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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:01PM Uncontrol said

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It's too soon. Primarily downloadable content should've been used for the PSP2. This is just a convoluted mess of distribution.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:17PM EngadgetSoFunny said

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Agreed, but this is Sony we are talking about. We can be optimistic that for the first two years it can look like epic fail but still turn out to be a decent product two years after launch. IE PSP and PS3.

Sure, it may be hard to develop for, have no backwards compability or have backwards compability dropped, the infastructure may be initially lacking(See: PSN of 2k6) but it'll be fixed. Just wait two more years and it'll all work out as part of Sony's no doubt 'ten year psp go' plan.

Just wait, a sony exec will say it sooner or later.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:17PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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thats the thing...they wanted to test the waters on this...to see how people would react to it. My Guess if it sales fewer than 5 million globally in the next 6-12 month then they will most likely scrap the digi-only of the PSP2...
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 2:36PM PlatinumSkeet said

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First off if this device should have had 32-64 gig storage at the least.

Also it's just too many changes at one time for the people that have been supporting PSP before the PSPGo. If your a previous PSP owner looking to buy a PSPGo, your USB accesories won't work, your A/V cables won't work and all the games/movies that you purchased won't work.

If Sony would've added a extra nub for games and made sure previous PSP accessories would work with this it would've been a great alternative. All the PSPGo is at this point is a cosmetic change. Sony would've been better off throwing this money at the PSP2...
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 2:52PM 01 said

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I agree, but unfortunately Sony saw the need for a bridge product. Additionally, the fact that games will cost the same if not more (?) than retail prices, the whole thing screams of mishandling. Which is totally unlike Sony.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 3:26PM David Black said

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Sony is shooting for where the basket will be in 3-5 years. (That said I don't think this is going to do a whole lot for them until that time. They did the same with Blu-ray) This is not a move for the Jostiq/enthusiast crowd. I own a 2000 but I'm probably not going to buy many more titles on UMD. When the PSP2 launches it will probably not have a UMD drive but will be "backwards compatible" with titles on the PSN. So investing in the PSN is probably the best way to protect your gaming library going forward.

I have a feeling this will be a niche product among "core gamers" and slightly more popular than that among casual/new gamers. I'm guessing Sony will probably sell around 5M of these over the next 18 months.

Does anyone here really think that the next PSP will be play UMDs? This is not a true bridge product for that model, but rather a proof of concept to get a certain segment of the market onboard with all digital.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 3:36PM JoshMilewski said

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"Which is totally unlike Sony."

lol
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 4:23PM MNeko said

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Seriously. Where have you been for the last four years? It's been nothing BUT screw-ups from Sony lately, with the PS3 Slim as the lone exception.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 6:10PM Larz said

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What? IMO the PS3 Slim is the only screw up! The original couple PS3's were great, until everyone started complaining and they stripped out features left and right. No more Linux, no more Super Audio, no more BC, no card readers, half the USB ports. I don't understand why people can't just acquiesce that something is just out of their price range instead of just trash talking it. It's like me seeing a Lamborghini and saying "that's pretty sweet, how much? Nevermind, that thing's a piece of shit! What a major screw up by those crazy Italians!"

I don't personally like the PSPG, and won't buy one because of the proprietary plug it uses and the lack of a mini-USB port. The lack of UMD isn't really an issue, because the UMD drive was it's biggest flaw in the first place! Right? I started buying games off the store as soon as they started porting stuff, because I don't want to carry around a crate full of UMD's.... kinda defeats the purpose of a PlayStation PORTABLE.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 6:52PM mahouneko said

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@Lars:
The smaller USB plug is not proprietary. Have you bothered to look at Korea? Most of the cellphones there use said smaller USB plug which include the likes of Nokia, Ericsson, Samsung, etc.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 6:57PM Larz said

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I'm not talking about mini-USB or micro-USB. I'm talking about the new plug on the GO, which is certainly not a standard plug, unless I'm sorely mistaken.

