We can't seem to stop waffling on Epic Mickey. At the start, Warren Spector's involvement was enough to pique our interest. But we couldn't help but be a bit disappointed to see that Wii exclusivity might keep the game from being the graphical masterpiece we'd hoped for. But now, after reading a few details about the game scooped up by Eurogamer, we're right back on board.
The game reportedly revolves around forgotten Disney characters who, after years of being ignored, have grown bitter. None more so than Walt's first cartoon creation, Oswald the Rabbit. He's the one who spread all of the evil black goo around that you see above. Mickey will apparently have to use paint, thinner and erasers to draw his way through the world, which makes the Wii exclusivity a lot easier to understand.
Okay, so the black goo all over the world isn't the most original, but disgruntled Disney characters trying to wipe out Mickey? How cool does that sound?
(P.S. Captain EO as a villain. We demand it.)
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Posted: Oct 6th 2009 7:13PM (Unverified) said
No Wii hate... but this might be the first time I turn on my Wii in recent months. I'm stoked.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 7:16PM TRONdll said
Captain EO, TRON, and Inspector Gadget (technically owned by Buena Vista Entertainment which is a subsidiary of Disney).
I will effing crap my pants if they are in this game.
I will effing crap my pants if they are in this game.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 7:21PM mrmobius said
Now we also need someone to get onto the phone and get us a 2D fighter of Disney vs Warner and we're sorted.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 7:31PM mikec89 said
Anyone got a link to that pic with a higher res?
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 7:33PM (Unverified) said
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 7:45PM Elorian said
Are you guys kidding? Those games are complete borefests from a graphical standpoint.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 7:52PM RedrumnCoke said
If you gave a talented artist 4 crayons, he could still draw more impressively than the average idiot with a 64 box of Crayola. Point being, additional tools will always be helpful to an artist, but it still comes down to skill and creativity more than anything else. Please don't confuse graphical hardware capability with artistic direction (which I consider more important than the number of enemies on screen or the view distance).
Posted: Oct 7th 2009 12:45PM Giroro said
You only have half the analogy (more like three-quarters):
If you gave that same talented artist a big box of Prismacolors, and he will beat the living shit out of his 4 crayon drawing while still maintaining the artistic direction. A good artist becomes a better artist given the right tools, so why just give him 4 crayons when a box of colored pencils is available?
I swear, every time a Wii game comes up there are a lot of Wii graphical defenders acting like the same game output at a higher resolution would somehow destroy the artistic style (not necessarily you redrum). It seems that confusing graphical hardware capabilities and artistic direction can go both ways though.
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If you gave that same talented artist a big box of Prismacolors, and he will beat the living shit out of his 4 crayon drawing while still maintaining the artistic direction. A good artist becomes a better artist given the right tools, so why just give him 4 crayons when a box of colored pencils is available?
I swear, every time a Wii game comes up there are a lot of Wii graphical defenders acting like the same game output at a higher resolution would somehow destroy the artistic style (not necessarily you redrum). It seems that confusing graphical hardware capabilities and artistic direction can go both ways though.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 7:53PM Vegeta has a ps3 said
"Okay, so the black goo all over the world isn't the most original, but disgruntled Disney characters trying to wipe out Mickey? How cool does that sound?"
Sounds very cool. I like that idea of using forgotten old disney characters as villains instead of using the many disney villains from the more popular disney films, or Pete.
Personally I think this game can work graphically provided that the developers know what they're doing. If they're talented enough, they can work around the limitations of the Wii and make something that looks amazing. I really can't wait to see a trailer for this.
Sounds very cool. I like that idea of using forgotten old disney characters as villains instead of using the many disney villains from the more popular disney films, or Pete.
Personally I think this game can work graphically provided that the developers know what they're doing. If they're talented enough, they can work around the limitations of the Wii and make something that looks amazing. I really can't wait to see a trailer for this.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 7:55PM STiger said
I just had a thought...
What if Epic Mickey was inspired by the recent acquisition of Marvel?
What if Epic Mickey was inspired by the recent acquisition of Marvel?
