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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:06PM (Unverified) said

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It's so sad that Naughty Dog essentially left this series for dead for Uncharted. I always preferred the Jak series a little more, and I knew when this was announced for psp and a different developer that it wasn't going to end well. It's a shame.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 10:04AM tveye said

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Well, they did the same for Crash Bandicoot, and look what happened to that series.
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Posted: Oct 10th 2009 10:45AM NathanDTS said

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Crash 2 is my favourite game ever and after Naughty Dog gave Crash away I was so pissed off. Twinsanity was bad enough but when Crash of the titans came out, my soul died. Spyro had the same story except instead of my soul going 6 feet under, it was my appendix.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:09PM NaeemTHM said

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Noooooo! Damn you to hell High Impact Games. You have sullied what was once a AAA franchise.

I hope Naughty Dog does a DMC2 and pretends this game never happened.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:11PM primetime4 said

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What's RAD up to these days? Can they dig their PSP dev kits out of the trash?
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:11PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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With any luck Naughty Dog will jump in and make the next one. Bringing the Franchise to PS3 and ND doing it will make it a classic for sure
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:13PM BLipp18 said

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didnt jak always have a double jump and spin that did very little to help going far distances?
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:17PM (Unverified) said

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That's really disappointing, I've been waiting for years for the next Jak game and I actually thought this one could be good, but after reading this I'll have to give it a miss.

Hopefully Naughty Dog will take a break from the (brilliant) Uncharted series after the release of Among Thieves and they'll get to work on making a current-gen console sequel to Jak 3
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Posted: Oct 10th 2009 3:33AM ptcamn said

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@SpiderMike

"Yeah it's ironic I have a picture from a motion picture in a series of 3 that has literally made multi-millions to the production company as well as the film makers themselves. That's exactly the kind of action that forces people to shut up shop and not make any more. Oh no wait...that's just Naughty Dog.

Lovely way to go off topic considering the motion picture industy and the games industry run their affairs in 2 totally different ways."

So what you are saying is that Naughty Dog should follow the lead of Hollywood in doing the same crap over and over and milk a franchise for as long as they can (such as Spiderman which should have been left at 2 instead of already announcing two more movies after the disaster that was the last one) instead of doing their own thing and creating something new and original.

Or for that matter Team Ico should have done just a direct sequel to Ico rather than creating a whole new experience with Shadow of the Colossus. After all the first game worked fine, right? And Sucker Punch should have stayed with Sly Cooper for as long as the company exists because it was a great game last gen instead of giving us Infamous? Why bother innovating and trying something new is your premise?

I have to disagree. The Jak series was great and it will live in my memory and my library. If ND decides to do a new game I'll certainly enjoy it but as it stands I am glad they created something new. Not only they created one of the best games ever but also one of the best characters, surpassing even previous work. The company wasn't afraid to move on from Crash when they lost the rights, and they did the same moving on from Jak to Nathan. Each time they created something new and more exciting. I certainly didn't want to go back to a new Crash after playing Jak and the same happens with Nathan now. I can say for sure that with the amazing quality Naughty Dog has put in each generation I am certainly excited about the prospects of what they will put out once they decide to move on from Uncharted.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2009 4:41AM ptcamn said

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Sorry Raider. My last comment was posted in the wrong place.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:27PM (Unverified) said

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I, too, am disgusted how ND left J&D to die while they continued with that bastard creation of a game, Uncharted.

The J&D series was a staple of greatness on the PS2 and proudly stood toe to toe with Ratchet & Clank, despite the latter having various incarnation more than the former.

It's a shame when devs let their own franchises die. In a sense giving the finger to the fanbase they have already built up. I Hope they don't pick it back up and just let it go out with a wheeze at the hands of some second rate PSP devs.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:49PM Kodros said

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"It's a shame when devs let their own franchises die. In a sense giving the finger to the fanbase they have already built up."

So, what you are saying is that devs should milk the crap out of their franchises until they are so generic and boring that nobody cares anymore? Kinda ironic that you have a Spiderman 3 avatar pic eh?
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:55PM Digital Viking said

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I think it's a difference between letting a franchise die with a game which was one of the best in the last gen, rather then just letting second class developers making a bad PSP game, just for the hell of it.
They should just have left the series with Jak 3 (possibly Jak X, 'cause I enjoyed it), and not letting others continuing it.

