Namedropping exclusives from Halo 3: ODST to Grand Theft Auto: Episodes From Liberty City to Shadow Complex, as well as reaffirming Microsoft's "year-to-date growth in console sales compared to last year," Microsoft's director of product management Aaron Greenberg sounds extremely confident in the Xbox 360 (that's his job, right?). Thankfully, he's not always above admitting when his competitors are going to win. "When NPD releases September sales later today, we fully expect PlayStation 3 will come in as the console with the most units sold for the month," he tells Game Informer in a recent interview.
Unsurprisingly, though, he's sanguine on the prospect of Microsoft's console beating out Sony's. "We remain confident that Xbox 360 will not only outsell PS3 for the full calendar year, but for this entire generation." His confidence wanes though when asked about beating Apple with the Zune HD, offering only, "Our strategy has always been to completely focus on delivering the best games and entertainment experience in the living room and not get distracted by anything else." Gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em, right?
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Reader Comments (73)
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 2:25PM TheDarkWayne said
Also don't pass up The Darkness, that's a real gem. Just ignore the multiplayer though. Splinter Cell double agent was great too, or just get Chaos Theory from Games on Demand when you get Live. Dont forget Fable 2 either, or the original Saints Row, and the Condemned games are good too.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 2:27PM Starcade said
I want so much to like the Zune HD, but I haven't heard of or seen a compelling reason to do so, other than I'm impressed with the specs BUT haven't seen it do anything yet.
The demo unit in the stores contain NOTHING other than a single video for testing.
I still don't know how well it's going to integrate with the 360, because we haven't seen any of the new features appear on the 360 yet.
And as far as games... are there any?
I dunno, if Microsoft is attempting to generate buzz on the Zune HD, I'm not aware it. And I'm not sure stealth marketing is going to work. It almost seems as if it were released before they were ready to do anything with it.
The demo unit in the stores contain NOTHING other than a single video for testing.
I still don't know how well it's going to integrate with the 360, because we haven't seen any of the new features appear on the 360 yet.
And as far as games... are there any?
I dunno, if Microsoft is attempting to generate buzz on the Zune HD, I'm not aware it. And I'm not sure stealth marketing is going to work. It almost seems as if it were released before they were ready to do anything with it.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 2:40PM majg said
I'm pretty sure they have to hold off on massive ad blitz because of they can't keep them on the shelves. Hard to advertise something that isn't available. Plus, they'll gear up for holidays.
For games and whatnot, I'd expect some teaser type stuff for Nov and perhap CES.
Otherwise, it's probably not enough for folks to jump from iThings nor will the Zune Video integration be enough for Xbox users to mad dash to Zune HD. imho
I have the Zune 120 and 30, but it's the Zunepass that keeps me hooked.
However, if they were serious, they'd release a controller attachment bundled with a Halo portable or Castlecrashers etc etc and with achievements (XBL integration) and they may sell VERY well, imho.
But who knows... maybe they figure the consumer has enough to spend money on already this holiday and will announce something special this CES.
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For games and whatnot, I'd expect some teaser type stuff for Nov and perhap CES.
Otherwise, it's probably not enough for folks to jump from iThings nor will the Zune Video integration be enough for Xbox users to mad dash to Zune HD. imho
I have the Zune 120 and 30, but it's the Zunepass that keeps me hooked.
However, if they were serious, they'd release a controller attachment bundled with a Halo portable or Castlecrashers etc etc and with achievements (XBL integration) and they may sell VERY well, imho.
But who knows... maybe they figure the consumer has enough to spend money on already this holiday and will announce something special this CES.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 2:27PM (Unverified) said
Riddick is great fun, too.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 2:31PM (Unverified) said
Don't you have a PS3 too? If you do get Valkyria Chronicles, great game.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 3:27PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
If Greenberg wasn't an executive he would be labeled a troll for those comments. If he wants to tout already old XBLA games and DLC it's only fair to do the same for the PS3. Killzone 2, Infamous & MLB The Show are equally relevant. If he counts Shadow Complex Ill counter it with the PSN version of FF7.
Is he also forgetting about the biggest PS3 exclusive releasing this year? A little game called Final Fantasy 13 that's exclusively on the PS3 in Japan this Christmas.