"...no longer uses a standard USB A-to-Mini-B cable common with many devices. A new proprietary multi-use connector is used for PC connectivity. "
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 7:27PM TwistedBishop said

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@Lars You seriously believe Sony stripped down the PS3 because of internet complaints? They started slashing and burning because the thing WASN'T SELLING. The people who could afford a PS3, wanted what it had to offer and didn't consider it overpriced for those offerings, were buying them. Shame that number was consistently less than 100k a month and spelling doom for the entire brand. But you're right, totally the consumer's fault.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 8:41PM MarkezJM said

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I dunno Lars, I love my new slim PS3. It is super hi-technical schweet.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 10:05PM The Punisher said

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@ (01)

"Bridge Product"

We all know how successful those are... 32X anyone?
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:20AM dartmerc said

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Well I'm glad they jumped the gun. You may argue it's too soon, but a fully digital system is EXACTLY what I'm looking for, so in that regard it caters perfectly to me.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:02PM Haggard said

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Are they planning to make the whole PSP library available for download? I'm tempted by one of these but it'd be ridiculous if I couldn't get some of the older gems for it - and I bet they'll be on the store at crazy prices too.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:11PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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they might end up getting 80% of it on the store...but not all of it...Some companies don't want their games in that format, which is why they axed that "UMD-to-PSN Conversion" process...

but from here on out ALL games are suppose to be available on UMD and on PSN
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:48PM refractured said

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if youre thinking of getting a PSP, get a PSP 3000. You'll be able to get the UMDs CHEAPER than the digital versions on the PS store. But even IF you want the digital versions, the PSP3000 ALSO plays those.
Most PSP3000 packages come with a good size Memory Stick Pro Duo (which are dirt cheap anyway) AND a game for $50 less. And the accessories? Also dirt cheap. There is absolutely no compelling reason anymore to get a PSPgo. Its killer app is the sliding screen...
SO
Either spend $50 and get a full blown PS3
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SAVE $50 and get a PSP that can play ALL PSP games, plenty of flash memory, and a game.

I'm so disappointed with Sony. Letdown after letdown.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 2:14PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Baron,

The plan is to add legacy title support to the PSP GO via the PSN as time goes on. There is no way to know for sure if every single game will be available on the GO but I would imagine that the majority of good legacy titles will be available on the GO. You are the perfect candidate to get a PSP GO. If I hadn't upgraded to a 3000 not that long ago I'd be getting a GO on day 1 for sure. As it stands I'm not sure what to do with my 3000 (keep it, sell it, trade it etc) but the fact of the matter is that the PSP GO is everything I wanted from the PSP when it was initially launched.

I understand the UMD argument and the fact that the 3000 and earlier models can also play downloaded content off a memory stick but that argument misses the point because the GO is meant to truly be a portable device. The older PSPs have gotten lighter but their size and shape are still to big to throw in your pocket and game on the go (no pun intended) but thats something the GO is built for from the ground up.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 2:25PM guttertalk said

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Testing the download market has little to do with this bastard console. They could have done it with the current PSPs (the PSP 3000 with additional memory at least).

I can and will ignore the PSP Go, so it's no skin off my nose. But it really makes me wonder just what the heck they're doing at Sony. Business-wise, this Go has no compelling story as a project, and it has no draw for current owners, and probably not for new ones either. One reason to buy a console or handheld later in the cycle is to get the excellent cheaper games.

What is the appeal of being able to buy only a limited portion of the PSP library at a premium price?

If it fails, does it indicate that selling soft copies of games is a bad idea? The PSP Go sales just won't give Sony any insight to that. But it does tell us that Sony doesn't have a clue.

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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 3:57PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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guttertalk...I beg to differ...It has EVERYTHING to do with Testing a Digital only format....and the proof to that will be if this completely bombs, then the PSP2 will still have UMD...if it DOESNT Bomb kiss UMD goodbye...
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:06PM RKN said

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Oh great, Sony completely controls the distribution process for the games. You can't rent games, can't sell them, Sony is the only one selling them so they have a monopoly on pricing, etc.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:20PM s ls said

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FW 6.0 hinted at game renting but nothing set in stone other than that and rumors. Yeah paying $40 for a PSP game is ridiculous especially when on Amazon they become $30 in a month.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:21PM HandOfReason said

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I can't help but see this device as a kind of "official" nod to the PSP piracy scene. PSP piracy is a bit rampant and it works off loading everything from memory sticks. It almost feels like Sony is catering to this audience, unless they pulled some magic firmware out of their hats on this one. If (or I should say when) that firmware gets hacked, this sounds like a nice upgrade to those who *ahem* never used their UMD drives anyway.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:40PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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Game Renting is coming....an I'd be willing to sale to both the PSP, and PS3 within the next year, I mean its a GOOD way to make money and help people that might be on the fence about a game...
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:55PM BigD145 said

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You pay Sony and Sony continues to retain ownership of what you buy.

