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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:02PM (Unverified) said

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Capcom is anti-consumer they deserve to be boycotted.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:25PM (Unverified) said

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You're thinking of Activision. I'm sick of Capcom, too, tho.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 12:45AM (Unverified) said

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the boss is so cheap lol

iam mean literaly its like pre played

i bee hiting him and it cut and i appear in his arm torwing me around like wtf?
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 4:18AM Morisato13 said

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Seth in SFIV is actually not all that hard. The first time I played him, he was tough, but once you realize that he's just a program, all it takes is figuring out how your character can take advantage of his programming flaws.

For example, I use C.Viper and on the hardest difficulty, all you need to do is wait in the crouching block position until he does that spin kick at you. Once he does that, just spam LP thunder knuckle and you'll constantly get him no matter what he tries to do.

Now, as a counter example, I also use El Fuerte and on a human player, you can easily win with a good mix up of slides, front slams, back slams, and throws, but vs Seth as a program, he will ALWAYS know what you're going to do... the best way to down Seth as El Fuerte is to wait until he jumps in at you (which he will do constantly) and counter it.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 9:17AM (Unverified) said

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Pretty soon the internet kiddies won't have anymore companies to boycott by next year at this rate. Idiots.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 11:20AM Manifest37 said

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I as well had a hard time with Seth on my maiden fight with him, but weeks later I no longer spent 2 hours trying to beat him.

I don't remember where I read this, but the best way to beat him is to invoke Sweepfest '09!! You have to be close enough to sweep but not so close that he can easily grab you.
That's the surefire way to defeat him with characters you may not be so good with, but when it comes to your go-to fighter, you have no excuse.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 11:23AM Manifest37 said

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That & I place matches to 1 round & 30 seconds!
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 11:33AM Sarge said

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Oh, he's hard, alright. But as stated above, he gets a bit easier once you figure out the AI flaws. The easiest thing to do is play a spacing game and bait him into the crouching Dhalsim-stretch punch. Wide open for jump kick / foot sweep. It's still tough to execute, and you have to have a good knowledge of evasive tactics should you break this pattern, but it should enable pretty much any character to win.

I'm not sure I like the idea of this guy being even cheaper, though. There are clearly times where even in his current incarnation, you get CPU-assisted compensation. Or at least pro-level ability to pull moves. That spinning piledriver makes you want to scream sometimes.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 12:57PM seishino said

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If the only way to beat a character is to exploit AI flaws, that character is poorly constructed. And Seth is a pretty generic and forgettable final boss design anyway, whose only memorable quality is the degree that his cheapness makes you hate the developers.

I'm glad to see that he's getting some attention from the development team. The optimist in me hopes this will result in a better rounded version of the character. As it is, he's by far the least compelling character, and the only character I'd advocate removing for SSFIV.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 10:22PM Mistah said

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I still have yet to unlock all the characters in Street Fighter IV, for the simple fact that is so redundant to do. Thank god all characters are unlocked at the start.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 12:17AM TypeF said

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There's a way to beat seth easy without being hurt. Every fighting game has a way to beat the last boss because they are program to do the same bullshit moves over and over again. All you need to do is knock him down once and get close to him before he gets up and then when he's about to get up like 1 sec after you jump over he will automatly do a uppercut punch or his special and you just low kick knock him out or grab his ass and just loop it over and over again lol. If you have trouble just look at youtube how is done XD
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 12:27AM (Unverified) said

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Seth was cheap when the game just came out... But now that I've been playing for a while and actually using SFIV tactics. . . SETH is a CUPCAKE. . . I play arcade mode on hard all the time...

But if anyone is "STILL" having problems with Seth the CPU then you prolly won't have any chance what so ever against an actual SETH player
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 9:37AM Misfit Toy said

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Agreed. The thought of playing through all the characters only to get to a cheap end boss. Well, needless to say I don't have half of the characters unlocked. Even on easy it is ridiculous.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 10:31PM Mistah said

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It isn't that it's hard, but it's boring. I don't want to play arcade mode with characters I don't have fun with just to get all the characters in the game. I don't buy fighting games to go through arcade mode over and over again; I buy it to play against other players.

This is a problem I had with Guitar Hero and Rock Band; you had to go through the story mode to get every song, which can be time consuming and boring if you just want to pick up the game and pop it in to play with friends. And thankfully, the developers fixed that by making all songs at the start.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:06PM PR0F3TA said

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i remember for the longest i wanted to get this game but something always stopped me from getting it money, bills, school, ect... now i just keep thinking, thank God
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:08PM Special Agent Steve said

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Hardest boss I ever played... COD4MW Mile High Club on Veteran.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:10PM VIDEOGAMES said

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Dare we say this boss is SUPER hard?
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:12PM Special Agent Steve said

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He sure is a fighter...
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:13PM Sly C said

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on the street.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:32PM Special Agent Steve said

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*spacebar*
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:12PM Carac said

