Video: Importing content from Forza 3's second disc
by Xav de Matos 
{ Oct 8th 2009 at 6:00PM } 
In order to get all of the game's additional content, racing fans will need to have 1.9GB of hard drive space available to import the entire disc. However, as outlined in the video, players can also choose which content they wish to install if space (or interest) is an issue. A complete listing of the game's disc two vehicles and circuits can be found after the break.
Also of note: Microsoft has revealed all new copies of Forza 3 will include a download token for ten classic vehicles and two additional circuits.
Vehicles only available via disc two import process, unless otherwise noted:
Acura
2001 Integra Type-R
1997 Acura NSX
Aston Martin
2001 V12 Vanquish
2008 DBS (VIP Content - DLC)
Audi
2008 R8
2002 #1 Champion S4 Competition
2004 #8 Audi ABT TT-R
2001 #4 Johansson Motorsport R8
2004 #5 Audi Sport Japan Team Goh R8
Bently
2003 #7 Team Bently Speed 8
BMW
2005 #2 BMW Motorsport M3 GTR
1999 #15 BEM Motorsport V12 LMR
Buick
1987 Regal GNX
Cadillac
2004 CTS-V
2004 #16 Team Cadillac CTS-V
2002 #6 Team Cadillac Northstar LMP-02
Chevrolet
1970 Corvette ZR-1
1967 Corvette Stingray 427
1996 Corvette Grand Sport
2009 Corvette ZR1 (VIP Content - DLC)
Chrysler
2004 PT Cruiser GT
1998 Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
Dodge
1996 Stealth R/T Turbo
2003 SRT4
1999 Viper GTS ACR
2000 #91 Viper Team Oreca GTS-R
2000 #57 Carsport Holland Viper GTS-R
2003 #126 Team Zakspeed Viper GTS-R
Ferrari
2007 430 Scuderia (VIP Content - DLC)
2003 #72 Team Alphand Aventures 550 Maranello GTS
1998 #12 Risi Competizione F333 SP
Ford
2005 Mustang GT
1966 GT40 MkII
Honda
1994 Civic 1.5 VTi
1999 Civic Si Coupe
1995 CR-X Del Sol SiR
2000 Prelude SiR
2004 Civic Type-R
2005 NSX-R
2003 #16 G'ZOX NSX
Infiniti
2003 G35 Coupe
Jaguar
1961 E-type S1
1993 XJ220
Koenigsegg
2002 CC8S
Lamborghini
2007 Gallardo Superleggera (VIP Content - DLC)
Lancia
1992 Delta Integrale EVO
1974 Stratos HF Stradale
Lotus
1972 Elan Sprint
1989 Carlton
2002 Esprit V8
Maserati
2006 GranSport
2005 #35 Risi Competizione MC 12
2005 #9 Vitaphone Racing Team MC12
Mazda
2005 Axela Sport 23S
2001 Mazdaspeed Familia
1990 Savanna RX-7
McLaren
#41 Team McLaren F1 GTR
1998 #41 Gulf Team Davidoff McLaren F1 GTR
Mercedes-Benz
1954 300SL Gullwing Coupe
2003 CLK55 AMG Coupe
1998 AMG Mercedes CLK GTR
Mitsubishi
2003 Eclipse GTS
1998 FTO GP Version R
1995 Eclipse GSX
1997 GTO
Nissan
1969 Fairlady Z 432
2003 Skyline Coupe 350GT
1993 MINE'S R32 Skyline GT-R
2005 #46 Dream Cube's ADVAN Z
2003 #3 HASEMISPORT ENDLESS Z
1998 R390
2003 #23 XANAVI NISMO GT-R
1997 #23 Nissan Motorsport R390
1998 #32 NISSAN R390 GT1
Opel
2003 #5 OPC TEAM PHOENIX Astra V8
Panoz
2006 #81 Team LNT Panox Esperante GTLM
2003 #11 JML Team Panox LMP-01
Peugeot
2007 #1 Peugeot 207 Super 2000
1993 #3 Peugeot Talbot Sport 905 EVO 1C
Pontiac
1968 GTO Hardtop
2004 GTO
Porche
2007 911 GT3 RS (997) (VIP Content - DLC)
2005 #3 Lechner Racing School Team 1 911 GT3 Cup
1998 #5 Zakspeed Racing 911 GT1-98
Saab
2002 9-3 Aero
Saleen
2000 S281
2001 #26 Konrad Motorsport S7R
SEAT
2003 Leon Cupra R
Shelby
1999 Series 1
1965 Cobra 427 S/C
Subaru
2005 Legacy B4 2.0 GT
1998 Impreza 22B STi
Toyota
1969 2000GT
1992 Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
2002 Soarer 430SCV
1995 MR2 GT
2002 Tom's W123 MR-S
1995 Tom's T020 MR2
1998 Top Secret 0-300 Supra
2005 #36 OPEN INTERFACE TOM'S SUPRA
2006 #25 ECLIPSE ADVAN SUPRA
2004 #35 YellowHat YMS Supra
2005 #6 EXXON Superflo Supra
1999 #3 Toyota Motorsport GT-ONE TS020
TVR
2001 Tuscan S
1998 Cerbera Speed 12