Greenberg is completely delusional ... The little pre-emptive strike was also unnecessary when it comes to the NPDs. Why is he deflecting by talking being ahead of Sony when Nintendo is running circles around the 360?
The truth is he doing his best to upsell a barren chest of exclusives this year. They have ODST (expansion), Forza 3 (great title to hype up) and Left 4 Dead 2 (also on PC). Sony has Uncharted 2 (goty), Demons Souls (niche RPG that's critically acclaimed), Ratchet & Clank ACiT (iconic franchise - AAA blockbuster), re-release of God Of War 1 & 2 (with GOW 3 demo) and the biggest exclusive this year Final Fantasy 13 (will throw Japan into chaos.)
Do we also include PSN & PSP exclusives?
What about Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2?
I don't take issue with Greenberg touting his paltry exclusive software lineup (even though he resorted to dlc, expansions and xbla games) but portraying that lineup as being something grandiose that no one can touch is just silly.
If he wants to hype already released games then Ill hype Infamous, Killzone 2, Demons Souls, MLB 09 The Show, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Wipeout HD Fury etc as being top holiday exclusives in addition to the big guns FF13, UC2, R&C ACiT & GOW 1 & 2.
I'll take New Super Mario Bros, Lost Winds, Mario & Sonic at the olympics, boy and his blob, conduit, muramasa, phantom brave, tatsunoko vs capcom, dead space extraction & Darkside Chronicles over the 360 lineup.
We haven't even gotten into DS & PSP exclusives!
Is he also forgetting about the biggest PS3 exclusive releasing this year? A little game called Final Fantasy 13 that's exclusively on the PS3 in Japan this Christmas.
Greenberg is completely delusional ... The little pre-emptive strike was also unnecessary when it comes to the NPDs. Why is he deflecting by talking being ahead of Sony when Nintendo is running circles around the 360?
The truth is he doing his best to upsell a barren chest of exclusives this year. They have ODST (expansion), Forza 3 (great title to hype up) and Left 4 Dead 2 (also on PC). Sony has Uncharted 2 (goty), Demons Souls (niche RPG that's critically acclaimed), Ratchet & Clank ACiT (iconic franchise - AAA blockbuster), re-release of God Of War 1 & 2 (with GOW 3 demo) and the biggest exclusive this year Final Fantasy 13 (will throw Japan into chaos.)
Do we also include PSN & PSP exclusives?
What about Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2?
I don't take issue with Greenberg touting his paltry exclusive software lineup (even though he resorted to dlc, expansions and xbla games) but portraying that lineup as being something grandiose that no one can touch is just silly.
If he wants to hype already released games then Ill hype Infamous, Killzone 2, Demons Souls, MLB 09 The Show, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Wipeout HD Fury etc as being top holiday exclusives in addition to the big guns FF13, UC2, R&C ACiT & GOW 1 & 2.
I'll take New Super Mario Bros, Lost Winds, Mario & Sonic at the olympics, boy and his blob, conduit, muramasa, phantom brave, tatsunoko vs capcom, dead space extraction & Darkside Chronicles over the 360 lineup.
We haven't even gotten into DS & PSP exclusives!
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 3:40PM (Unverified) said
Holy crap. Is your livelihood tied to the success of Sony? Lets see here, you're bashing ODST expansion while touting a God of War 1 & 2 re release? You're talking about handhelds when Microsoft doesn't even have one? You're talking about an exclusive release in Japan? Jesus Christ, get over it. You're coming of as extremely pathetic.
And Uncharted 2 isn't goty. Demon's Souls is. Seriously people... get it!
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And Uncharted 2 isn't goty. Demon's Souls is. Seriously people... get it!
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 3:42PM (Unverified) said
What do you expect? He's a glorified PR rep. That said, I agree with your list toward the end minus The Conduit. It's just not that good.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2009 3:45PM (Unverified) said
Greenberg is a PR rep. You did make a few unfair comparisons, but I'll agree that MS's holiday lineup isn't as good as Sony's.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2009 4:35PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
@RiccochetJ
is your worth as a human being derived from personally insulting others? It's just something about Greenberg that makes my blood boil. I used the same convienient logic he subscribed to. Also, I never bashed ODST so get that idea out of your head. If he touts an expansion is it not legitimate to tout a re-release? How is it not relevant to include what's likely to be the top selling exclusive in the holiday release window? There isn't anything for me to "get over" as you are the one who can't accept it as legitimate. If anything you need to get over the fact that I mentioned it. Last I checked handhelds are a big part of holiday shopping which is why I mentioned it.