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Bought the first Street Fighter IV with enthusiasm...Capcom just ensured I'm not buying the second...period. I was on the fence about Super SF4 but this just ran a truck into the fence throwing me 50 feet backwards onto the not buy side.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:18PM MC Double Def DP said

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You play the Street Fighter series for the CPU boss fights?
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 10:42AM Unvrfd said

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I do.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:12PM Shane86 said

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Worst boss ever, more cheap than difficult.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 8:59AM Uncle Jesse said

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Agreed. And his name is Seth. The boss' name... is Seth. It makes it very easy to hate him without even fighting him when you see a picture of him and know his name is Seth.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 10:21AM (Unverified) said

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Gill would punk Seth all day long.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:12PM Platy said

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And the "SNK boss syndrome" is becoming "Capcom boss syndrome" in 3 ... 2....
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 1:18AM Stevetrop Man of Mystery said

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Lets just pray they don't decide to go into DOA boss syndrome. Having some sort of end boss fight where they can morph into various shapes, take 2/3rds of you life with a 3 hit combo, and has a series of unblockable attacks, and having kick your ass with G sized breasts.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 11:25AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah the Boss at the end of DOA3 was damn near impossible
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:15PM shattercross said

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I don't know Igniz was damn near impossible in Kof 2001.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:16PM (Unverified) said

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The unlocking in sf4 was not a fun time. Really sucked for kids who mained as seth at tournaments.

I remember at a local tourney we had to wait hours for things to get going because they had to unlock Seth on at least one of the hard drives.

Glad to see Capcom unlocking all characters from the start. Doubleplusgood.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 1:22AM emperorzeroxx said

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Fighting Seth on EASY so far has been harder than ANY person I ever fought online....... you guys are telling me he's even harder now???

Hopefully one of the new characters will be cheaper than him so I can kick his nekkid arse to next tuesday!
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:22PM willooi said

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My favourite hardest boss was The End in MGS3. Bloody incredible battle that was, just trying to find the bastard.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:24PM (Unverified) said

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oh, go to hell, Capcom. I've had it with your crap. I'm officially not buying your games New anymore, only used. that's right, you've just been Activision'ed.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 12:04AM (Unverified) said

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So it's just me that's irritated by Capcom, then? lol. I seem to remember a lot of angry commenters after they announced Resident Evil 5 versus mode, hmm? oh, well. down-vote all you like.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:25PM DudemanJones said

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How have you people completely forgotten the king of cheap, Gill?

Famed for having an automatic super art that RESTORED ALL HIS HEALTH AFTER YOU BEAT HIM IN A ROUND!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:27PM emirabal said

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Capcom historically has always made the boss fights difficult from what i remember. Still sucks though.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:28PM Double J said

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There is nothing fun about fighting a guy that has attacks that can seriously fuck you up from ANY range. So what are they going to do? Is he going to come through your television screen and dry anally violate you?
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 12:13AM Sly C said

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yes. he'll also kick your kittens/puppies and beat your gf/wife.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:32PM DudemanJones said

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You know, I've about had it with people whining that Capcom is releasing Super Street Fighter IV. IT'S FUCKING STREET FIGHTER!!!!! THIS IS WHAT STREET FIGHTER DOES!!!!! THEY'VE DONE THIS FOR THE LAST 15 FUCKING YEARS!!!!! THIS IS NOT NEW!!!! IT'S BUSINESS AS USUAL!!!!! AND THE UPDATED VERSIONS ARE ALWAYS FUCKING BETTER!!!!! YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT!!!!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS, THEN IT'S NOT FOR YOU ANYWAY!!! IT'S FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEE THE GAME CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AS IT HAS DONE BACK SINCE STREET FIGHTER II!!!!!

Jeeze...
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:39PM (Unverified) said

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yeah, but it was ok back in 19fucking94 because they didn't have DLC on the damn SNES. Capcom has repeatedly shown an insistence on clinging to outdated gaming conventions, and I, for one, am getting kinda tired of it. oh, I'm sorry that was supposed to be typed IN ALL CAPS!!!11!!1 OUTRAGE!!1!
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:39PM Benjamin Gilbert said

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When you write in all caps, a kitten goes deaf.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:50PM Sly C said

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and a bat goes blind. not that YOU care...
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 12:16AM WiredKnight said

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Meh, bats can't see that well in the first place.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 1:20AM vmenge said

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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 5:20PM Sly C said

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that was the joke, retard. that's why i said "not that you care"
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:32PM (Unverified) said

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Seth was only cheap for a little while.. Once you get used to him, it's just a matter of blocking and counter-attacking..


In other news: I can't effing wait for SSF:IV.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2009 3:45PM BlazeKing said

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Yep. And I used to think M. Bison was cheap back in the SF2, until I learned to block instead of just trying to rush him.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:35PM samfish said

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"After Capcom's Seth Killian (no relation) spoke with"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that SFIV's Seth IS in fact named after Seth Killian.

...so...there would be a relation.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2009 11:40PM Benjamin Gilbert said

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You're right. Edited.
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