!!
Digital Download is the future.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 11:02AM shattercross said
With the psp go it's sort of a slippery slope because besides the initial profit from it's sale, there's no incentive for a brick and mortar to carry it- sure you can sell accessories for it but there's not constant stream of profit like there would be if you had to buy physical media like games and movies for it every month... it's sorta like asking them to shoot themselves in the foot. So to keep games retailers from freaking out even more Sony's keeping the prices for downloadable games at MSRP, with sort of removes some of the incentive of going download only.
There's a reason Gamestop doesn't carry ipod touches or iphones, there's no return investment.
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There's a reason Gamestop doesn't carry ipod touches or iphones, there's no return investment.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 11:03AM CheesecakeJones said
Yeah, but with the iPod, you could rip your own CDs. You had the option to use their (competitively priced) digital download service, but they didn't FORCE you to use it. You could still use your old CDs, or you could buy your CDs at Wal-Mart and keep them on your shelf forever.
With the PSP Go, they're FORCING you to use their (non-competitively priced) digital download service, and they're ignoring any UMD library you might have. You can no longer take advantage of used prices or rentals. They're also taking away the guarantee that the game you buy today will be playable in the future. When the license goes away, the game goes away!
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With the PSP Go, they're FORCING you to use their (non-competitively priced) digital download service, and they're ignoring any UMD library you might have. You can no longer take advantage of used prices or rentals. They're also taking away the guarantee that the game you buy today will be playable in the future. When the license goes away, the game goes away!
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 11:13AM CheesecakeJones said
That being said, if Sony were to offer a Netflix-like subscription-based download service, I might actually be interested. Maybe they could charge $15 a month to let you play 2-3 games at a time? THAT I might pay for...
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 4:47AM gettinmoney662 said
Sony needs to decide whether they want to go completely digital or to keep retailers happy. They can't have it both ways. Not many people are going to pay more for the digital version for a game when they can get a physical copy for cheaper, especially with all this inane anti-digital hysteria going on. (If you download a game to a memory stick, you now have a physical copy of the game. Furthermore, you can back that game up on to other hard drives in case the original memory stick gets lost, something you can't do when you buy a UMD.)
I bought a PSP 3000 because I thought Sony was going to be serious about moving to a DD-only model but the number one advantage of a DD-only model is supposed to be lower prices. New PSP games on the PSN at $40 is the reason why my PSP is only used to play PS1 games.
I bought a PSP 3000 because I thought Sony was going to be serious about moving to a DD-only model but the number one advantage of a DD-only model is supposed to be lower prices. New PSP games on the PSN at $40 is the reason why my PSP is only used to play PS1 games.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 5:16AM Arlanthir said
Thank you!
Finally someone important getting to the bottom of this. I complain on the blog a lot about the pricing issues, both with retail (like getting Patapon at 40€ when it was 20$ on USA) as well as PSN vs retail (getting Monster Hunter Freedom Unite at 40€ when it's 18£ on amazon.co.uk).
Now, how can they expect me to buy games with those prices?
Really bad idea from someone who wants to "fight the piracy". I make an effort to buy every game I like, but I guess I'll have to play fewer PSP games now. I buy NEW PS3 games cheaper (amazon, shopto, you know what I'm talking about) than what they want me to pay for PSP PSN releases.
Long live English internet retailers, the only way to get games on Portugal :)
Finally someone important getting to the bottom of this. I complain on the blog a lot about the pricing issues, both with retail (like getting Patapon at 40€ when it was 20$ on USA) as well as PSN vs retail (getting Monster Hunter Freedom Unite at 40€ when it's 18£ on amazon.co.uk).
Now, how can they expect me to buy games with those prices?
Really bad idea from someone who wants to "fight the piracy". I make an effort to buy every game I like, but I guess I'll have to play fewer PSP games now. I buy NEW PS3 games cheaper (amazon, shopto, you know what I'm talking about) than what they want me to pay for PSP PSN releases.
Long live English internet retailers, the only way to get games on Portugal :)
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 6:10AM GoonieGooGoo said
Sony not allowing an upgrade path for existing PSP owners + High PSP GO Price = PSP GO is going to be a flop.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 7:49AM (Unverified) said
As a side-note, I always thought it kind of clever (read: bastardly) on Sony's part that eliminating the UMD meant games still neeed to be stored somewhere. And where is that? Why, its a Sony Memory Stick. I don't recall if the Go has a slot for a MS, but those of us on older PSPs who want games like, say, Patapon 2, not only have to lay out for the cost of the game, but we need to buy the Sony proprietary medium to store it on. Granted you can buy a third-party MS if you want, but I'm sure they'll do what they can to discourage this.
$40 PSP downloaded game + $15-$40 memory stick = screw the customers (and profit!)
$40 PSP downloaded game + $15-$40 memory stick = screw the customers (and profit!)
