Infinity Ward has no plans for pre-launch Modern Warfare 2 demo

I am. I wanted to know the size of the maps. One of the reasons I liked W@W more was because the maps was bigger. I also liked blowing up the tanks.

I don't think so. i think all the people that want this game are going to get it. and those that don't know, they'll end up getting it after seeing their friends play it..

maybe IW will release a demo next august like Treyarch did with WaW last month. lol.

A single player demo will not show the size of the online maps. There wont be tanks and there will be bigger maps. There will also be maps of the same size of CoD4 but there will be bigger ones too.

@TiLoBrown - They said they are now using streaming for the maps and so should have some freaking huge maps.

@TiLoBrown - Listen to JXCgunrunna, he knows because he's played the demo and the multiplayer beta, just like everyone who's raving about the game right now.

Thanks Carb. I'm not really surprised I got down voted for liking W@W more than 4.

@Giroro
I never said i played the game. I have not even seen it in person. I am an active member on IW's official forums and we have a large database of quotes and messages from the devs themselves. You know, like the guys and gals who are making the game.

You're right it doesn't need a demo but who in their right mind would turn down a chance to play the game early? What gets me is most big developers give you an opportunity to play their games early, what makes Infinity Ward so special. I've been playing Uncharted 2 for a while now enjoying while waiting for it's release and that game is going to also be a no brainier like this one is. The fact of the matter is that Naughty Dog is giving you something to be excited for other than hype. Shit there is even going to be a God of War 3 demo to tide fans over until release.

I'm a fence-sitter.
CoD4 didn't really impress me.

@Alex

Then what does impress you? A triple breasted two faced shemale on a pogo stick?

CoD4 was fun for a few hours, but then it got repetitive in a bad way and boring. It devolved into mindless spraying and nade spamming. Hardcore servers were better, but not by much. Modern Warfare 2 doesn't look to be much better. I mean, c'mon, death streaks? Really?

Yeah, I'm definitely not going to get it.
Kotick is just TOO much of a wanker

nope it doesn't need it. i played it at the media event here http://www.joystiq.com/2009/09/16/hands-on-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-multiplayer/

Multiplayer is sick, deep, and a shitload of fun. it needs zero help. unless you just want to not like this franchise you'll buy it.

If they were confidant in the quality of the game, there would be a demo.

I'm definitely not going to preorder now.

@ Giroro

How can you say that? Time and time again game developers say that making game demos for trade shows or the public take time out of actual development. They are confident, and are confident in bringing as close to 100% of a perfect game as possible.

Bringing in people to glitch/break the game and help them find everything they can before launch.

I don't see a problem with that at all.

Right, I'm sure they think it sucks and that's why there's no demo. Psh! How about, there's no demo because they don't need one. They know it's hyped, they know it's good, and they don't need to waste any time putting a demo out there.

I thought CoD4 was the "demo."

Its literally the same game with some complaints addressed and improvements made. And, if they were confident in the quality of the game, then wouldn't they opt not to release a demo, not actually release one? Your logic isn't exactly correct.

"They are confident, and are confident in bringing as close to 100% of a perfect game as possible."

No. They are only confidant that they are going to make a shitload of money no matter what they do, and game quality tends to suffer under those conditions.

They don't want people to realize that the game is less than until after everyone has bought it. There is no demo because the disillusionment involved with playing the game will hurt the hype that they are trying to build up.

They want people who haven't played the game to believe that it is perfect, so please continue to assert that on the internet.

@Giroro

You sound like a moron. They're not putting out a demo because it will eat up time they could be spending fixing bugs in the game. "Boo hoo, I'm not going to pre-order nao." Well you have fun being a pessimist while I enjoy a sure to be great game on release.

@Giroro:
Um, you can't say that. Not only does the demonstration of the game look as solid as as the previous one, on what grounds do you have to say that it is of lower quality?

Also, your logic isn't set in stone. Why spend more money to make a demo and get it distributed on Live and PSN when you feel that the game lives up to the original? Wouldn't you not release a demo because you're confident you don't have to? If you wanted input anyway, you'd go for a beta release, and again, Call of Duty 4 was just that. And what I find funny is that you can't make the comparison between MW/MW2 and Halo3/ODST even though you argued that Halo 3 was ODST's demo.

You fail at logic.

@Giroro

So by your logic, every game that's been released that hasn't put a demo out is crap and the developer just assumed everyone would buy it?

Riiiiiight.

While it is nice to have a demo for a game just to get a first-hand taste of what you'll be playing, I don't require them for any purchases I make. I pay attention to the more important things like: who's developing it? who's publishing it? is it a sequel? And then I read reviews. In the 24 years I've been playing video games, I've never once bought (or received) a bad game, so I think I'll stick with my logic and not try your's.

@RageOverdose - the Halo3 - ODST comparison is mocking to you people who think CoD4:MW is a demo of MW2

"Not only does the demonstration of the game look as solid as as the previous one, on what grounds do you have to say that it is of lower quality?"
If you're new to English, 'demo' is short for 'demonstration'. Now assuming you just mean the gameplay videos that have been shown, you should be savvy enough to know that gameplay videos are never a good representation of how fun the final product is. Have you really never played a game that looked good but turned out to be a disappointment?