The truth is I think Greenberg is full of shit and being a PR goon doesn't make him immune from criticism. I'm just giving a counter point to his dubious claims. Tout Forza 3 and market that as the big gun because it's their best title. Talking about DLC, XBLA games and expansions is as relevant as re-releases, PSN games and PSP games.
I'm just using the same PR voo doo as he is ... Truth be told Im more hyped for Forza 3 than the GOW re-release and I don't have a 360 anymore. From a purely content driven/consumer POV I think Nintendo & Sony have much more diverse, better and higher quality exclusive offerings ... Which is exactly the premise of my post.
I won't personally attack you but a healthy dose of why even reply if you had nothing of value to add to the discussion.
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is your worth as a human being derived from personally insulting others? It's just something about Greenberg that makes my blood boil. I used the same convienient logic he subscribed to. Also, I never bashed ODST so get that idea out of your head. If he touts an expansion is it not legitimate to tout a re-release? How is it not relevant to include what's likely to be the top selling exclusive in the holiday release window? There isn't anything for me to "get over" as you are the one who can't accept it as legitimate. If anything you need to get over the fact that I mentioned it. Last I checked handhelds are a big part of holiday shopping which is why I mentioned it.
The truth is I think Greenberg is full of shit and being a PR goon doesn't make him immune from criticism. I'm just giving a counter point to his dubious claims. Tout Forza 3 and market that as the big gun because it's their best title. Talking about DLC, XBLA games and expansions is as relevant as re-releases, PSN games and PSP games.
I'm just using the same PR voo doo as he is ... Truth be told Im more hyped for Forza 3 than the GOW re-release and I don't have a 360 anymore. From a purely content driven/consumer POV I think Nintendo & Sony have much more diverse, better and higher quality exclusive offerings ... Which is exactly the premise of my post.
I won't personally attack you but a healthy dose of why even reply if you had nothing of value to add to the discussion.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 4:50PM (Unverified) said
johnny- when MS profits year after year this gen so far, how is nintendo running circles around them ?
why do you only refer to nintendo winning over MS ?
i guess we could say that nintendo is running miles around sony now, right ?
sony has yet to turn a profit from PS3/PSP since 2005-2006. and the entire company i think is not profiting at all and taking a loss, while most divisions of MS profit year after year.
sony annihilated MS, sega, and nintendo last gen, but nintendo and MS have annihilated sony this gen so far. these are facts of the matter.
nintendo and MS are still going to sell consoles, so its not looking like anytime soon that sony could ever catch up to MS in the console war.
greenberg is not that far off for a company spokesperson. are they ever supposed to say anything negative ? he would lose his job...
hell everytime sony says something they paint a big picture that usually does not come true. ALMOST EVERY one of their predictions on sales and goals have failed and not come true over the past 4 years. wanna prove it wrong ?
did you want him to say ' we have no games coming out. sony is better. buy a ps3 and turn off your 360? give it a rest johnny, everyone on joystiq.com knows you are a giant fanboy, so nobody will really take you opinion on microsoft seriously.
btw the pspGO is already on sale, discounted by 20% at FRY'S and $ 200 now.
a bit quick dont you think? must not be moving at all ?
johnny needs to realize that greenberg talks from a revenue and company standpoint and not a gamers stance. he doesnt care which games are more fun to play. he is just addressing that he feels and pretty much knows that the 360 exclusives will outsell the ps3 ones and will help them beat out sony again this year. he knows that the 3 million copies of ODST sold to date are more than demons souls, uncharted 2, and throw in another game combined.
this is a business address by greenberg, not a fanboy comment like the 1 we just saw by johnny.