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:37PM The Blank Mage Returns said
Yeah, I thought the same thing. We all thought Disney was gonna neuter Marvel, but no one expected Marvel to make Disney badass.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 9:48AM darkinchworm said
That's waaaaaay too recent to have influenced this
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Posted: Oct 6th 2009 7:57PM mrln said
I lol'd at the premise.
Epic Mickey will be epic.
Epic Mickey will be epic.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:17PM Jricanrod1 said
Joystiq forgot to mention about the Phantom Blot.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:19PM DavyRush said
I demmand to have the Horned King from The Black Cauldron as a main antagonist!!!
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:19PM (Unverified) said
Characters from Song of the South still won't be featured in this game, Disney has forgotten it on purpose and will never dare mention it again.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:30PM Levi Partridge said
I think it is interesting that Oswald the Rabbit is being used as the main nemesis for this game. Oswald was Disney's first and last creation before he started his own animation studio, and it wasn't until recently that Disney Studios was able to get the character back. It's pretty strange that company's first use of the guy since the acquisition is a villain.
It's be funny if in the game you rescue Oswald from a tyrannical Woody Woodpecker and team up with him to destroy Universal Studios.
It's be funny if in the game you rescue Oswald from a tyrannical Woody Woodpecker and team up with him to destroy Universal Studios.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 11:14PM (Unverified) said
Thank you.
That was the absolute first thing I thought when I saw Oswald as a villain.
With the exception of Maltin's Disney Treasures Line and a t-shirt (That I'm currently wearing I hasten to add), I haven't seen much Oswald property available through regular retail channels.
I've got a sinking feeling it'll turn out that the black goo controlled Oswald and is ultimately controlled by either the Disney Villains line or something completely non-Disney related.
I'll be extremely pissed off (As a Disney fan) if the forgotten characters consisted of the syndicated Disney afternoon shows like someone suggested.
I want some Silly Symphonies characters, preferably Little Hiawatha. Bring some Lambert and Ferdinand, then we're talking. Hell, I'd even take some super imposed Alice (From the Alice Comedies).
This is an excellent opportunity (aside from the disappointing Oswald villain news) to bring back the cartoons that made Disney what it is today.
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That was the absolute first thing I thought when I saw Oswald as a villain.
With the exception of Maltin's Disney Treasures Line and a t-shirt (That I'm currently wearing I hasten to add), I haven't seen much Oswald property available through regular retail channels.
I've got a sinking feeling it'll turn out that the black goo controlled Oswald and is ultimately controlled by either the Disney Villains line or something completely non-Disney related.
I'll be extremely pissed off (As a Disney fan) if the forgotten characters consisted of the syndicated Disney afternoon shows like someone suggested.
I want some Silly Symphonies characters, preferably Little Hiawatha. Bring some Lambert and Ferdinand, then we're talking. Hell, I'd even take some super imposed Alice (From the Alice Comedies).
This is an excellent opportunity (aside from the disappointing Oswald villain news) to bring back the cartoons that made Disney what it is today.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:32PM (Unverified) said
Sigh. I'm going to have to get a Wii now, aren't I?
*looks for space on gaming shelf, surge protector.*
*looks for space on gaming shelf, surge protector.*
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:34PM The Blank Mage Returns said
Of course, his plans of world domination and ethnic cleansing are coming to fruition.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:42PM justinslot said
Hee hee--Oswald was the character they traded Al Michaels for. Good to see they're already getting some use out of him.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:51PM Yatcho said
Anyone think Marvel characters will show up?
Posted: Oct 7th 2009 11:05AM samfish said
No it isn't. This game has been in development for like 2 years, at least (that's about when Sprector started talking about making a "Mario killer" with Mickey in it, IIRC)
It's WAAAAAY too late to include the recently acquired Marvel characters. Even if they DID shoehorn them in (and going by the plot, 'shoehorn' is exactly what it would be), at this point all the legal wranglings with the Marvel properties are still being worked out and resolved, compounding the unlikelihood of Spider-Man or Dazzler of something showing up.
