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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:34PM Turles said

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Either way, I hope the Aussies get to play some zombie killing goodness. Any self-respecting Australian will just import the game anyway. And I'm sure modders will release horrifying models for the edited version.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:11PM Haggard said

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I think retail games that have to be registered on Steam are region-locked, so they may not be able to import. I'm sure there'll be plenty of ways around the OFLC to stick it to Atkinson anyway.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 9:38PM thesillyoldbear said

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I know me and my friends will be importing from the UK, which means the bad news isn't bad at all. With an edited version being released here the game will be less likely to be on customs watch lists and therefor easier to import the unedited copy from dvd.co.uk or wherever.
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Posted: Oct 9th 2009 5:10AM AntiVillian said

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watchlists? you got a few things wrong.
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Posted: Oct 9th 2009 10:47AM thesillyoldbear said

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Like what exactly? Please enlighten me.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:37PM nighttime said

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I'm 27 years old. I can handle it. I'll just import it from the uk.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:26PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said

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Good man :D
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 9:41PM thesillyoldbear said

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Gotta love dvd.co.uk. Yay for one pound shipping!
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:37PM Obienator said

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With gas prices as they are I rather be zombified!

That new artwork is cool, the jockey looks hilarious and the spitter is the most heinous thing ever!
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:43PM Clownzilla said

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Game companies NEED to stop exporting censored games to countries. If a person want's to decapitate zombies then they should be allowed to. These game companies need to stand up for the rights of game developers and gamers. Sure, game companies are out to make money but eventually this anti-violence stance will trickle to a stance where ANYTHING that the government does not like will be banned. These game companies need to boycott countries like Austrailia and Germany until these ridiculous laws are overturned. The future of the gaming industry and on a larger scale free speech are being put in danger because of these companies bowing down for short term profits.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:49PM Rick James said

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I'm in the US, so I don't know about their laws and such down under. However, I think the bigger issue is that they may have laws that enable their government to take these kinds of stances on violent video games.

That being said, if their citizens don't approve of censorship, then they need to do the protesting to have the laws changed.

In my opinion, I agree with you to an extent that people should be able to play their violent game if they so choose. However, I personally believe parents (around the globe) need to do a better job of parenting and make informed decisions as to what games their children play.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:03PM Clownzilla said

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That's something else that irks me. I think parents are dropping the ball on watching what their kids play. I think many games now are made for a mature audience and many parents still think Pac-Man when they think of video games. I guess the good news is that my generation (child of the 70's) understands what video games are made today and I absolutely will make sure that my kids won't play those games until the appropriate age. That said, it makes me uneasy that governments are increasingly using the approach of blanketing the whole population with censorship to "fix" these problems.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:43PM Vcize said

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In my experience, the kids that are only allowed to play pac-man and watch disney movies until their 17 are far more likely to turn out fucked up than those that play call of duty and watch R rated movies at 14.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 9:45PM thesillyoldbear said

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Why don't you go f@#k yourself buddy. You're talking about banning a whole country because of one a-hole in one redneck state full of bikers, prostitutes and conservatives whose main population live in a city run by four wealthy families. Go and look up the term federation and then come back.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:45PM MaliceMajorE15 said

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i hope realistic mode isnt just that it takes shed loads of bullets to kill a zombie cos lets face it zombies are already dead, bullets shouldnt stop them. it should be decaps only
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:05PM MLS said

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The L4D zombies aren't already dead. They're just really sick.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:19PM MaliceMajorE15 said

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i see. an incurable virus with zombie like symptoms....

kinda makes them un-dead which is all the same. contemporary zombie media such as resident evil the films and dawn of the dead show that those that are infected via bites or otherwise were all dead.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:43PM (Unverified) said

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Well not really. For instance 28 days later, one of the more obvious inspirations for L4D, shows them leaving the "infected" to starve to death.
Also, saying "If something's already dead then..." as a logical argument is a little odd. When it's the undead there HAVE to be extenuating circumstances by definition. What those are is undefined.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 3:00PM MLS said

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Also, the only zombie-like symptom is that they attack the un-infected. Going beyond that, they also attack each other, and you'll notice they don't eat anybody. They just kick and punch. So they have very little zombie like qualities.

That being said, I still call them zombies in the game for the sake of convenience. It's much easier to just yell to your partner "zombies at the back door!", but when you have time to breathe, Zoey is right - "I'm calling zombie bullshit."
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 6:43PM einhanderkiller said

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It would be AWESOME if Realism Mode made the zombies slower, take more hits to kill, but at the same time made you slower as well, have fewer bullets available, take more damage per hit (maybe 40-50 HP per hit?), and make it more difficult to aim. Zombie apocalypse simulation, woo!

Ever since Left 4 Dead launched, I've always wanted a custom map set in a blizzard in Pripyat where the gameplay resembled the aforementioned gameplay mode. Maybe that will finally become a reality. ^_^
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:48PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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:pours one for his Aussie homies:
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:58PM darkinchworm said

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Captain Planet, you're a hero. Why don't you take these censorship laws down to zero?
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:49PM Zertoss said

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You're our powers magnified, so won't you fight on the gamers' side?
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 12:52PM CloudStrife said

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When it comes to games, the Aussie's always get screwed
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:04PM nighttime said

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Whether in price or lack of content, we do love a good screw!
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 3:14PM Alex R said

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So does the UK.
But without the censorship so much. More like extortionate everything else.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:04PM kevin949 said

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Well, if it's really "realistic" then 1 bite and you're done. That's hardcore.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:06PM darkinchworm said

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If it's realistic, you'll likely shit your pants and die of a heart attack upon seeing the first zombie. Game over, man.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:38PM Uphillbothways said

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If it's realistic, then you'd just spend the entire game trying to run away.