And in response to the milking: How long have Nintendo milked the hell out of Mario and Zelda? Seems like that's 'ok'.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:57PM (Unverified) said

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I think they should have done Uncharted and then a new Jak game, do we really need Uncharted 2 already?
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 4:04PM SoulBlade said

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CTC - yes.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 4:45PM Kodros said

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"do we really need Uncharted 2 already?"

That's like asking, "Do we really need another incredibly fun game already?". See how dumb that sounds =) Also..."already"? It's been 2 years since Uncharted: Drakes Fortune. How long do you want them to space them apart?
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 5:12PM (Unverified) said

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"That's like asking, "Do we really need another incredibly fun game already?""

No it's not, as I said I would have liked to see them do a PS3 Jak game...which given there past history would have been an incredibly fun game.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 5:16AM (Unverified) said

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@ Kodros

Yeah it's ironic I have a picture from a motion picture in a series of 3 that has literally made multi-millions to the production company as well as the film makers themselves. That's exactly the kind of action that forces people to shut up shop and not make any more. Oh no wait...that's just Naughty Dog.

Lovely way to go off topic considering the motion picture industy and the games industry run their affairs in 2 totally different ways.

At least we now know YOUR avatar stands for something. U talk complete bullshit. Back under your rock, troll.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2009 6:55AM ptcamn said

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@SpiderMike

"Yeah it's ironic I have a picture from a motion picture in a series of 3 that has literally made multi-millions to the production company as well as the film makers themselves. That's exactly the kind of action that forces people to shut up shop and not make any more. Oh no wait...that's just Naughty Dog.

Lovely way to go off topic considering the motion picture industy and the games industry run their affairs in 2 totally different ways."

So what you are saying is that Naughty Dog should follow the lead of Hollywood in doing the same crap over and over and milk a franchise for as long as they can (such as Spiderman which should have been left at 2 instead of already announcing two more movies after the disaster that was the last one) instead of doing their own thing and creating something new and original.

Or for that matter Team Ico should have done just a direct sequel to Ico rather than creating a whole new experience with Shadow of the Colossus. After all the first game worked fine, right? And Sucker Punch should have stayed with Sly Cooper for as long as the company exists because it was a great game last gen instead of giving us Infamous? Why bother innovating and trying something new is your premise?

I have to disagree. The Jak series was great and it will live in my memory and my library. If ND decides to do a new game I'll certainly enjoy it but as it stands I am glad they created something new. Not only they created one of the best games ever but also one of the best characters, surpassing even previous work. The company wasn't afraid to move on from Crash when they lost the rights, and they did the same moving on from Jak to Nathan. Each time they created something new and more exciting. I certainly didn't want to go back to a new Crash after playing Jak and the same happens with Nathan now. I can say for sure that with the amazing quality Naughty Dog has put in each generation I am certainly excited about the prospects of what they will put out once they decide to move on from Uncharted.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:28PM (Unverified) said

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Damn it. Well I'll likely get it anyways because it is quite cheap, and I've been waiting for a new Jak game for ages.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:30PM Nier said

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This makes me so sad. The Jak series was one of my favorite series last gen and to hear that it's long awaited sequel is not up to par is kind of heartbreaking.

This also made me realize that when I was addicted to gaming a several years ago, I totally sold the first three Jak games in order to buy other games from Gamestop. I really regret that decision now.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:31PM TheDarkWayne said

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Damn, Jak 3 is one of my favorite games of all time, this is downright crushing to hear this sucks. I really really hope Naughty Dog picks it back up sometime, I wouldn't want to divert them away from Uncharted, but they're a pretty big studio they should be able to have 2 teams right? : (
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 5:22PM s ls said

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from the behind the scenes video from Uncharted 1 ND seems like a pretty small group of people, their offices seems tiny in the tour and guess what they actually have a dog in the office how cool is that.

Naughty Dog isnt like an insomniac which probably has much more people of staff to split between series.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:33PM Digital Viking said

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I don't know how different Naughty Dog is from Insomniac in terms of company size, but I imagine them being very alike. But Insomniac manages to juggle between their cartoony PS2 game, and their new PS3 franchise. I don't see why Naughty Dog shouldn't be able to do the same.