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It's WAAAAAY too late to include the recently acquired Marvel characters. Even if they DID shoehorn them in (and going by the plot, 'shoehorn' is exactly what it would be), at this point all the legal wranglings with the Marvel properties are still being worked out and resolved, compounding the unlikelihood of Spider-Man or Dazzler of something showing up.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:52PM bongoes said
"On top of that is a healthy dose of exploration, plus Mickey will be getting "his first makeover in years". "That's why no one's seen his face yet," our source explained, "But he's far more retro than you've seen him for years.""
Retro Mickey? OH YEAH!
Seriously, after seeing pictures of the old Mickey again I can't even look at modern Mickey.
Retro Mickey? OH YEAH!
Seriously, after seeing pictures of the old Mickey again I can't even look at modern Mickey.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 8:54PM (Unverified) said
Power or not this game is art.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 9:05PM JDBar said
It's like Walt Disney himself screaming to the world "God damn! You filled my television broadcasting station with horrible shows! And you dare taint my name with those disgraces Hannah Montana and Jonas Brothers? THIS IS MADNESS!"
Then he resurrects demonic Disney characters and they all arise from the soil with evil smirks and glowing red eyes.
And Walt screams... "ATTAAAACK!"
Zack, Cody, Hannah Montana, and all those people get stabbed in the face by Disney characters and their corpses are used to build Walt's throne.
In some twisted rapacious movement, Walt creates an army of cartoons and attempts to take over the world. The Soviet Union of Walt overpowers all of Eur-Asia, and eventually the entire world. Almost nothing remains but a hellish wasteland of charred and burning remains.
Walt would be the embodiment of Satan himself, his characters being his spawn.
And in the end, we would be the helpless slaves serving him until the end of time.
Th-th-th-th-th-th-that's all folks!
Wait... that was Warner Bros...
Damn.
Then he resurrects demonic Disney characters and they all arise from the soil with evil smirks and glowing red eyes.
And Walt screams... "ATTAAAACK!"
Zack, Cody, Hannah Montana, and all those people get stabbed in the face by Disney characters and their corpses are used to build Walt's throne.
In some twisted rapacious movement, Walt creates an army of cartoons and attempts to take over the world. The Soviet Union of Walt overpowers all of Eur-Asia, and eventually the entire world. Almost nothing remains but a hellish wasteland of charred and burning remains.
Walt would be the embodiment of Satan himself, his characters being his spawn.
And in the end, we would be the helpless slaves serving him until the end of time.
Th-th-th-th-th-th-that's all folks!
Wait... that was Warner Bros...
Damn.
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 9:31PM The Blank Mage Returns said
I'm torn between downvoting you for being retarded, or upvoting you for being retarded.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 9:06AM (Unverified) said
yeah.. but you know you wanna fuck Hannah Montana
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Posted: Oct 6th 2009 9:54PM rxil said
when i first saw the image i thought there was a bow in his hand....
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 10:07PM cliftonJONES said
why so much hate? Kingdom Hearts is awesome and it's filled with Disney characters(and maybe soon Marvel characters, also)...the title is hot, the concept of the story is hot, but the only thing that will probably prevent me from buying it is the fact that it's on the wii...a game that sounds as promising as that should be multi-platform; i mean, it does sound darker than a "typical" Disney game...
Posted: Oct 6th 2009 10:43PM The Blank Mage Returns said
It IS the now. Walt faked his own death. That was the end of Phase 1. NOW were starting Phase 3. Get with it, man!
Posted: Oct 7th 2009 2:02AM jrr said
Wasn't there an Animaniacs episode with a similar premise? Something like an old black and white character that wanted to get revenge on all the new characters because he had fallen to the wayside. I might be wrong in assuming it was in Animaniacs, but I'm almost certain I remember an episode of some cartoon like this, and it's killing me not being able to specifically remember it. Any help?
(BTW, I'm not saying this game is a rip-off of whatever I'm thinking of, so no need to go on a crusade about that.)
(BTW, I'm not saying this game is a rip-off of whatever I'm thinking of, so no need to go on a crusade about that.)
Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:15AM jrr said
Thaaaat's right. It's starting to come back to me now. I think during that final speech the Warners ended up saying something appreciative about the old character, which got him all teary-eyed and made him realize he didn't need any revenge. Thanks for letting me know I wasn't crazy.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 12:02PM Giroro said
*crosses fingers for Darkwing Duck*
Posted: Oct 7th 2009 12:50PM Giroro said
Walt didn't fake his death, Disney just figured out a way to resuscitate his frozen brain.
