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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 8:50AM (Unverified) said
Gonna take longer than a few minutes for a workaround. From what I read they destroyed all softmods and all current methods at installing them.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:31PM ZaxCG2 said
Hard hit for the community. I trust in them though. I won't update as usual.
http://hackmii.com/ HackMii always seems to pull through.
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http://hackmii.com/ HackMii always seems to pull through.
Posted: Sep 30th 2009 6:44PM (Unverified) said
@ZaxCG@ (and everyone else:)
http://hackmii.com/ has already found a fix around the update's problem, if you end up being forced to update.
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http://hackmii.com/ has already found a fix around the update's problem, if you end up being forced to update.
Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:46PM (Unverified) said
i put a new supermario bros for wii in my son's system. it said update was required to 4.2, and now the new game won't read? is this common? i haven't updated his system and never was prompted to before this incident? i called nintendo and they said they've not had issues like this, but gamestop reports 10 or so instances of the same. all his other games still work.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 8:51AM Istari Spartan said
Speaking of homebrew;
I can't seem to get the Twighlight hack to work.
Do I HAVE TO use a 2gig or less card?
After I load the files to the card and copy them to the system
the Wii does not see the save files at all.
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I can't seem to get the Twighlight hack to work.
Do I HAVE TO use a 2gig or less card?
After I load the files to the card and copy them to the system
the Wii does not see the save files at all.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 8:52AM Istari Spartan said
On topic:
Meh.
You would have to be a serious nintendophile to care about this for what it is meant to be.
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Meh.
You would have to be a serious nintendophile to care about this for what it is meant to be.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:05PM Istari Spartan said
Geez, i get downvoted for asking a question?
It's not like i wanted to pirate software, i only wanted to play homebrew and watch dvds on my way.
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It's not like i wanted to pirate software, i only wanted to play homebrew and watch dvds on my way.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 3:41PM CJLopez said
asking a question about hacking a system were we dont condone this kind of activity gets you downvoted.
Go ask a hacking community for answers. I myself have hacked my wii waaaay back, and yes, i play burned games and isos from my hdd, but it had kept me from wasting money on games i though were pretty awesome (sonic and the black knight, facebreaker ko party and indiana jones to name a few)
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Go ask a hacking community for answers. I myself have hacked my wii waaaay back, and yes, i play burned games and isos from my hdd, but it had kept me from wasting money on games i though were pretty awesome (sonic and the black knight, facebreaker ko party and indiana jones to name a few)
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:07AM (Unverified) said
People with homebrew don't generally run Wii updaes, so unless this is being forced upon the wii, most homebrewers should be safe for now. ;)
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:15AM kawaiipikachu said
I guess they don't care about Virtual Console & WiiWare as well as I Expect the Shop channel Request that you update if you want to log in.
I don't really care about the homebrew especally as it leads to people running pirate games of a harddrive.
Anyway I proudly updated my Wii to 4.2 & ishall expect the email itself to arrive tomorrow like usall.
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I don't really care about the homebrew especally as it leads to people running pirate games of a harddrive.
Anyway I proudly updated my Wii to 4.2 & ishall expect the email itself to arrive tomorrow like usall.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:22AM (Unverified) said
@Kawaiipikachu: Not to turn this into a big homebrew discussion. But the whole point of a "softmod" is to NOT care about buying wiiware/VC. So no, they don't. They pirate it just like they do the retail games.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:29AM (Unverified) said
Sort of hard to care about the VC when Nintendo doesn't either...
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:51AM guttertalk said
@Ossot:
No, that is NOT the whole point of homebrew. Yes, there are emulators and unfortunately pirates. Some gamers are interested only in the homebrew games and apps.
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No, that is NOT the whole point of homebrew. Yes, there are emulators and unfortunately pirates. Some gamers are interested only in the homebrew games and apps.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 11:03AM Killimus2188 said
It's so hard to care about the VC when I can just toss an emulator on my PC and play any game I want and more.