Vauxhall
2005 Monaro VXR
Volkswagen
2004 Beetle
Volvo
2004 #24 At-Speed S60 R
Circuits
Fujimi Kaido (Fujimi, Japan) - 14 Tracks
Nurburgring (Nurburg, Germany) - 5 tracks
Rally di Positano (Amalfi, Italy) - 10 tracks
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Special Agent Steve @ Oct 8th 2009 6:07PM
Fun fact: 2004 Beetle
Captain Planet [Planeteer | Power of Captain Planet] @ Oct 8th 2009 6:08PM
Pretty slick. I've always enjoyed Turn 10's art style and UI design.
johnnynumber5 @ Oct 8th 2009 7:45PM
Yeah the UI / menus etc are really slick and beautiful. Very "modern" in a minimalist type of way but it's just very classy and uncluttered.
tpp @ Oct 8th 2009 10:33PM
They may look pretty, but Forza 2 had some pretty awful usability problems with the menus. Stuff like way too many button clicks to go back and forth between functionality often used together (e.g. arcade free laps and car upgrades screen).
Also the garage was a complete nightmare to use with a full garage. From what I can tell it hasn't been upgraded at all, just made look prettier.
why not the LS2LS7? @ Oct 9th 2009 3:36AM
F1 had a well organized, but really ugly UI. F2 wasn't bad but was difficult to use from the steering wheel, F3 looks nice. The load times are awful on all of them. I don't get it.
Still looking forward to it, despite the load times.
And before you say "loading the game on to the HDD will fix the load times", it didn't on F1 or F2.
Bushman311 @ Oct 8th 2009 6:09PM
Hooray Beer!
Snowblind @ Oct 8th 2009 6:12PM
I'm going to drive the E-type for the whole game.
Cono1234 @ Oct 8th 2009 6:12PM
"So after listening to the nice British man.."
THE HEAVY @ Oct 8th 2009 6:13PM
The presentation of this game is beautiful
Tep @ Oct 8th 2009 6:13PM
inb4solace and his bullshit
Orchard Pear @ Oct 8th 2009 6:15PM
inb4Tepcrying.
Damn, too late.
AoE @ Oct 8th 2009 6:25PM
seriously this is the most annoying.... i don't know what you'd call it, not a meme certainly... catch-phrase perhaps? I digress, it's one of the most annoying things on the internet, and I wish I could punch you in the throat for perpetuating it.
David @ Oct 8th 2009 6:30PM
i know, right? as if posting before someone renders anything that they say completely null.
ToadStoolPorridge (PSN: tennispro_99) @ Oct 8th 2009 7:15PM
If I may, I would like to ask you: Why did you write this comment? It adds nothing new or worthwhile to the discussion. Did you think you were funny (Just FYI, you weren't). Nice try. Monsier Troll, but better luck picking on someone next time...
MattyMc13 @ Oct 8th 2009 6:14PM
Is this like the install that some PS3 games require?
Orchard Pear @ Oct 8th 2009 6:16PM
No, this is different, and perfectly acceptable, even an awesome feature...
...because it's on 360.
WINterfang ( Now with the power to piss you off ) @ Oct 8th 2009 6:27PM
You can play the game normally on the first disk but you need the second one because it has a shitload of cars but you don't need to disk swap.
David @ Oct 8th 2009 6:27PM
it's similar, but technically not the same. PS3 installs are mandatory and (i believe) done to compensate for the blu-ray's slower read speeds; this install is technically not mandatory (though you're missing out on a lot if you don't do it) and it's because of the limitations of the DVD storage space.
ballistic3188 @ Oct 8th 2009 6:29PM
yes and no. to get all the content yes it is an install like the PS3 however you can play it straight without installing the second disc. it is slightly better than required install but really who wouldn't want to have every car and track on their game?