Posted: Oct 7th 2009 1:06PM Giroro said
*Just Realized that the Phantom Blot is an obscure/forgotten Disney character*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Blot
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/creators/fg1939.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Blot
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/creators/fg1939.gif
Posted: Oct 7th 2009 9:41PM RedrumnCoke said
I do agree that if given equally talented artists, the one with the better tools would generally prevail. However, I still believe the tools at hand are secondary to skill, so I find it odd that everyone always looks at hardware first. If we are going to worry about how this game will look, let's first look at the artists that will be handling the project and make sure that they are proficient enough for the task of bringing Mickey to the video screen in a creative yet recognizable way.
Posted: Oct 7th 2009 11:41PM megas88 said
Ok, no flamming me please. I will try to be as civil as possible. I have let all flammable comments out before making this post. I hope lol.
So, The plot. Where do I start except it really doesn't appeal to me. True, matter of opinion. And that's where it will fall on. Weather or not they can land on a positive opinion of this game. It's the only way they can actually make this game sell more than a small percentage of copies of the game.
This is my next comment. And yet again. Matter of opinion. Although simply reading the plot and veiwing some screenshots you might be inclined to agree with me. This game has done what I thought to be the most impossible thing ever. I honestly thought pixar would do it first if they haven't already. But this game and from what I've seen have made classic disney characters and these are characters that all who have ever been a child or are a child know to be completely and ridiculously unapealing. I know I keep using that word but it's really the only one I can think of while trying to keep this as simple as possible. And nice as well.
If it's an attempt at recreating kingdom hearts hype then good for them. That game turned out more epic than most games i own. If this is another cash in attempt than are you really all that surprised? It's disney.
Personally I've heard of but never played any of the creators games. I know I'll be flamed for that since I have no grounds for juding this title. But I believe that's a reason why I can so easily see it. I don't judge a game based on it's graphics. Put halo on an atari and i'll be freaking happy with it. Just make it fun and engaging for me. Good story and good gameplay. That's all I ask for. Story's not cutting it for me but then again the gameplay might surprise me and many other disbelievers. Hey, sum up Kingdom Heart's plot line in a single sentence and tell me you wouldn't have second thoughts on getting the game. Yet, it turned out to be one of the most fun rpg games ever.
Now, to all I have offended being anyone who likes the designs, game, and especially the creator I am sorry. But this game just does not look like it'll live up to what you all are making it sound to be.
So, The plot. Where do I start except it really doesn't appeal to me. True, matter of opinion. And that's where it will fall on. Weather or not they can land on a positive opinion of this game. It's the only way they can actually make this game sell more than a small percentage of copies of the game.
This is my next comment. And yet again. Matter of opinion. Although simply reading the plot and veiwing some screenshots you might be inclined to agree with me. This game has done what I thought to be the most impossible thing ever. I honestly thought pixar would do it first if they haven't already. But this game and from what I've seen have made classic disney characters and these are characters that all who have ever been a child or are a child know to be completely and ridiculously unapealing. I know I keep using that word but it's really the only one I can think of while trying to keep this as simple as possible. And nice as well.
If it's an attempt at recreating kingdom hearts hype then good for them. That game turned out more epic than most games i own. If this is another cash in attempt than are you really all that surprised? It's disney.
Personally I've heard of but never played any of the creators games. I know I'll be flamed for that since I have no grounds for juding this title. But I believe that's a reason why I can so easily see it. I don't judge a game based on it's graphics. Put halo on an atari and i'll be freaking happy with it. Just make it fun and engaging for me. Good story and good gameplay. That's all I ask for. Story's not cutting it for me but then again the gameplay might surprise me and many other disbelievers. Hey, sum up Kingdom Heart's plot line in a single sentence and tell me you wouldn't have second thoughts on getting the game. Yet, it turned out to be one of the most fun rpg games ever.
Now, to all I have offended being anyone who likes the designs, game, and especially the creator I am sorry. But this game just does not look like it'll live up to what you all are making it sound to be.