"Why spend more money to make a demo and get it distributed on Live and PSN when you feel that the game lives up to the original?"
If we want to go with your flawless logic, why spend money developing a good game if you know everybody is just going to buy it regardless of quality?

It seems that you guys don't really care about my opinion, I just hope you don't get too badly burned before you realize that Activision is quickly becoming worse than EA ever was.

@Giroro

But being the, to use your word, "savvy", gamers we are, we can look at those gameplay videos and know the game plays and handles just like MW1. They've updated the engine slightly and added a plethora of enhancements to the multiplayer and have made the single player campaign even more robust and instense. What's not to like or even be cautious of?

It doesn't take a genius to watch the various videos out there and derive that they have taken all that was great about MW1 and improved upon it ten-fold.

What issues in the first game are you so scared of returning in the second compel you to demand a demo of this game so aggressively?

@Storm Eagle -"And then I read reviews."
I'm not saying the game is going to be terrible, and what I'm saying doesn't even apply to you. In case you didn't notice, my comments are directed toward the "Just buy it game gunna be badass" and "the game is as close to %100 perfect as physically possible" crowd.

And like I said before, I'm not going to preorder the game. By the looks of it neither are you. I don't buy games I know nothing about, and I sure as shit don't call something perfect that I've never played before.

All I'm really trying to do is get people to THINK instead of blindly buying it just because it has Call of Duty on the box. . . and come to think of it, the game doesn't even have that much.

@Giroro

But this is a Day 1 purchase for me. It's true that I'm not in the habit of pre-ordering games myself as I never have trouble getting them on release day anyway. But for some people, it's easier to pre-order a game you know you're gonna want on release day and then keep putting money down on it so that by the time it's ready to be released, they've already got it paid in full. So that might be something to consider. I know people who have played nothing but MW1 for the past 2 years and MW2 is going to be the only thing they play for the next 2 years. So why shouldn't they pre-order it? Because in all honesty, and even you can't argue this; the odds of this game being anything less than an 8/10 are 1:1,000,000.

While this doesn't apply to ALL games (see the NFS series, Tomb Raider, other constant reboots), I'm sure that the MW series is in good hands.

Some game companies you have to kind of give the benefit of the doubt. Infinity Ward has yet to fail me. Valve has yet to fail me. Bioware has yet to fail me. Blizzard has yet to fail me. Bethesda has yet to fail me.

Some companies do actually put their blood,sweat and tears into the shit they put out. Not everyone is EA.

@Giroro:

I'm not one of those people. I was just pointing out flawed logic. If it was a mockery, so be it. There was nothing to indicate it was.

I know what "demo" is short for, and they've done demonstrations of the game. I don't see how I'm wrong, and you don't need to insult my knowledge of the English language because you didn't get that.

And I never said my logic was flawless. Yours was just flawed. You aren't preordering a game because there isn't a demo. Why? What indication do you have this will be a bad game, or less than stellar? And why be critical of those who want to preorder it? The game looks, from the gameplay demonstrations, to be just like the original in terms of concept and execution, but tweaked to fix some complaints, such as enemies spawning forever until a goal was met. The snowfield mission was also very impressive, showing that the game not only worked as it always had, but they were keeping the emphasis on intensity, just as they always have. While it is true it could be a blunder, I have every reason to expect this game will be good. Now, I won't be preordering it, but that's because I haven't preordered anything since Super Mario Galaxy, and I've only preordered about 3 other games in my lifetime.

Beat me to it

The demo for ODST is called Halo 3.

Giroro, your argument is flawless.

@Giror - You're obviously a Halo fanboy given that you claim that MW2 must be rubbish which is why it has no demo and yet give ODST an excuse for not having a demo. Halo 3 can not be said to be the demo given that ODST was meant to be a different type of game / expansion. Going off your logic then CoD 4 was the demo for MW2.

I am anything but a Halo fanboy, those games are mediocre compared to almost any other popular shoote r(not to mention shields piss me off). Halo 3 is not a demo, and yes, ODST is only an expansion. The sad thing about all this is that me saying "Halo3 is a demo for ODST" was immediately downrated but the comment below that says MW1 is a demo for MW2 is highly rated. It's the same asinine jump in logic, only while my comment implies that Halo3 ODST is very similar to Halo3 (all of the important (multiplayer) content is the same) The other comment implies that MW2, the $70 game that everyone is drooling over is similar enough to the game we've been playing for years to be considered the same thing.

Giroro-It's called sarcasm. Maybe you've heard of it.

I think you mean Killzone 2...

I kid, I kid.

I meant free... not few. Silly billy

no need really. The same suckers who are going to buy a game at the rip-off price of $70 are going to buy the game regardless of whether there's a demo.

especially with the whole thing originally about naming it just "Modern Warfare 2" and dropping the call of duty, in the last OXM he made a big fussa bout how it's "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, it's a game in the CoD universe"

I know you're a detective and all, but stop it with the logic already...

To be honest, Nazi Zombies was a tacked on bit. You had to beat the campaign to unlock it. After it got very popular, they unlocked it for all and started supporting it with new maps. I think Treyarch even said it was just a bonus add-on thing. It just ended up becoming way more popular than they could have imagined.

right, at first it was just a fun little side project, but did the new maps lack polish or pride? There's a shitload of depth in them, i found the faux story in Nazi Zombies a million times more interesting than MW1