And anyone who has the HBC is using it to pirate Wii games, since there isn't any homebrew that is actually useful (unlike the DS).
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And anyone who has the HBC is using it to pirate Wii games, since there isn't any homebrew that is actually useful (unlike the DS).
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:05PM Mr Khan said
Really? I've had homebrew a long time, though i only use it for the DVD functionality, and for something called PlayStats (similar to Nintendo Channel's new statistics function, except it gets everything you've ever played), but i've also done all the updates, and not lost functionality
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:25PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
"aside from DVD functions, which were unnecessary anyway."
If it wasn't necessary then why have custom firmware in the first place? I think playing DVDs would be the best reason to have custom firmware on the Wii. If the thing is capable of movie playback it's beyond me why that functionality isn't built into the system. If it did have DVD playback built in we wouldn't need an additional DVD player in the kids room. So it's very practical and seems very necessary to me.
The only reasons I can think of is that Nintendo didn't enable DVD playback because it wasn't designed for it, they planned to introduce it in a future update, planned it for the next Wii iteration, internal testing showed adverse effects to system longevity or that it would up the door even more to piracy.
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If it wasn't necessary then why have custom firmware in the first place? I think playing DVDs would be the best reason to have custom firmware on the Wii. If the thing is capable of movie playback it's beyond me why that functionality isn't built into the system. If it did have DVD playback built in we wouldn't need an additional DVD player in the kids room. So it's very practical and seems very necessary to me.
The only reasons I can think of is that Nintendo didn't enable DVD playback because it wasn't designed for it, they planned to introduce it in a future update, planned it for the next Wii iteration, internal testing showed adverse effects to system longevity or that it would up the door even more to piracy.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:07AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
No need to update, I most likely wont update again until its something USEFUL, like the previous update of being able to play games of the SD card...or until forced by a game....that is if the Wii requires certain updates to play certain games like the 360, PSP, & PS3 do..
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 4:48PM (Unverified) said
They do require updates for certain games. They required an update when I tried to run Carnival Games on an Wii straight out of the box after owning just Sports and Play. I'm sure that those that didn't stay up to date had to update when the motion+ was released with the 2 EA sports games
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:14AM (Unverified) said
Bannerbomb and Twilight hack is not working with 4.2. You need to use Indiana pwns or Smashstack.
But there are other additional piracy/homebrew protection measures, so there is not yet a complete workaround for this system menu update. Better not to install for now.
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But there are other additional piracy/homebrew protection measures, so there is not yet a complete workaround for this system menu update. Better not to install for now.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:22AM kawaiipikachu said
Do you really want people to pirate ?
There are Software that let's play Pirate rips straight off a Harddrive.
So for this update it's a must update.
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There are Software that let's play Pirate rips straight off a Harddrive.
So for this update it's a must update.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:40AM (Unverified) said
There is also software to let you play music, legit games purchased overseas, and original games/apps like Harmonium and Mahjongg.
I always update through Nintendo as it usually only affects cIOS and pirate WADs, but this time they've gone that one step too far by removing the HBC too.
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I always update through Nintendo as it usually only affects cIOS and pirate WADs, but this time they've gone that one step too far by removing the HBC too.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:48PM TRTX said
It's sad that a site about an industry we all supposedly love will have so many commenters eager to just steal from the people who produce the content we play.
Hopefully downvoting and banhammers come fast and fierce to people using the Joystiq comment sections as a means of advertising their piracy methods.
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Hopefully downvoting and banhammers come fast and fierce to people using the Joystiq comment sections as a means of advertising their piracy methods.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:14PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
esposch
You are the exception and not the rule. The overwhelming majority of users with custom firmware/software be it on the PSP, DSi (cart), Wii, 360, PS3 etc is for nefarious purposes and stealing content. Just because someone uses legitimate features from a custom firmware/software install (playing music, dvds, circumventing region protecting) doesn't mean they also aren't stealing games.