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why do you only refer to nintendo winning over MS ?
i guess we could say that nintendo is running miles around sony now, right ?
sony has yet to turn a profit from PS3/PSP since 2005-2006. and the entire company i think is not profiting at all and taking a loss, while most divisions of MS profit year after year.
sony annihilated MS, sega, and nintendo last gen, but nintendo and MS have annihilated sony this gen so far. these are facts of the matter.
nintendo and MS are still going to sell consoles, so its not looking like anytime soon that sony could ever catch up to MS in the console war.
greenberg is not that far off for a company spokesperson. are they ever supposed to say anything negative ? he would lose his job...
hell everytime sony says something they paint a big picture that usually does not come true. ALMOST EVERY one of their predictions on sales and goals have failed and not come true over the past 4 years. wanna prove it wrong ?
did you want him to say ' we have no games coming out. sony is better. buy a ps3 and turn off your 360? give it a rest johnny, everyone on joystiq.com knows you are a giant fanboy, so nobody will really take you opinion on microsoft seriously.
btw the pspGO is already on sale, discounted by 20% at FRY'S and $ 200 now.
a bit quick dont you think? must not be moving at all ?
johnny needs to realize that greenberg talks from a revenue and company standpoint and not a gamers stance. he doesnt care which games are more fun to play. he is just addressing that he feels and pretty much knows that the 360 exclusives will outsell the ps3 ones and will help them beat out sony again this year. he knows that the 3 million copies of ODST sold to date are more than demons souls, uncharted 2, and throw in another game combined.
this is a business address by greenberg, not a fanboy comment like the 1 we just saw by johnny.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 5:02PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
@RJ
Uncharted 2 is without a doubt the best game of 2009 ... In my opinion which is all I can express. That's from someone who owns both games (DS&UC2) and has already finished UC2 because I couldn't put the controller down! The last game that was that compelling to me was Jeanne D'Arc and before that was on the PS2 in the form of MGS 3 SE. From having played just about every highly rated game this year I say with 100% certainty that UC2 is the best game to this point in 09 and the highest quality game ever made. Period. The only games that might be better are MW2 & AC2.
@Alton
I have the Conduit and I think it's a good game. It's more than just playable. It's also better than a good lot of the junk FPSs released now-a-days. Nintendo certainly has a better lineup than MS and I might even argue better than Sony. When you count multiplatforms it doesn't but in terms of exclusives Nintendo & Sony are neck and neck.
Early 2010 is a different story as all 3 have awesome exclusives with MS possibly being best.
Mass effect 2, Alan wake, splinter cell, champions online (maybe), Nier Gestalt, Crackdown 2 and Halo Reach whenever that drops.
Ps3 has MAG, Heavy Rain, White Knight Chronicles, Modnation Racers, DC Universe online, Gran Turismo 5, Nier Replicant, The Last Guardian, God Of War 3 and the eye pet game.
Wii has FF Crystal Bearers, No More Heroes 2, Resident Evil 0, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Red Steel 2, Fragile, Monster Hunter 3, Epic Mickey (whenever it drops), Metroid Other M, Sin & Punishment 2 & Galaxy 2.
So yeah in the first half of '10 MS has the most popular franchise exclusives. Either way all three look awesome. Point being one can't make that argument for holiday 09.
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Uncharted 2 is without a doubt the best game of 2009 ... In my opinion which is all I can express. That's from someone who owns both games (DS&UC2) and has already finished UC2 because I couldn't put the controller down! The last game that was that compelling to me was Jeanne D'Arc and before that was on the PS2 in the form of MGS 3 SE. From having played just about every highly rated game this year I say with 100% certainty that UC2 is the best game to this point in 09 and the highest quality game ever made. Period. The only games that might be better are MW2 & AC2.
@Alton
I have the Conduit and I think it's a good game. It's more than just playable. It's also better than a good lot of the junk FPSs released now-a-days. Nintendo certainly has a better lineup than MS and I might even argue better than Sony. When you count multiplatforms it doesn't but in terms of exclusives Nintendo & Sony are neck and neck.
Early 2010 is a different story as all 3 have awesome exclusives with MS possibly being best.
Mass effect 2, Alan wake, splinter cell, champions online (maybe), Nier Gestalt, Crackdown 2 and Halo Reach whenever that drops.