Sony 1
Consumers 0
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 2:01PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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so I take it NONE of you buy games on STEAM/XBL/PSN?
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 2:24PM (Unverified) said

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Nope, I only buy games that are on a physical format.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 2:25PM JXCGunrunna said

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@chris
Im asking out of curiosity. with PSN, can you redownload games on different psp's with the same account like you do with steam? The big thing with steam is i can move from my desktop to a different desktop to my laptop through out the day depending on where im at. So Valve gives you the feeling of freedom to play and redownload anywhere you want and its as easy as installing steam and logging in. (that was more for ppl who do not know since obviously ur on steam) If PSN does not let you feel like you have that freedom, then having digital games does not sound like a good idea to me.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 3:04PM Vidikron said

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@JXCgunrunna

Yes, you can, though you are limited to the number of machines. But that's really an apples-to-oranges comparison. The PSP is a mobile device so logically the ability to download to a different machine is really needed for most situations since the device is meant to travel with you.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 3:06PM Vidikron said

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*is NOT really needed
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 3:16PM Kicks said

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@JXCgunrunna

You can re-download it on up to 5 PSPs that you own. So if you have a 3000, 2000, 1000, and get a go you can download it to each. The intent from Sony was more from a warranty/repair standpoint in the event that you bought a new one and tossed your old, etc. It has been abused by game-sharers though...
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 4:00PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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I have copied some games from my PS3 to MY PSP, then over to my brother-in-laws PSP as well...so I suppose you can, up to the 5 allotted times that most PSN games have
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 6:15PM Larz said

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@RKN

Works for Apple.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 7:57PM Kar94k said

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Thats how its been on PSN and Xbox Live for a long time. My only problems are that it only comes in 16gb and its $50 dollars less than a PS3 Slim. If they up the capacity to 32gb and decrease the price than we're in business.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:06PM Funkmaster General said

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Well, at least I feel that my uneasiness towards the GO has now been justified.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 3:30PM VIDEOGAMES said

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Their tagline -

PSP Go! - Less, for more.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:07PM ducttapeBigSexy said

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I still get the feeling that Sony wanted to experiment with a download-only device, but didn't want to lock themselves into it. I still think they should have done a DSi solution - make it compatible with the old PSP, but add a touch screen and a second stick and make PSP Go-only games.

Since it doesn't really do anything that substantially better than my 3000 (nor can it play any of my UMDs), I can honestly say I won't be buying a Go.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:08PM StormEagle said

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So do the chants of "price drop" begin a new?

Because I want one, I really do. But I'm not paying $250 for a handheld.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:31PM (Unverified) said

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There is a price reduction on the go from Dell, you can get it for $212 after using a coupon they give you. Its closer to the price I would want to pay for it, but I'm still not convinced I really want a go right now.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237641
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:08PM kornchild2002 said

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I would purchase one on launch day if it were $199 but $250 is way too much especially considering that a 3G 32GB iPod touch is going for $50 more. Yes, I know that the two devices are different but the iPod touch does a lot more than the PSP Go.

$250 is just too much money to spend on something that will likely be replaced in a year or two (ie the PSP 2). It looks like a great device and I like the idea of not having to haul around a case of games but people will be paying a premium for dated hardware (ie the PSP architecture is 4 years old, it is time for the next PSP hand held version and not just a spin on the current setup).

I was excited about the PSP Go's launch but the high price means that I won't be getting one and that I might as well just start saving for the PSP 2.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:08PM (Unverified) said

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"PSP Go is a bad idea, but at least I can say it's a perfectly executed one."