I demand a PS3 Jak game with Naughty Dog's name on it!
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:39PM (Unverified) said

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Wiki says Insomniac has aprox 180 employees and Naughty Dog has 100. Don't know if that is accurate anymore since Insomniac has formed the new studio this year.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:40PM BLipp18 said

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iirc, iG has like 150+ ppl, and they have like 3 teams, and i think ND has around 100 and as far as we all know, all of them were focused on U2, plus ND is sonys big PS3 engine creator and helps other devs with the PS3, so they might have the resources for more than 1 game at a time
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 6:51PM Ashitaka said

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cartoony PS2 game? Are you fucking kidding me? More like pixar-esque PLAYSTATION3 game
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 10:41PM Jacksons said

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What's with the Ratchet hate? That franchise is incredible.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:10AM (Unverified) said

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Oh, sure, it's not like they didn't want to continue it! But they stuck to their promise, and they gave up and handed it over to HIG.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:46PM (Unverified) said

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Jak 3 is probably the best choice. Jak 2 was the hardest one and the first was pure platformer, thus different from the later two.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:46PM JuanLovesHorror said

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That's not too surprising.Hopefully the series won't be to ruined after this game so maybe Naughty can come back to it unlike Crash.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 4:13PM BLipp18 said

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well, not much they could have done about crash, he was owned by universal/sierra (now activision) and they were bought by sony
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:46PM (Unverified) said

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The first one, it was the best one.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:50PM darkinchworm said

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Hell, why not buy all three? They're all quite entertaining and shouldn't be too much of an expense by now, especially if you (gasp) buy them used.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:51PM (Unverified) said

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The first one is nothing special at all, it's just your typical 3D platformer. Start with 2 and then 3 if you care about the story, both are great games though.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 3:59PM Digital Viking said

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The first is a straight up platformer for everyone with a mute hero and a sidekick doing all the talking. Jak 2 took a 180 turn, going for a more grown up style, with GTA like city and is a platform shooter, same for Jak 3.

I'd say you should start with Jak 2, it's the longest and is very important for the story. Jak 3 is kinda short, but a more polished game.
Buy both
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 4:42PM darkinchworm said

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In response to that: Memory cards, my friend. Memory cards.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 4:51PM No Kill Tayler said

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If it receives at least 7 or an 8 from any review outlets, i'll be downloading this.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 5:30PM Alex McKee said

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From PSN, I hope?
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 11:31PM No Kill Tayler said

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Naturally.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 4:53PM (Unverified) said

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Big fan of Jak games, but I really hope they don't ruin the storyline , but it's a Jak game so I'm buying it. Hope Naughty Dog takes back Jak and Daxter for another game.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 5:05PM ovenmittman said

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This is the same exact thing that happened to Crash Bandicoot. Naughty Dog gave up the rights to some other company, and there is a continuous stream of crappy Crash games now. The classic PS1 Naughty Dog Crash games were great.

Seems like Jak and Daxter is going the same way. It's following a pattern.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 5:40PM Digital Viking said

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Naughty Dog never owned all the rights to Crash, so when they didn't want to develop Crash more, Vivendi gave the rights to whoever wanted it. But Naughty Dog is the only owner of Jak if I remember correctly, if they want, they can still make a Jak 4. But Jak won't do as bad as Crash.

In terms of following a patterns, the last Uncharted game ND makes will be Uncharted 4, and it will be a racer. (Jak X and Crash Team Racing were all the 4. and last ND games)
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 5:10PM SolidSnakeEyes said

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Message received: Do not buy.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 6:45PM LuTon James said

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I love the Uncharted frachise but I beg you Naughty Dog, please do another Jak, just one for old times sake?
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 10:48PM Jacksons said

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Yeah, start with 3. Jak 2 is a train wreck, in my opinion. You spend the majority of the time wandering around a needlessly huge city. There's very little to see or do in the city, it just eats up a ton of time going to the next location. The only reason I kept playing 2 was to see what Daxter would do in the next cutscene.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2009 11:04PM Erdie said

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This was the one big Sony franchise that I never cared for despite owning all the games. If I want a straight-up platformer, I'll play Mario or Sly. Shooter/platformer with great characters, that's all Ratchet. Sandbox, that's GTA's turf. Jak played like a mash-up of all three, but wasn't great at being any of them in my opinion, especially once they attempted a "dark" story, which made Daxter seem way out of place.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:23AM (Unverified) said

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They didn't want to kill of jak by handing him over to those butcherers that ruined ratchet and clank, they WANTED to limit it to ONE trilogy, and TWO spinoffs! But after soooo much fucking pressure, they handed it over to the douches known as high impact games! Well, I hope you're happy. You all killed jak!
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:49AM Digital Viking said

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Considering that "Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier" was discovered in the U.S Patent Office way back in May 2006, I think it's more to it then the fans pressuring Naughty Dog.
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