Rule #1: Cardio.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:05PM (Unverified) said

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I have no earthly clue why that was downvoted, but I agree Ziggy.

If I were a 26 yr old Aussie, I'd have a serious problem with this being edited along with all kinds of great games. As a country, your gamers need to rise together and protest. But that's just IMO.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:08PM ColorblindMonk said

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The Teletubby mod would be perfect for this censored version!
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:17PM (Unverified) said

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You know those Australian beer commercials where the men on it are really tough? That obviously isn't real Australia. The Aussie Gov sounds like a bunch of 40 year old mothers. Thinking everything will corrupt their sweet children.

Obviously it worked, otherwise you'd all protest. All I know is, if the US gov does something people don't like, they will bitch and whine until everyone is happy.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:20PM MowDownJoe said

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It was downvoted because we don't care about his stupid band on MySpace. Go plug that crap somewhere else.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:21PM Anthology said

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I have no idea how they [Australian government] figure censoring a game in this manor makes it any more morally suitable, you're still firing a god damn gun at monster.

How is removing its arm any worse than shooting the living fuck out of it in general?
Is the Australian government some sort of Zombie-sympathizing regime?
God, even given the restrictions imposed nowadays, I'm glad I live in the US.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:21PM (Unverified) said

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It was probably down voted for the vaguely related comment in fractured English and subsequent link pimp.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:25PM Sloar said

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People, free speech is granted in the US Constitution and whether or not you believe that should apply to other countries, the reality is that it doesn't.

On another hand, it's kind of ironic that a country once a penal colony is now prohibited from images of violence. You would think that after 150 years, it would be out of their system. However, once an alcoholic....
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 3:29PM Clownzilla said

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It's not guaranteed by all constitutions but it should be. Free speech is a human right no matter where a person lives.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 4:18PM Sloar said

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Free speech isn't deemed an inalienable right. Freedom of speech is seen as a right granted by government. You probably view it as a universal right since you have grown up with it and it seems like the right thing to do. I think that we could all agree on some aspects of speech that people shouldn't be free to use and which the government should censor. The Australian government happens to believe that zombie guts cross that line.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 7:26PM TJF said

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I beleive that he means it should be a right that everyone is allowed.

Saying "I'm so pissed off at [political figure]" should not have you killed or thrown in prison.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 9:49PM thesillyoldbear said

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America was a penal colony long before Australia was discovered. You know what they say though, once an ignorant redneck...
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 11:57PM Sloar said

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Adam, exactly when was Australia "discovered"? I believe that the natives have been there a long time and weren't part of the penal colony. Oh, and Australia didn't start out as a penal colony.

You know what they say: better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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Posted: Oct 9th 2009 12:14AM thesillyoldbear said

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It was discovered by Cook in 1770 and established as a settlement by Phillip in 1788. Western Australia was discovered by the Dutch in the mid 17th century but as they found no usable land (WA being mainly desert) they made no claim to it. Now if you could kindly point out when I said it started out as a penal colony I'll apologise and be on my way. OH, THAT'S RIGHT, I DIDN'T.

Unlike America, Australia actually teaches their kids history. As you seem to be ignorant of most things Australian (and American apparently) I'll let it slide.
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Posted: Oct 9th 2009 3:02PM Sloar said

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Apparently jokes haven't hit the land down under yet. I can't tell if you thought I was insulting you because you're Australian or because you're an alcoholic. I'm glad to see that you've somehow turned this topic into a debate of the failed US public education system and their inability to teach history. You seem to have a lot of bottled up emotion. Were you wronged by an anonymous person on the internet once? Maybe you're just upset because a dingo ate your baby...
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:36PM s ls said

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just your signature? Hey dumbfuck this is joystiq not a forum, your ass is will get banned soon and good riddance.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:49PM Obienator said

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The reality is the US gets censored by default, you can kill a million people in gruesome ways, but don't you dare show any nudity!

It's really ridiculous and hilarious at the same time, especially if you see it from an outside perspective.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 2:24PM ducttapeBigSexy said

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The difference is that in Australia, it can't legally be sold; in the US retailers just choose not to sell it.

Seriously, I could make a game with nothing but nudity and violence, get an AO rating from the ESRB, open a video game store, and sell it. I wouldn't do it for monetary reasons, but there's no reason legally why I can't do it. That's not the case in Australia (and, thus, the reason why people are upset).
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 5:17PM Obienator said

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Hmm, point taken. Thanks.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 1:59PM IMF G3NG15 KH4N said

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I can't wait to get my hands on this game.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 2:09PM piopio said

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wouldn't realism mode have no zombies at all?
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Posted: Oct 8th 2009 4:32PM Dr Acula said

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Logic Bomb right there.
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