DeepFriedSushi @ Oct 8th 2009 6:43PM
its more like dlc install discs
such as for oblivion and fallout. i'm surprised that its only 1.9GB tho seems like they could've add alot more cars and tracks if they had the time.
nick @ Oct 8th 2009 6:50PM
I would say yes and no. Most 360 content does not require a download to the hard drive to play, and Forza technically doesn't either, unless you want to play the extra cars/tracks. If you do download the extra content to the hard drive, you can still play the game itself from disc. A lot of 360 games can be installed on the hard drive if you want (this is a relatively recent feature since the last update), but not all games can be installed to the hard drive or operate worse on the hard drive than operating off disc.
Most PS3 content, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, seems to require you to install on the hard drive to play. Or at least every game I've aquired has. If there's an update to the title, and it seems like every title has an update, after you install to the hard drive, then you have to download the update, and the proceed to install that update. I've found that I really can't play a new PS3 game immediately until waiting some amount of time. In this respect, I really like how Microsoft has handled the operation and update of games. Updates occur for practically every 360 game as well, but there's no seperate download and install (there's simply download), and the updates are typically quick and tiny.
Sebastien @ Oct 8th 2009 6:58PM
Nope! PS3's are modern day consoles and don't require a second disc as all PS3's are equipped with Blu Ray. That's why games like MGS4, Killzone2, Uncharted2 are PS3 only, it would take up to 8 dvd's on the PS3.
johnnynumber5 @ Oct 8th 2009 7:17PM
Not all PS3 installs are mandatory and most of the games now make it optional but you can choose to install if you want faster loading. Forza 3 requires you to install if you want all the content in the game ... and who wouldn't? It's not exactly the same thing but the only reason it's not mandatory is because then a HDD would be required to play the game and not all 360's come with an HDD. Basically half the content is one disc 2 so to fully enjoy the experience you need to install even though it's not a requirement to play the first disc.
why not the LS2LS7? @ Oct 8th 2009 11:04PM
Come on, it's nearly identical. PS3 installs are to get around the speed limitations of the optical drive, this install is to get around the space limitations of the optical drive.
No Xbox fanboy should be trying to write this off as different. And 10-15 minutes is a very long time. This is definitely deserving of a "go make a sandwich" joke.
Snowblind @ Oct 9th 2009 5:09AM
@Sebastien
Pretty moot point now. "8 DVD's" is a huge exageration, but if more 360 games simply require you to install parts of the games, there's nothing stopping games like Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto, etc, working on the 360 *without* the need to swap discs.
It'll simply require an intsall, which most PS3 games need anyway.
So I don't really see how PS3 fanboys can be trying to turn this to their advantage, you've just lost one of your biggest negative facts against the 360.
Dr. Bradwart @ Oct 8th 2009 6:17PM
Not bad. I'll have to clean off some space off my HDD.
Wonderflex @ Oct 8th 2009 6:17PM
This is one of the wierdest choices I've seen a developer take in some time, but I guess they had to do what they had to do.
So, what happens when an online race ends and you want to switch cars before the next one, but don't have them installed yet? Can you add them on the fly or do you have to exit the race and then install them?
I also find it odd that you can only expierience a portion of the game if you don't have a hard drive installed. But do many people still have 360's without hard drives?
AoE @ Oct 8th 2009 6:27PM
I might be wrong here, but I suspect most arcades have been purchased as secondary 360s, not primary. Anecdotaly I purchased mine because while I didn't need 2 HDDs, I did need 2 360s.
AoE @ Oct 8th 2009 6:41PM
Also, I dunno if you're familiar with Forza or not, but the chances that you'd want to use a car that you don't already have installed is pretty slim... part of playing the game is tuning the hell out of your car, using one with default settings is rarely a happy experience when racing against people with actually tuned cars.
johnnynumber5 @ Oct 8th 2009 7:23PM
There are a lot of people who have 360's without HDD's especially when they dropped in price. My niece has a 360 without an HDD as I would imagine many younger and casual owners are the same. Most hardcore gamers probably have a HDD but the space may still be an issue.
@AOE
I don't know man I remember that Gamespot E3 demonstration where the developer guy was saying they made this game so the enthusiast who like to tune their car can play it and so the 6 year old who just wants to have fun can get on there and play. I don't think they are going exclusively for the hardcore simulation racing nut with this one.