Ps3 has MAG, Heavy Rain, White Knight Chronicles, Modnation Racers, DC Universe online, Gran Turismo 5, Nier Replicant, The Last Guardian, God Of War 3 and the eye pet game.
Wii has FF Crystal Bearers, No More Heroes 2, Resident Evil 0, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Red Steel 2, Fragile, Monster Hunter 3, Epic Mickey (whenever it drops), Metroid Other M, Sin & Punishment 2 & Galaxy 2.
So yeah in the first half of '10 MS has the most popular franchise exclusives. Either way all three look awesome. Point being one can't make that argument for holiday 09.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 6:30PM (Unverified) said
Yea tone and context. You know exactly what you were doing.
However, what really prompted me to push the reply button was when you actually had the audacity to include the PSP and the DS in this whole rant...
Really? Handhelds?
By the way, I'm going to be responding in different post threads just to keep you off guard. Divide and conquer I say! ;)
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However, what really prompted me to push the reply button was when you actually had the audacity to include the PSP and the DS in this whole rant...
Really? Handhelds?
By the way, I'm going to be responding in different post threads just to keep you off guard. Divide and conquer I say! ;)
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 4:56PM Machiavellian79 said
The difference is johnnynumber5 is that you do not get PAID (unless you are not telling us something) to champion the PS3. What do you expect Greenberg to do but champion the place where he gets paid. You on the other hand champion the PS3 as if you were getting paid. No matter what the high point is for the 360, you will always come into a thread champion the PS3. This lead people to believe that you are either getting paid by Sony or a complete fanboy.
I am not talking about games but the almighty Dollar. in other words flexibility in the fact that MS has not used the money they have for a price drop yet. The fact that MS can probably pull 50 bucks on any of their SKUs at anytime gives them flexibility this holiday to spur sells. Include a decent game bundle with that move and MS can maintain a nice sell through for the holiday.
I am not talking about games but the almighty Dollar. in other words flexibility in the fact that MS has not used the money they have for a price drop yet. The fact that MS can probably pull 50 bucks on any of their SKUs at anytime gives them flexibility this holiday to spur sells. Include a decent game bundle with that move and MS can maintain a nice sell through for the holiday.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 5:35PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
MS has just dropped their PRO ski and reduced the cost of their Elite to match Sonys new Slim. Where is the flexibility with an imminent launch of Natal in early 2010. I guess they could drop the Elite to $250 but that wouldn't make sense because they just dropped the price to $299. Please explain how it's more flexible? I guess they could add value with a bundle but beyond that there won't be a price drop until Natal is closer to release.
As far as being paid by Sony or whatever ... It would be nice but afraid to say these opinions are all mine. Besides, I doubt the compensation were it to exists would be worth it since I already have a career. From what I was reading about the MS paid shills they usually try to blend in and be neutral to sway opinion.
Yes I despise MS and can't stand Greenberg (no issue with Ballmer, Kim, Nelson or Bach) but why that has an effect on anyone else is beyond me. It's not like Im cavalier or trying to masquarede here ... Hell I'm tempted to go out and pick up another 360 before a second PS3. The price is good but I want either a revision or a Natal bundle at console cost before going down that road again.
So say what you will ... I'm fair game because I pit myself out on a limb for speaking my mind about Greenbergs comments. No skin off my back. In fact, it strengthens my resolve.
Everyone has an inherent bias whether they admit it or not. It is what it is ... My opinion. It's subject to change like the seasons and isn't set in stone.
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As far as being paid by Sony or whatever ... It would be nice but afraid to say these opinions are all mine. Besides, I doubt the compensation were it to exists would be worth it since I already have a career. From what I was reading about the MS paid shills they usually try to blend in and be neutral to sway opinion.
Yes I despise MS and can't stand Greenberg (no issue with Ballmer, Kim, Nelson or Bach) but why that has an effect on anyone else is beyond me. It's not like Im cavalier or trying to masquarede here ... Hell I'm tempted to go out and pick up another 360 before a second PS3. The price is good but I want either a revision or a Natal bundle at console cost before going down that road again.
So say what you will ... I'm fair game because I pit myself out on a limb for speaking my mind about Greenbergs comments. No skin off my back. In fact, it strengthens my resolve.
