Don't expect old 360 games to add Natal support

I mean, is that what you'd call it, Rich? Hand swirling? Flipping the imaginary rolodex? Feeding the geese? er I think that last one was something else

theres no reason to beat (the meat) around the bush. call it what it is: being a single man.

hehheheh hehh hehhehe hehehhe, is there some other committed man who can explain why this is so funny? being a single man... lulz

ok ok sorry about that. im 19 and i think its safe to say that relationships at this age are a little bit different than those of you who are in more mature relationships. You guys have

weird, it cut me off mid sentence. you guys have more meaningful relatoinships and we are about teh b00bz... or something like that.

I'll field this one, Markez.

JCX, you ever hear the phrase, "Three's a crowd?" Well you will when your girlfriend/wife is pregnant.

I think it is a good thing that it would not be supported on older games. That would be mostly hokey. I would rather have games that were built from the ground up to take advantage of Natal.

While I think Natal is really cool and cannot wait to see the innovation that happens because of it, I probably will still play with and prefer the controller with the majority of the games I play.

haha yea now that phrase has a totally new meaning to me now. I think i like it less tho.

Does it make me gay if the thought of t-bagging makes me smile every time?

Not unless you're blindfolded.

Or really drunk.







REALLY drunk.

Depends, are you smiling because your the bagger or the baggeree?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUxiXEGtp70

I hear Temidien enjoys teabagging while being teabagged.

Trust me, he can do it!

*Natal

Halo 3: North Atlantic Treaty Organization Edition

^ this is why we do not have an Edit button. Its much better to see the funny shit people have to add to make a mistake into something we can all enjoy.

I can't stop thinking about NATO v. UNSC now. Bungie, GET ON IT!!

I think sony would disagree with that. they are putting their motion controls into a lot of their released games.

Oh yeah? That's good. I was pretty angry when I only had Super Stardust HD for so long to collect Trophies for. If this new motion controller works out, I'll probably buy the PS Eye and the Controller.

You need both things. In this case it's not as easy to patch Natal into a game and we have seen the execution is terrible on at least Burnout Paradise.

The only way Natal and the PS3 Motion Controller will be successful is if they learn from the mistakes of Nintendo with the Wii. Don't promise something and not deliver, have quality control over the games that are released, don't force gamers to use the motion controller and put a lot of first party weight behind the devices. The reason the Wii was such a failure to core gamers was because 1. It didn't work as originally advertised and had to later add hardware that wasn't free, 2. There were barely any games for hardcore gamers, 3. The sheer volume of casual mini-game compilations gave the system a kiddy image and 4. A large portion of the first party stuff Nintendo put out wasn't geared towards a core audience.

The reason there is a difference is because the PS3 & 360 are damn near exclusively a hard core gaming platform at this point though it is changing. They need to convince the hardcore gamers first and not alienate them just for the casual consumer that only buys a handful of games in comparison. If you can convince the hardcore gamer that a motion controller setup offers them something as well as the casual then it will be a huge success.

If they decide to put out fitness routines, mini games, wii ports, stupid add on's (motion plus, heart monitor, plastic controller shells etc) then it will fail.

johnny- do you really expect HARDCORE and otherwise non-casual type games to really come to the ps3 and 360 motion apps in the future ?

all we have really seen are CASUAL games displayed by sony and MS to show off their new products, so i wouldnt expect MGS5 and gears of war3 to even implement this, maybe though...

u realize this is being relased for the casual gamer right ?

mr kahn- i agree its not to go backwards, but move forward. developers spending time to patch this would leave less time for them to make new games to implement this technology..

The best part of Natal? You can eat Cheetos while playing and not muck up your controllers.

... sorry, that has nothing to do with your post, but I misread "cheevos" as Cheetos. Maybe I just need a snack or something...

+ (the other side of the coin)

""considering Sony can patch motion control into older PS3 titles""

well the same was said about trophies and sony thanks for supporting some old titles but ive been waiting for 2 years worth of games to be patched with trophies and it aint happening....

You're wrong. Sure, adding support for a new standard joypad or steering wheel would be simple, but something like motion control is vastly different and would require a lot more code to accomplish. And yes, there'd need to be additional graphics and sound for tutorials and such. You can't just have a 2MB patch with a bit of code and a picture of a motion controller for the MOTION CONTROL ON option.

almost every game could implement these tech(s) in some fashion on the 360 or ps3, but who would want to spend that time and money in development, when they could move onto new projects and new $$$. ?

just from a developers/business stance i feel...

the fact I spelt JOYSTIQ incorrectly makes my post redundent and makes me look a retard. well done me!

you still type www???

I didnt realize that we will no longer be able to play our non motion games after natel comes out. maybe you can post a link to that post so i can read it myself.

BC and adding motion controls to old games is totally different. When you got ur PS3 and PSN went up, did you expect sony to make your PS2 games online? didn't think so.

"So, is everyone going to pitch a huge fit and throw a temper tantrum about how Microsoft doesn't care about backwards compatibility?"

This isn't backwards compatibility.

And if you want to flap your arm to play Lair because Sony will make it possible, please do.

im lost did a 1 console only fanboy say something ?

i dont even understand this random splat of fanboy crap from somebody who usually collects themselves and gives a thought out opinion.....

i always knew johnny to be a fanboy since getting burned(RROD) by MS, but i usually like to hear his opinions.....

hardware or firmware...
cough cough... still waiting for those trophies for older games myself....
and im waiting for the address to send my UMD games to sony in return for digital copies of them..... sneeze..... excuse me.

sony says maybe and yes, but the actual developers and publishes ususally say no, were going to make new games and not spend money on older games that probably sold less copies on the ps3 verion.