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 9:03AM CaramelZappa said
Yea, the Go has a memory stick slot. They can't do anything to stop you from buying a third party memory stick, or from buying a memory stick to micro-sd adapter. The psp will NOT be able to tell the difference.
You have a point though, and a lot of users won't know this and fork over more money to Sony when they don't have to. It's basically along the same lines as the Wii branded SD cards, people at gamestop will tell you it's the only one that works, but it's simply not true.
I'd personally get a memory stick to microsd adapter, because microsd slots are in everything nowdays, so the card you bought for it would be useful for other things when you're done with patapon 2. (and other games)
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You have a point though, and a lot of users won't know this and fork over more money to Sony when they don't have to. It's basically along the same lines as the Wii branded SD cards, people at gamestop will tell you it's the only one that works, but it's simply not true.
I'd personally get a memory stick to microsd adapter, because microsd slots are in everything nowdays, so the card you bought for it would be useful for other things when you're done with patapon 2. (and other games)
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 9:12AM sapient2k7 said
AFAIK memory stick to micro-sd adapter do NOT work doe digital downloads (stuff bought at PSN) due to not being magicgate compatible.
DRM :)
DRM :)
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 9:50AM suade94 said
Pathetic. Sony has dropped the ball continuously since releasing the PSP and PS3. It took three years to get the PS3 down to a respectable price and now they release a portable only $50 less. This is what led to the demise of Sega, Atari, and many others. Sony has other electronics to fall back on, but with the economy right now I don't think the PSP Go was wise. I'll take a DS or i-phone.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 10:14AM (Unverified) said
I can't believe anyone in the universe would buy this over a real PSP.
The PSP is already a low-tier system, but to eliminate the only decent reasons to have one (use of custom firmware + getting cheap used games)???? WHO NEEDS THIS ITEM. I've disliked the company since their first anti-2-D campaign, but this product deserves to fail even more than UMD itself did.
The PSP is already a low-tier system, but to eliminate the only decent reasons to have one (use of custom firmware + getting cheap used games)???? WHO NEEDS THIS ITEM. I've disliked the company since their first anti-2-D campaign, but this product deserves to fail even more than UMD itself did.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 10:51AM Scuffles said
how is this surprising seriously ....... your surprised by any of this ?
The PSPGo will have
Less Noise because there is no UMD drive ...... Success
Games will be cheaper because there is no packaging and little distro cost.... Fail
The battery will last longer because there is now UMD drive ..... Fail
Kill second hand market .... Success
Stop Pirates ...... was never part of the equation but it made for a good soapbox
I said it atleast a year ago don't expect to see any savings on games because they are cutting costs, in fact expect to see less savings because they have no need to clear a warehouse of UMD games that no one is buying because the market hit saturation or the game is three or more years old.... save the occasional we want to drag you onto our new medium sale.
Enjoy the age of sony being like disney ..... and you can look forward to seeing games get dragged out of the Sony game vault for a limited time then taken down in a month only to replete the process about once every one to three years. When you could have just walked into your local target or gamestop and picked it up at your leisure. But its awesome !!!!!
The PSPGo will have
Less Noise because there is no UMD drive ...... Success
Games will be cheaper because there is no packaging and little distro cost.... Fail
The battery will last longer because there is now UMD drive ..... Fail
Kill second hand market .... Success
Stop Pirates ...... was never part of the equation but it made for a good soapbox
I said it atleast a year ago don't expect to see any savings on games because they are cutting costs, in fact expect to see less savings because they have no need to clear a warehouse of UMD games that no one is buying because the market hit saturation or the game is three or more years old.... save the occasional we want to drag you onto our new medium sale.
Enjoy the age of sony being like disney ..... and you can look forward to seeing games get dragged out of the Sony game vault for a limited time then taken down in a month only to replete the process about once every one to three years. When you could have just walked into your local target or gamestop and picked it up at your leisure. But its awesome !!!!!
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 10:53AM Scuffles said
Just to jump ahead of people saying Sony never said that the games would be cheaper or that the battery would be better ....... no they didn't but that was what was driving large chunks of the PSPGo fanboys through rumor and misconceived speculation.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 11:10AM CheesecakeJones said
Yeah, the value to Sony is that they can make SO MUCH more money.
1. They control all the pricing (no bargain bin, no price drop over time)
2. They don't have to produce/distribute a physical product
3. They don't have to share the sale price with retail outlets
4. There is no used market
5. There are no 3rd party rentals
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1. They control all the pricing (no bargain bin, no price drop over time)
2. They don't have to produce/distribute a physical product
3. They don't have to share the sale price with retail outlets
4. There is no used market
5. There are no 3rd party rentals
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 11:09AM shattercross said
If I were Sony I would've taken the time and resources taken to design the psp go and work on a psp2.
Honestly it's a waste.