Captain Planet [Planeteer | Power of Captain Planet] @ Oct 8th 2009 6:20PM
ZOMG SUXXBOX HAZ 2 HAV3 T00 DISKZ AHAHhahaHAHA!!!!1!!!!111 I LUV mAh BLU RaYhs with Teh BluW lASORs!!
There, I saved you some time Sony fanboys.
David @ Oct 8th 2009 6:28PM
and still wasted everyone elses
Wonderflex @ Oct 8th 2009 6:35PM
Why? Seriously, these are the comments that only drive us farther appart.
Yes, some people hate Microsoft, some people hate Sony. That's just how it is, but to say that anybody who has a differing opinion on the matter is a fanboy (or uses "SUXXBOX" as a word) is just plain stupid.
Although I personally love my PS3 over other's 360s, I'm not blinded by this love. Forza looks great. This decision for the implimentation of multi-discs is not. Is it be cause the 360 is a "suxxbox" - no. It's because the concept of switching disc to access cars "suxxs." If it was switch discs for tracks, then that would be fine, and actually quite welcome, as I could decide which disc had the best tracks and stick to it.
Now, if you love track A, but love car B, you have to install car B, so you can give it a spin. Granted, the easy option is just to install all B cars and call it good. I would be much nicer to have all cars on both discs, and then I choose to install the tracks I like instead.
So, I love Sony, Xbox doesn't suck, and this decision kinda blows.
David @ Oct 8th 2009 6:41PM
it's a valid point (we can have our preferences without being fanboys) but it'd be nice if you'd actually read the details of the install: you DO NOT have to switch discs to play a certain car or track. it's a one time, optional install.
Captain Planet [Planeteer | Power of Captain Planet] @ Oct 8th 2009 7:12PM
Do we not have our 'Interwebz sarcasm hats' on today?
johnnynumber5 @ Oct 8th 2009 7:28PM
So yeah it's actually worse than being able to switch discs because none of the content from the second disc can be played independent of the first. So, it's install or bust because you don't even have the option of switching discs if you don't have a HDD.
why not the LS2LS7? @ Oct 9th 2009 3:39AM
I'm a big PS3 fan (maybe fanboy, I dunno). But playing the F3 demo, it's going to be tough for GT5 to top it, except in the graphics department. It plays well, looks good enough and seems to bring back a lot of the stuff they annoyingly took out of F2, like point to point races.
I can't wait.
Mazrael @ Oct 9th 2009 12:34PM
how do you mean 'in the graphics department'? We know Turn 10 scanned all the cars, & the GT team most likely did too, (if the PSP version is anything to go by, they just repeat a load of models - I've already seen 5 NSXs using one model).. so it'd be down to appearance in colours, scenery & the actual physics in the game..
Rhamsey @ Oct 8th 2009 6:23PM
I like how you can chose what to install.
Tiago Leite @ Oct 8th 2009 6:27PM
Quick question: how much space is needed to install the first disc?
David @ Oct 8th 2009 6:28PM
reading is fundamental.
DeepFriedSushi @ Oct 8th 2009 6:44PM
^you should listen to your own advice, he is asking install of the **FIRST** disc.
Ashitaka @ Oct 8th 2009 6:24PM
Does this mean that you won't be able to play part of Forza3 without a hard drive? Or can you actually switch discs and play everything?
wormania @ Oct 8th 2009 6:28PM
Only extra content is on the 2nd disk, no engine. Therefore you have to play the game with the first disk.
johnnynumber5 @ Oct 8th 2009 7:31PM
Yeah you can't swap discs to play the content. It's HDD or bust on the additional content from disc 2.
Tiago Leite @ Oct 8th 2009 6:31PM
FIRST DISC...
Durden @ Oct 8th 2009 6:35PM
This game will be amazing. I wish I had the dough to set up the multi-screen experience. 1984 Celica Supra is what I'll be driving most of the game.
Lurkero @ Oct 8th 2009 6:36PM
Choosing what to install? Wasnt expecting that. Pretty sweet
Wonderflex @ Oct 8th 2009 6:42PM
I'm not sure. I almost bought an arcade because I currently own a PS3 and wanted to play some of the Xbox exclusive games. I think that there are probably a lot of people out there who purchase them for their kids for Christmas and birthdays because they are the cheaper option and the parents don't know any better.
mahouneko @ Oct 8th 2009 6:42PM
So is the game running off of the harddrive or the disc? I mean, the easiest thing would be to have a two-part install process that won't close the installation process until the contents from both discs have been installed, then run the game from the harddrive with the first disc as a license-check.
I don't understand why they'd separate the additional tracks completely and force people to "import" it.