Everyone has an inherent bias whether they admit it or not. It is what it is ... My opinion. It's subject to change like the seasons and isn't set in stone.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 4:59PM (Unverified) said
'I'm just using the same PR voo doo as he is'
aren't you a gamer like the rest of us ?
leave the PR to the PR guy ?
and dont let my above comment have any bearing on the fact that I will enjoy the ps3 exclusives as much or MORE than the 360 ones coming up.
im very happy to have both consoles looking forward at whats coming to both platforms.
aren't you a gamer like the rest of us ?
leave the PR to the PR guy ?
and dont let my above comment have any bearing on the fact that I will enjoy the ps3 exclusives as much or MORE than the 360 ones coming up.
im very happy to have both consoles looking forward at whats coming to both platforms.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 5:14PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
Of course Nintendo is running circles on Sony if they are whomping Ms with a stick who is ahead of Sony. That goes without saying.
Profit my ass ... That's like saying GM made a profit because they previously wrote of billions in debt.
Likewise Sk8 everyone knows you are a 360 fanboy and a giant douche on top of that. You aren't even liked by anyone. You try to hide your BS but everyone sees through it.
I'm going to express my opinion whether or not it hurts the fanboys feelings. Don't like it? Don't read it.
You need to take some of your own advice and leave the sales spin to the PR goons. You haven't mattered to me in quite some time so it's not likely to change anytime soon.
LOL - I love it.
Go eat some vitamins or take a suppliment ...
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Profit my ass ... That's like saying GM made a profit because they previously wrote of billions in debt.
Likewise Sk8 everyone knows you are a 360 fanboy and a giant douche on top of that. You aren't even liked by anyone. You try to hide your BS but everyone sees through it.
I'm going to express my opinion whether or not it hurts the fanboys feelings. Don't like it? Don't read it.
You need to take some of your own advice and leave the sales spin to the PR goons. You haven't mattered to me in quite some time so it's not likely to change anytime soon.
LOL - I love it.
Go eat some vitamins or take a suppliment ...
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 9:39PM (Unverified) said
'You haven't mattered to me in quite some time so it's not likely to change anytime soon. '
(geez like that matters for anything.)
'Likewise Sk8 everyone knows you are a 360 fanboy'
(no johhny only you and other sony only ps3 fanboys/girls say that about me)
'You aren't even liked by anyone.'
(ahh how cute, johnny trying to be nice all of a sudden. whats new. called out your BS fanboy comment and you got mad.. haha.) and im not here to kiss ass and make friends. thats what real life is for.
from alton to johnny: 'What do you expect? He's a glorified PR rep'
johnny i guess you have the best rep on joystiq ;)
what PR was i spinning now johnnyboy? i was only calling out where you did and you got mad i guess.
write off billions of debt ? do you even know what you are talking about here ? have you taken a college level accounting course ?
you are lost in the way money is 'written' off from a companies books.
MS was not going through bankruptcy or anything and could not just erase things from their books. when MS set aside 2 billion dollars for RROD warranty services that money was deducted from their books that year (2006 i believe) and it made a big loss for MS that year.
when a company in bankruptcy writes off debt, it erases out of thin air and is gone forever.
i guess that was over your head though and you want to write off MS anyway you can. its ok. it doesnt make me mad at all, but i felt like calling your craptastic PR comment out, like a few others did.
johnny you get downvoted as much or more than I do on this site.. you fill this site with so much crap day after day...
why dont you goto your local gamestop and solicit kids into not buying xbox live for $ 3- $ 5 per month because you feel it is a rip off. ;)
I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE ON JOYSTIQ THINK JOHNNY WORKS FOR SONY IN SOME RESPECT ? I hear it all the time, and who else would make comments in the fashion johnny does so often ?
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(geez like that matters for anything.)
'Likewise Sk8 everyone knows you are a 360 fanboy'
(no johhny only you and other sony only ps3 fanboys/girls say that about me)
'You aren't even liked by anyone.'