I mean it was a novel idea but it's just not the time to be doing it, the retailers aren't ready to do away with physical media and the consumers aren't ready either.
Honestly it's a waste.
I mean it was a novel idea but it's just not the time to be doing it, the retailers aren't ready to do away with physical media and the consumers aren't ready either.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 11:56AM zenaxe said
I desperately love the PSP system but Sony is setting up the PSP-go to be a fail festival of epic proportions with all their policy goofiness, pricing, etc.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 12:25PM Nergon said
I realize that my situation isn't typical, so I appreciate the generally negetive view on the pricing of games on the PSN. But I'm happy to see the arrival of a situation where new games are available as downloads on the PSN as well as in stores. I just got the Rock Band PSP bundle for my daughter for her birthday. One of the reasons I was excited to get that for her was that I knew I could load it up with all the games I've already bought for my 2000 off the Playstation store. Even if new games are available on the PSN from now on for $40, I can then load them on both of our systems, so I'm getting a better deal than paying even $25 for 2 copies.
But yeah, I know most of you aren't in that same boat with me.
I also think that if Sony continues to sell downloadable game vouchers in stores (I also bought Patapon 2 from Target for $14) they could continue to be successful with retailers keeping their own store prices at MSRP. That way, those of us who live in metropolitan areas are covered by retailers and those of us who live in rural areas still have availability or can still buy from Amazon or other online retailers.
Also, I agree that the Go is a lame idea. I don't hate it, but it's just not for me. I like the wide screen I have and I want to play the UMD's I already have. Just lowering the price to same as the 3000 would make it a much better product. But it still wouldn't be for me.
But yeah, I know most of you aren't in that same boat with me.
I also think that if Sony continues to sell downloadable game vouchers in stores (I also bought Patapon 2 from Target for $14) they could continue to be successful with retailers keeping their own store prices at MSRP. That way, those of us who live in metropolitan areas are covered by retailers and those of us who live in rural areas still have availability or can still buy from Amazon or other online retailers.
Also, I agree that the Go is a lame idea. I don't hate it, but it's just not for me. I like the wide screen I have and I want to play the UMD's I already have. Just lowering the price to same as the 3000 would make it a much better product. But it still wouldn't be for me.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 1:17PM aristokrat said
I don't see any good reason for their being a delay on PSN release. It's the exact same data, making slightly repackaged. I'm sure there's a program in the dev tools package that does the conversion in one click. It's not like it has to ported or anything, and this can't be any harder than installing games to my 360 HD, which takes very little time and then runs perfectly (exceptions, I know).
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 2:01PM superaj said
Maybe now, people will see the psp go is a piece of shit. I've been saying it since it was unveiled, and all I got was down voted in the comments. I have a psp 2000, I was hoping to upgrade, but not to the Go. It could have been so much better, but now its just a way for Sony to fool morons into spending way too much money. It's a console designed purely for profit. with quality and entertainment following at second and third priority. DONT BUY THIS! I want a better psp. Not a money trap.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 2:05PM tkashur said
I really would like this psp go, I'm done with the physical media age. However, the price isn't the only thing that is concerning me about the go. I have a concern with every system on backwards compatability of DLC products. Seriously, I'm pooring money into this new digital media, and yet for all I know its going to be stuck on these old products when I get a PSP 2 or Xbox x+360=y. Then what? I won't be able to trade in old systems for new ones anymore because I will never be able to play those games again, or worst, I might have to rebuy last generations DLC games.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 3:00PM Ex14 said
does sony want the pspgo to FAIL?
on the other hand i wonder how many pspgo supporters feel about this?
on the other hand i wonder how many pspgo supporters feel about this?
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 5:46PM Kinjiro said
Maybe it isn't obvious but Sony can't piss of retailers. Once digital distribution gets popular, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo can give Gamestop the finger but until that happens, they are still Gamestop's bitch.
Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 5:56PM (Unverified) said
Hmm true! im still gonna buy one. just to stay up with the times. plus the psp 3000 is too wide in my pocket. more room for my penis to move to the side when i have a awkward boner momment.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2009 8:50PM Got Horchata said
Well, EB Games and Gamestop are having a deal online and in-store where if you trade in the PSP 2000 or 3000 and 3 PSP games, you get $100 off the PSP Go. Just because of that, I'm getting it.
Posted: Sep 24th 2009 10:01AM (Unverified) said
Man, really? this thing is cool! just like when people complained about the DSi and PS3, im still gonna buy it. im excited!
and you know what else is a money trap? fast food restaurants. yet, everyone is still going. getting fat. you dam heathens.
anyone complaining is probably still gonna buy it. or get wet as soon as they can see one and hold it.
Rook told you so!
and you know what else is a money trap? fast food restaurants. yet, everyone is still going. getting fat. you dam heathens.
anyone complaining is probably still gonna buy it. or get wet as soon as they can see one and hold it.
Rook told you so!
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