So basically that's kind of like saying you squeezed out the perfect turd....impressive, but it's still a turd.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:16PM Nate Addison said

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I swear you were watching me in the bathroom this morning. I looked down and immediately wondered where my camera was. It had the girth of a paper towel roll and the length well beyond a foot. It was a proud moment for me and my family tree.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:46PM Ignatius said

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What has been read... cannot be forgotten.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:09PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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ummm I'm most likely just Holding onto my 3000 until the PSP2 comes out...

whats sad is, if they had released the Go with at LEAST 32GBs for $200 I may have jumped on it...as most of my PSP games are from PSN anyways...I only have 3 UMD based games...

well at least 2012 is right around the corner...I'm sure the PSP2 will damn sure be out by then, and they will have learned from the PSP Go sales whether or not they can go COMPLETELY download only with it...as I'm looking at the Go as an experiment into new waters....Its funny how some people argue that the iPhone is a GOOD "Handheld" but smash the PSPGo for it NOT having physical media...damn them smashing it for the price...thats understandable...I agree Sony is dumb as hell for the price and I think they will end up dropping it to $199 by March...and then put the PSP-300-/4000 at the DS price of $129....
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:17PM copa said

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"Its funny how some people argue that the iPhone is a GOOD "Handheld" but smash the PSPGo for it NOT having physical media"

You clearly don't understand the point people are making. The problem is that the PSP Go is not compatible with the PSP's physical media library. If PSP had been download-only from the beginning, people wouldn't be killing the GO over this.

The other problem is pricing. Sony wants $40 for a poorly-reviewed racing game on the PSP, while $40 gets you 10-15 applications on the iPod touch.

There are a lot of people that were pirating games on the PSP, but there are also a lot of legitimate users who tend to swap games with their friends, or buy them used at a discount. You won't be able to do that with the PSP GO. Sony seems to be counting on a lot of users paying full retail for each and every PSP game they own, and they will be disappointed by how few people are actually willing to do that.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:24PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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I get your point, but I seriously doubt that even if it had BEEN download only from the begining that people would be so warmed up to it then....as their MAJOR argument is that they cant Sell, trade, or lend games out...I think we have already pretty much established this as for NEW PSP owners....if the PSP had came out as adownload only handheld back in '05 it would have been ripped apart even moreso then that it is now, and most certainly wouldn't have made it this far...
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:29PM copa said

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I'm not sure, Chris. The iPhone/iPod Touch has been download-only from the very beginning, and it has been much more reasonable from a software pricing standpoint. It has been very successful.

I don't see why Sony couldn't have been very successful as well if they had taken the same approach.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 1:38PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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The iPhone/Touch came out when...06?...App Store just added last year? the platform has Sold 30 Million+ No Way in HELL Sony could have pulled that off back in 2005, ESPECIALLY considering PlayStation Network was a distant thought at that point. Not to mention people are complaining about not having physical media now....it would have been WORSE in '05 as Steam, XBL, and PSN hadn't gotten people use to downloading $10-40 FULL games

Sure the iPhone/Touch is doing GREAT as far as digital distribution, but it also arguably has a different demographic, My Pastor has an iPhone and buys little games to play on it...he for SURE wouldn't buy a PSP Go to play games on as he's not a gamer, he just gets it cause he already has the iPhone and can get a cheap game on it. we have already argued back and forth that to HARDCORE Gamers we look at the iPhone as nothing more than a better version of the N-Gage, as the games on there are decent, but if they were $20-40 they DAMN sure wouldn't be selling like that.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2009 2:31PM HTCEVO said

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The reason why this sucks compared to the iPhone is the pricing compared to the iPhone or iPod Touch, and more importantly.. the absolute disregard of a trade in program for games. It's not a PSP2, it's a PSP. Therefore, the UMD format you shoved down our throats should be worth something. People have collected games for years on the PSP and now feel like they're being taken to the cleaners when asked to re-buy them.

The iPhone never did this. The iPhone was download from the start.. THAT's the difference.

And for the fucking love of God, enough with bashing iPhone games. You obviously haven't played on since launch as the games perform just as well (and sometimes better due to two virtual joysticks) than any button based handheld. It's always a freakin cheap shot with you people, and the sad thing is, you're missing out on really fun to play games. Pick up Above and Beyond Air Combat and tell me that there's a PSP flight game that controls smoother.

UUGHH...
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