By the time your average Dungeons and Dragons player has failed his third death save and gone off to that great dungeon in the sky, he or she's spent nearly $800,000 on miniatures and various-sided dice. (Trust us, it adds up.) Keeping that number in mind, we'd like to turn your attention to an alternative to tangible tabletop gaming: Surfacescapes, an in-development application for the Microsoft Surface, which attempts to recreate the D&D experience on an outrageously large touch screen. As the Surface currently costs $12,500, the lifetime savings would be abundant.
Sure, there's a few kinks to work out -- the dice roll a little slow for our tastes, though this would make saving throws infinitely more dramatic. There's also the small matter of how introducing this technology into the game might diminish the whole "role-playing" element. If used just for combat encounters, it could be a powerful streamlining tool. For everything else, it would need to be fitted with an Imagination Manifestation Drive™, and those don't exist yet.
Check out a demo of Surfacescape's proof of concept in the video after the jump.
[Via Engadget]
Reader Comments (28)
Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:22AM Mylivingeulogy said
Thats pretty cool, I guess... worth almost 13k? Probably not..
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:29AM NaeemTHM said
Surface is so much more that just D&D my friend. If I could afford one I would definitely get it.
Here watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP5y7yp06n0
Pretty cool, right?
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Here watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP5y7yp06n0
Pretty cool, right?
Posted: Oct 20th 2009 12:08PM Hunter2223 said
Posted: Oct 20th 2009 4:06PM Mylivingeulogy said
I wonder if the 'table' will have a bunch of preinstalled programs, or do you have to pay for all the software ontop of the 13k for the hardware?
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 3:44PM freaparn said
After extensive review and analysis, I'm going to go with "the truth hurts". It's ambitious gaming hardware released at a price point that's laughably unfeasible to the vast majority of the population.
The ironic thing is that if arcade culture was still widespread and financially viable, the Surface would function nicely in a NeoGeo-esque role: a standardized host platform with interchangeable games in an arcade setting. Compared to the standard pricing on arcade units, it's a steal!
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The ironic thing is that if arcade culture was still widespread and financially viable, the Surface would function nicely in a NeoGeo-esque role: a standardized host platform with interchangeable games in an arcade setting. Compared to the standard pricing on arcade units, it's a steal!
Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:34AM (Unverified) said
Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:37AM mr nimblewick said
Wow. Way to make the game last 3x longer than it has to.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:45AM (Unverified) said
Agreed, that dice roll is painfully slow and for no apparent purpose. It also seems odd that you need peripheral control objects. Couldn't different modes be activated with gestures rather than having to have a physical peripheral? Seems like a poor solution for interface.
Neat idea though and a great use of the technology but maybe a few refinements would make it really sweet.
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Neat idea though and a great use of the technology but maybe a few refinements would make it really sweet.
Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:56AM (Unverified) said
Note: Surface isn't a touch screen (for all intensive purposes). It uses an array of cameras to determine what is on/touching the surface.
So it makes me wonder, why not roll a real 20 sided? the surface could find the number, and then figure out what's showing at the top of the die based on what it sees on the bottom...
I've done the surface development demo, so I know this is totally possible... But they had to have tried that, right?
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So it makes me wonder, why not roll a real 20 sided? the surface could find the number, and then figure out what's showing at the top of the die based on what it sees on the bottom...
I've done the surface development demo, so I know this is totally possible... But they had to have tried that, right?
Posted: Oct 20th 2009 1:53PM Prestidigitator said
The cameras… do they look up at what's above the table or down at what's on the table? In the latter case I guess it's trivial to see the number that shows on the die. If it's the former, then it's a useful fact that opposite sides of any die always add up to the number of sides plus 1 :)
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 1:55PM User Formerly Known as Dave said
Note: "for all intensive purposes" = "for all intents and purposes"
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 2:26PM (Unverified) said
@Prestidigitator: There are (I believe) 5 cameras inside the unit, looking up at the surface. So I guess what you're saying is that 6 on the bottom of the die means 7 is showing?
@Dave: Thanks! haha
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@Dave: Thanks! haha
Posted: Oct 20th 2009 2:56PM (Unverified) said
Yes... I'm a programmer.
Yes... I know that making it recognize dice numbers could be hard.
No... it's not impossible. Especially for a demo, they'd only have to make it work with the dice they're using.
I don't think you follow here... it's not like you're throwing a coffee mug on the surface. The surface is just a surface, the cameras are UNDER it. In no way could you ever damage the cameras by rolling a die on the surface. And I think the surface could handle even a 100 sided die with out damage.
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Yes... I know that making it recognize dice numbers could be hard.
No... it's not impossible. Especially for a demo, they'd only have to make it work with the dice they're using.
I don't think you follow here... it's not like you're throwing a coffee mug on the surface. The surface is just a surface, the cameras are UNDER it. In no way could you ever damage the cameras by rolling a die on the surface. And I think the surface could handle even a 100 sided die with out damage.
Posted: Oct 20th 2009 2:58PM geoff0011 said
This is the only way that I would be able to play D&D. I have some really good friends who get together for D&D, I'll go just to hang out, but I just can't get into "imagining" it all. I need some sort of application like this to make it seem worth it. It's like Eye of Judgment. I don't like card battle games, but EoJ is the one I DO like because there is something visual attached to it, makes it a lot more fun for me.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 12:35PM shimrra74 said
HOLY SHIT is that fucking amazing. That is straight up some Star Trek type interface there. The price is way to high but just the idea is fantastic I say in less than 5 years you will see those in every major retail stores priced more competitively.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 12:38PM Stevetrop Man of Mystery said
Ah yes my purple crown royal bag filled up with dice. Your making me go back to my days of playing D&D every Tuesday & Thursday. I had all those wonderful colored multiple sided dice D20, D6, D8, D4, D12, D100. Great times I had with them playing as my drunken Half-Elf Ranger who would get my party into more trouble than they wanted to get into.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 1:34PM rahmenxnoodles69 said
Anybody out there actually own Microsoft Surface?
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