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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 5:34PM Uncle Jesse said

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That screen shot looks very Shadow Complex-y.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:11PM (Unverified) said

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I know right? Epic totally invinted this genre *blows on Contra cart*
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:15PM Uncle Jesse said

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Don't get all worked up over nothing now. I never mentioned anything about anyone inventing a genre. Just look at the picks and tell me what you think it resembles most and get back to me when you're finished blowing things.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 7:03PM Aquajolt said

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First thing I thought of, good call. Considering the first Matt Hazard blew too hard to get that cartridge working again, being Shadow Complex-y is a great thing.

To defend Uncle Jesse comparing Contra to Shadow Complex is like comparing Netscape to Google Chrome. . . . get over it.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 8:50PM Mal F4cti0n said

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Poor man's Shadow Complex-y
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 5:40PM (Unverified) said

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I think Matt Hazard will be more enjoyable as a sidescroller.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 5:47PM HeavyToka said

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Agreed
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:24PM Uncle Jesse said

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Same.
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 9:31AM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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This.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 5:48PM TheDarkWayne said

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Ugh, what a colossal disappointment that was
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 5:59PM 33PercentGod said

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Eat Lead was so much fun and a hilarious game.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:00PM whymog said

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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 7:54PM DBuckEye said

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Aw, I was just about to say that!
If I had gun, I'd shoot you.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 8:14PM whymog said

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Yeah, well, you don't.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:05PM Levi said

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I dunno Joystiq, considering this is a different genre, I'd give it a shot. I'm always game for more sidescrollers, and a couple of these screens look promising! Is that a Mirror's Edge reference?

RoMH is still on my list despite the bad reviews. Anybody got an extra copy for PS3 laying around? :D
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:12PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:14PM Pure Black World Tendency said

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Are you in Europe by any chance? This game is dirt cheap on play:

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/8858152/Eat-Lead-The-Return-Of-Matt-Hazard/Product.html

Not that I'd ever want it, but to each his own. ;)
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:38PM Vordus said

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Hold on... Are those Mounties in the Mirror's Edge environment?
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 7:15PM Levi said

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Yeah, I think they are mounties... That's actually pretty funny hahah imagine Mirror's Edge 2: Canada Future!
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:41PM pibs said

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Blood, Bath and Beyond sounds like an awesome store.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:48PM (Unverified) said

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Does anyone at all care about Matt Hazard?
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 9:31PM Bubbameister33 said

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Obviously someone does.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 6:49PM 1251 said

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While all other sites rightfully call Epic out for not separating themselves from Metroidvania- Joystiq takes it upon themselves to think Shadow Complex should be given credit.

No, Crash Commando didn't utilize this feature nearly an entire year before SC or anything, and no EPOS wasn't able to create an awesome multiplayer game with it or anything. Epic did it all, apparently.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 9:09PM AoE said

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wait... what? Did you forget your meds today? What are you jabbering on about? There is no mention of SC anywhere in the story.... where does this jibba-jabba come from? Some random commenter mentioning it looks like a game they've most likely played before instead of mentioning one they haven't?

Look dude I hate to burst your bubble. But the side-scroller is not new, the 3d sidescrolling metroidvania game isn't even new. For example, you remember Terminal Reality's BlowOut, right? I assume you do, for all the rage and indignation you bring to bear here I would expect you've played every game in this genre. Speaking of which, why don't you tell us about the 3D metroidvania style titles that came before BlowOut? You know what they are, right? If not, why are you being so huffy and acting like an expert?
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 1:23AM Powerlord said

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@AoE: "Darkened Structure" links to the shadow-complex tag.

Anyway, the reason Joystiq references Shadow Complex specifically is because of the "enemies in the background that can shoot at you" bit that Metroid and Casltevania don't have. This mechanic is clearly present in these screenshots.
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 2:57PM 1251 said

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^Crash Commando HAS the 3D shooting from the background! You can go into FPS on the turret, and of course from the other perspective, someones shooting you from the other side of the map!

