Nintendo, Capcom, friends file suit over DS piracy-enabling R4 sales

Video game developers sure hate pirates. I wonder if they like ninjas.

I hope they have a big jar of dirt to throw in court.

I was under the impression that R4 carts were all but defunct. Wonder if this lawsuit will be expanded include other make/models of flash carts?

With the R4 flash cart, theres no modification to the console.

1) Slap the ROM on a microSD.
2) Slap the microSD into the R4.
3) Slap the R4 into the DS.
4) ???
5) Keep These companies from Profit.

At least you can admit it. That's the first step to recovery.

A good idea. Go after the enabler. While there are a few who will buy one of these carts for homebrew, wallpapers, etc. There are also folks who will buy this to pirate copyrighted material and the manufacturer knows this. Granted, I can't see how they can possibly take legal action against them when most of these carts aren't installed with any firmware to allow these actions.

Also, R4 has become the least popular, hasn't it? Wasn't the old R4 closed down. I remember reading that here or something.

My acekard costed my 28 dollars. Thats less than any new DS game at retail. You wonder why people are willing to pay that much for piracy?

What I hate is this gets in the way of legitimate homebrewers like myself. There needs to be a device that can run homebrew, but cant run legitimate ROMs.

(And if anyone wants to try and call me out for piracy, I'll take a picture of my 30+ DS game collection :P)

Hah recovering pirate.

When I had a DSlite I had an M3 cart. I bought copies of game that I actually played, like geometry wars galaxies, but it's just realy nice to have them all on the handheld and not have to carry around a bunch of games Not having to carry around a bunch of carts is great because it's just one less thing to keep track of.

More importantly, homebrew, so I could play classic nex/snes games, use homebrew browsers that were better than nintendos version of opera, etc. It's just really convenient to have. And you don't have to "modify" your handheld. You just put games on a microsd, pop the cart in like a normal game and thats it.

It's hard to see anyone as "legit" when they own things that encourage pirating.

I understand that a good number of you actually BUY the games after playing it, or actually use it as a backup (I sure wish I had a backup for my first copy of Elite Beat Agents... I lost that thing a long time ago, had to buy me a new one) for legitimate reasons (though MOST people don't need a backup, as most neither lose their DS games nor do their DS games break) ---- however, the rest of the community actually pirates games and never buys them.
There's also the good number that say the same things as you guys do -but actually never buy the games or only buy a small percentage of the games, to hide "in plain sight" so they can excuse themselves.

If you could effectively police the rest of your community, maybe we'd encourage things such as homebrew communities and such.

I've been thinking about getting a flash card to play GB/C/Advance games. Hell, maybe even some DS ones.

Is this possible?

Spyder Taco, your recovery from piracy wouldn't happen to coincide with obtaining a good, full-time job, would it?

They took this long to crack down on those Flash Cart things? really?

Steam does make life easier. I love Steam.

A lot of effort to stop the resale of a particular brand of flash card. I wonder why the others are not included? Well, not like the can do anything to Acekard, they're cenetred in China.

I'd support the developers, but most game companies, as with the music and movie industry, hate their paying customers. They hate you for selling your unwanted copies, they hate you for buying used games, they hate you for not buying a copy for each separate device you wish to play the software on. Hell, they hate you for not buying triple the amount of games you already buy. They tried DRM to stop piracy but all it's done is punish people who actually pay for their games. Yeah, some anti-piracy plan, guys, slap around your paying customers. DRM has actually encouraged piracy. I don't buy games because they spit on me when I do.

Coupled with the dirty actions of Square Enix, who like to send out C&D letters to fan art projects, I honestly think the game industry should suffer for a while. Maybe then they'll treat their fans better, they'll stop treating the paying customers like a possible threat, and they'll stop flooding the market with shovelware. The game industry needs to start putting more effort into making their games good, than in trying to force people to buy mediocre crap such as Mass Effect(well, okay, so I hold zero hope of Bioware making a good game no matter what).

FWIW, on the PSP a custom firmwared PSP is MUCH more powerful/featureful the one with stock firmware. It adds some really useful features that have become "can't live without" type items for many users.

Nintendo finally gets tough against piracy? Maybe the slowdown in sales of the DS (and Wii) in Japan had something to do with it....

I can carry a couple dozen games on me with one cartridge. Portability? On a DS? You betcha.

Even if I had money I still wouldn't buy DS games... most of the new ones are terrible.. all the good Sonic, Mario, and Mega Man ZX games are a couple years old now. R4's go for around $6 on some sites... that's about 500% cheaper than used at GameStop and you can have 256mb-16gb worth of games on your cart. AND you can play emulators too... piracy just has too much to offer.

Or maybe you should fix your consoles with better anti piracy techniques... Whenever a company goes all law suit action that just shows me that the high paid developers in a large corporation are giving up against a battle with 10 year old UK hackers that don't even get paid... it's truly sad with th lack of quality programmers. In fact any loss of money because of this, that so called "extreme damages" should be taken out of developers paychecks since it's their fault for leaving open so many security holes....dsi has been a slight improvement but people apparently still manage.

Thank you for getting rid of the baby pirates image, it was getting *really* old...

...'Cause of course you know that R4 is the only company making flash carts.

Yet another foolish lawsuit by companies that don't get it, just like the RIAA.

Let's lump another one in there while we're at it. Why not have Pepsi sue RC for making RC Cola, even though Coke makes cola also.

It's impossible!

None can stop the Baby Pirates!

Illegal instruments are those you use to kill the whales!!

...the effects of this lawsuit? Acekard and CycloDS sales go up.

I'm listening to music on my R4 right now, and I play GBC games and Quake on it, but otherwise I buy my games and play them in with the intended media.

I wish everyone would do what Moonshell does and not let you play commercial ROMs.

I don't have a job, so money buying all the DS games I want to try is a bit of an issue. If 30 games come out in a month, and 15 of them look like they might be fun, I don't really have the cash to go buy 15 DS games I may or may not like.

Not to mention the convenience. I take my DSi to school, and having 20 games on a flash cart sure beats have 20 game cases or cartridges.

The only reason I ever bought a DSlite was to pirate :(
I'm broke.

"There needs to be a device that can run homebrew, but cant run legitimate ROMs."

Then roms will be patched. What you're suggesting is impossible.



"I don't have a job, so money buying all the DS games I want to try is a bit of an issue."


Reviews exist for a reason. There's even a website that collects dozens of reviews on every single game out there so you don't have to rely on a single opinion. "Just trying it out" is such a typical bullshit excuse.

I'm gathering MetaFortress didn't turn out as well as they thought it would. :D

"Reviews exist for a reason"

Yeah, because I have the same tastes as every reviewer who reviews a game. a lot of reviewers are biased as well so er, no.

To rephrase: "There's even a website that collects dozens of reviews on every single game out there so you don't have to rely on a single opinion."

There's also demos, full games playable in stores, game renting and youtube videos. Don't give me the same old weak excuses, you cheap bitch. You thieves are so full of shit.