(ahh how cute, johnny trying to be nice all of a sudden. whats new. called out your BS fanboy comment and you got mad.. haha.) and im not here to kiss ass and make friends. thats what real life is for.
from alton to johnny: 'What do you expect? He's a glorified PR rep'
johnny i guess you have the best rep on joystiq ;)
what PR was i spinning now johnnyboy? i was only calling out where you did and you got mad i guess.
write off billions of debt ? do you even know what you are talking about here ? have you taken a college level accounting course ?
you are lost in the way money is 'written' off from a companies books.
MS was not going through bankruptcy or anything and could not just erase things from their books. when MS set aside 2 billion dollars for RROD warranty services that money was deducted from their books that year (2006 i believe) and it made a big loss for MS that year.
when a company in bankruptcy writes off debt, it erases out of thin air and is gone forever.
i guess that was over your head though and you want to write off MS anyway you can. its ok. it doesnt make me mad at all, but i felt like calling your craptastic PR comment out, like a few others did.
johnny you get downvoted as much or more than I do on this site.. you fill this site with so much crap day after day...
why dont you goto your local gamestop and solicit kids into not buying xbox live for $ 3- $ 5 per month because you feel it is a rip off. ;)
I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE ON JOYSTIQ THINK JOHNNY WORKS FOR SONY IN SOME RESPECT ? I hear it all the time, and who else would make comments in the fashion johnny does so often ?
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 5:21PM (Unverified) said
Oh give me a break. You took it upon yourself to make a list.
Let's take a look at how you used your words: "ODST (expansion)... Uncharted 2 (goty)... Left 4 Dead 2 (also on PC)... Clank ACiT (iconic franchise - AAA blockbuster)..."
Yea, you're right. I don't see you outright bashing ODST. Just a complete contrast in tone you use with regards to those games.
So do I define my worth by personally insulting you? Not at all. I do however derive some enjoyment by calling out someone who apparently took it as a personal affront that someone who is getting paid to hype a particular system is trying to do so.
And contributing to a discussion? Sorry, I didn't see a discussion. I saw a rant about a PR person.
So all that being said, I do agree that Sony does have a better lineup this year.
Let's take a look at how you used your words: "ODST (expansion)... Uncharted 2 (goty)... Left 4 Dead 2 (also on PC)... Clank ACiT (iconic franchise - AAA blockbuster)..."
Yea, you're right. I don't see you outright bashing ODST. Just a complete contrast in tone you use with regards to those games.
So do I define my worth by personally insulting you? Not at all. I do however derive some enjoyment by calling out someone who apparently took it as a personal affront that someone who is getting paid to hype a particular system is trying to do so.
And contributing to a discussion? Sorry, I didn't see a discussion. I saw a rant about a PR person.
So all that being said, I do agree that Sony does have a better lineup this year.
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 5:52PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
At least your being fair about it. As I said I didn't bash ODSt and it is an expansion! You conviently left out the blurb where I praised Forza. L4D 2 is on the PC and ODSt is an expansion. What's your point? Uncharted 2 is goty (to me), R&C is an iconic franchise (to me), Gay Tony is DLC, shadow complex is an XBLA game and GOw does come with the #3 demo.
We all gotta get our hollies off some way and if replying to me gave you satisfaction then it all worked out! I let out some Greenberg frustration and you got into me for my rant. Win-Win.
Big deal I took Greenbergs comments to heart and ranted. You never went off on a rant?
I guess I don't see the point in the reply. You didn't like the contrast in tone? That's it?
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We all gotta get our hollies off some way and if replying to me gave you satisfaction then it all worked out! I let out some Greenberg frustration and you got into me for my rant. Win-Win.
Big deal I took Greenbergs comments to heart and ranted. You never went off on a rant?
I guess I don't see the point in the reply. You didn't like the contrast in tone? That's it?
Posted: Oct 16th 2009 10:31PM The Punisher said
This is EXACTLY why the Xbox will continue to outsell the PS3. Because there are soo soo many great Xbox 360 games out there and for bargain bin prices. With the arcade selling for $199 and games as low as $10 at Best Buy, why wouldn't you want to get your kid the Xbox 360 this Christmas!
Posted: Oct 17th 2009 12:08AM Premature ejaculation man said
Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts. At least give it a rent. Its the best