Just pointin' it out, wasn't in a fit of anger like AOE suggests..
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 7:00PM Gaming Expert said

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If they release this for disk I'll buy it but not on digital download (I rarely buy those).
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 7:05PM 1251 said

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In the post, it clearly states it's coming to Live and PSN.

To print out covers, instruction manuals, even the discs- this title may be deemed a commercial failure, if Joystiq's bias doesn't deem it so already.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 8:50PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, Joystiq's bias. Not just that the other game was a total flop and not very good too.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 7:37PM LOUiECOG said

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"click for high-res gallery ... of Matt Hazard"

Loved that caption! I was laughing hard at that.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 7:53PM ch3burashka said

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From full game to XBLA? If this doesn't work, where can they go then?
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 8:08PM (Unverified) said

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ASCII-based Rougelike.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 8:15PM MrKlorox said

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Er...Joystiq. I'm almost certain it's not supposed to be Blood (COMMA) Bath and Beyond. It's supposed to be pronounced BloodBath (like a bath of blood) and Beyond.

Sigh.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 8:57PM Mal F4cti0n said

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I am sure that it is Blood, Bath and Beyond as in "Bed, Bath and Beyond"...it is a play on words as in Play On Words.

Wow.....sigh.....must we explain everything to the dumb?


Thought the best is when the dumb try and correct the smart and do it in a snide manner.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 9:13PM AoE said

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@Mal F4cti0n,

No... we really don't need to. To be honest, I think it's actually a lot more fun to watch them make asses of themselves and learn the hard way.

However, since you're correcting someone else, it makes you fair game... I think you left an extra "t" at the end of "Though" ;)
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 11:52PM Mal F4cti0n said

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That was not me....that was my keyboard.


And spelling mistakes on threads don't count as "being dumb".
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 5:33AM MrKlorox said

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No fucking shit it's a pun. Duuhhh. Thank you captain goddamn obvious.

I personally find it laughable that every tiny little detail must be disclaimed in explicit detail so the norms who think they're actual cognitive beings can comprehend.

Wow. I thought it was obvious in my post that I FUCKING GOT THE SHITTY PUN.

Think outside of that port-a-potty you call a brain for once, Joystiq simps.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 9:41PM Jack Tretton said

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Oh, yeah, like the guy in the $3,000 suit will come back to voice the sequel, COME ON!
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 10:10PM (Unverified) said

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he made a huge mistake voicing the first one
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 12:29AM whymog said

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Look at sequel, Michael!
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 8:55AM Jack Tretton said

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+8 to whymog.

Yesterday morning the line "Look at banner, Michael," popped into my head for some unknown reason.
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 1:17PM Akronon said

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+8 to all three of you.

I'm pretty sure he's taken some forget-me-nots so he won't remember the first one and won't have to taste the sad anymore.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 10:30PM (Unverified) said

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the original had an AWESOME premise, and a hilarious backstory. the game itself was... playable. not good. playable. BUT, it had Will Arnett and NPH, which made it amazing. plus, the game ejaculated trophies all over my hard drive. and this looks like shadow complex... so... i might check it out. maybe. if it has NPH in it.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 10:57PM Jacksons said

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I still like the idea of the franchise, even if the first one wasn't that special in execution. I'll buy it.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2009 11:14PM sirpilf said

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http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodbath_&_Beyond_Gun_Shop

they just ripped an episode of the simpsons off with the title. the gun store where homer buys his hand gun in season 9, i beeeelieve episode 4 is called blood bath and beyond.

what a rip off.
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 1:19PM Akronon said

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I think it may be a parody of Uncharted instead of Trine.
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 10:55AM SuperA187 said

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I WANT THIS GAME! The last one was great!
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Posted: Oct 2nd 2009 11:49AM Darkangel269 said

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I liked Eat Lead. It was fun, funny, and kind of original in the same way Airplane (the movie) was.
I will probably check this one out.
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