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You are the exception and not the rule. The overwhelming majority of users with custom firmware/software be it on the PSP, DSi (cart), Wii, 360, PS3 etc is for nefarious purposes and stealing content. Just because someone uses legitimate features from a custom firmware/software install (playing music, dvds, circumventing region protecting) doesn't mean they also aren't stealing games.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:34AM (Unverified) said
@Kawaiipikachu
Please do not freely mix homebrew with piracy.
I do have homebrew as it allows me to play Quake1, SCUMMVM and with an Amiga Emulator.
As you can see I do not pirate any game yet I do use homebrew.
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Please do not freely mix homebrew with piracy.
I do have homebrew as it allows me to play Quake1, SCUMMVM and with an Amiga Emulator.
As you can see I do not pirate any game yet I do use homebrew.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 3:59PM boot2skull said
But isn't playing Quake1 and using an emulator the same thing as piracy, whether or not it qualifies as "homebrew"?
Homebrew is independently made games, software or tweaks that GENERALLY do not have copy restrictions, and therefore are free to distribute.
As far as I know, downloading and playing a copyrighted game that was not officially released for a system, like Quake, and playing copyrighted games via emulator, qualify as forms of piracy.
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Homebrew is independently made games, software or tweaks that GENERALLY do not have copy restrictions, and therefore are free to distribute.
As far as I know, downloading and playing a copyrighted game that was not officially released for a system, like Quake, and playing copyrighted games via emulator, qualify as forms of piracy.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:40AM (Unverified) said
lol that's me too i had a wiikey put in about a year ago. i haven't played one game that i didn't already own. well take that back i played chocobo dungeon for about 15 minutes.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:39AM (Unverified) said
You know there are people who use homebrew that don't pirate. In fact the Wii homebrew community has a pretty clear line of division between those who are trying to enable piracy and those who are not.
I know logically Nintendo has to throw the baby out with the bathwater when they do these updates. Cutting off moral homebrewers and pirates simultaneously, However people should not assume that someone is not buying WiiWare or Virtual Console games or even retail games just because someone uses BootMii/Homebrew Channel.
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I know logically Nintendo has to throw the baby out with the bathwater when they do these updates. Cutting off moral homebrewers and pirates simultaneously, However people should not assume that someone is not buying WiiWare or Virtual Console games or even retail games just because someone uses BootMii/Homebrew Channel.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:53AM kevinski said
Ugh...tell me about it. I can't stand letting that stupid slot glow for long periods of time, mainly because its glow doesn't occur very smoothly. It brightens smoothly, but it gets dimmer in a very jerky fashion.
I suppose that the most disappointing thing about Wii updates is that nothing interesting is really ever added. Really, would it kill them to spruce up that bland-looking menu or something? Or how about offering more channels that are a bit more than ways of mining data?
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I suppose that the most disappointing thing about Wii updates is that nothing interesting is really ever added. Really, would it kill them to spruce up that bland-looking menu or something? Or how about offering more channels that are a bit more than ways of mining data?
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 10:00AM darkinchworm said
Blue lights seem to assist me in my quest for slumber. I find them strangely soothing.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 9:44AM (Unverified) said
I am not supporting piracy but I am not against it as well. It's just a matter of choice. The main problem is that Nintendo considers homebrew = piracy.
There are very nice and useful homebrew apps and games out there and this update eliminates not just piracy but also homebrew as well.
In my opinion, all consoles should have built-in external OS support just like phat PS3 so that homebrew can be encouraged while piracy is prevented. However, what Ninendo does is not a proactive solution, the update just attacks homebrew and deletes it.
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There are very nice and useful homebrew apps and games out there and this update eliminates not just piracy but also homebrew as well.
In my opinion, all consoles should have built-in external OS support just like phat PS3 so that homebrew can be encouraged while piracy is prevented. However, what Ninendo does is not a proactive solution, the update just attacks homebrew and deletes it.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 11:09AM Dummy00001 said
> The main problem is that Nintendo considers homebrew = piracy.
> In my opinion, all consoles should have built-in external OS support just like phat PS3 so that homebrew can be encouraged while piracy is prevented.
Never going to happen since it is integral part of console business model: only few blessed by vendor (Nintendo, Sony, MS) publishers are allowed to have SDK (and fork money for the privilege) and only blessed applications are allowed to run.
Otherwise, you better off with a PC and e.g. http://www.indiegamemag.com/ + http://www.impulsedriven.com/ (not affiliated, but yes this is a plug for indie PC games). And it makes lots of sense since there are more PC users than console gamers.
Homebrew IMO is only interesting to people who can't imaging gaming on anything else but consoles.
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> In my opinion, all consoles should have built-in external OS support just like phat PS3 so that homebrew can be encouraged while piracy is prevented.
Never going to happen since it is integral part of console business model: only few blessed by vendor (Nintendo, Sony, MS) publishers are allowed to have SDK (and fork money for the privilege) and only blessed applications are allowed to run.
Otherwise, you better off with a PC and e.g. http://www.indiegamemag.com/ + http://www.impulsedriven.com/ (not affiliated, but yes this is a plug for indie PC games). And it makes lots of sense since there are more PC users than console gamers.
Homebrew IMO is only interesting to people who can't imaging gaming on anything else but consoles.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 10:23AM fasterthantheworld said
i hate this notion that homebrew users pirate their VC and WW games.
I have been using wii homebrew before the channel was even released and the closest thing i ever did to "pirating" a game was to install Dr. Mario Online RX early because it wasn't yet available in the US. The day it was released I deleted the ill-gotten copy and made my purchase to no regrets.
I also own about 30 other WW and VC titles combined.
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I have been using wii homebrew before the channel was even released and the closest thing i ever did to "pirating" a game was to install Dr. Mario Online RX early because it wasn't yet available in the US. The day it was released I deleted the ill-gotten copy and made my purchase to no regrets.
I also own about 30 other WW and VC titles combined.
Posted: Sep 29th 2009 10:45AM (Unverified) said
You used homebrew to pirate a game. That's all that really matters.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:33PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
Yup facts are facts and the bottom line is you exploited the console to pirate a game. You can make whatever excuses you like and give all the benevolant reasons in the world about the practical uses of homebrew but at the end of the day it's primary reason for existence and popularity is the fact it allows users to steal content.
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Posted: Sep 29th 2009 12:53PM fasterthantheworld said
sorry guys but i have to disagree. i didn't download the game as a "trial". i wasn't going to ever *not* buy it if i didn't like it. when i chose to download the game i made the decision as a purchase, and Nintendo got their 10 bucks as soon as they were ready to take it from me.
and as an aside, i didn't "exploit the console to pirate a game". I exploited the console to play homebrew titles.. which there's nothing wrong with.
look...i can admit i pirated my fair share back when i was in college, and i have no excuse for that other than i was broke(which is no excuse at all), but playing a game that's not yet available in your region when you FULLY INTEND to purchase it is not the same-at least on a moral level if not a legal one.
heck,.. i did the same thing with scribblenauts. it's the only commercial rom that EVER made it to my R4 card. I played the game 2 days early and then went and bought my copy at lunch the day it was available. i'm such a monster!!
seriously... give me a break.
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and as an aside, i didn't "exploit the console to pirate a game". I exploited the console to play homebrew titles.. which there's nothing wrong with.
look...i can admit i pirated my fair share back when i was in college, and i have no excuse for that other than i was broke(which is no excuse at all), but playing a game that's not yet available in your region when you FULLY INTEND to purchase it is not the same-at least on a moral level if not a legal one.
heck,.. i did the same thing with scribblenauts. it's the only commercial rom that EVER made it to my R4 card. I played the game 2 days early and then went and bought my copy at lunch the day it was available. i'm such a monster!!
seriously... give me a break.
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