Splitfish brings the Fragchuck back just in time for Modern Warfare

"I tried."

That's what SHE said.

it's not a real mouse.

i bought the last revision of this "fragfx" (never really even used the damn thing, so am a bit pissed they have a cordless version now - the wires are really annoying).

anyway the "mouse" isn't a real mouse as such, it just emulates the right analogue stick movement, so it can be quite jerky, not like a real mouse. it doesn't work great for all games, for example it is shit in Killzone 2 because of their weird delayed controls... i heard it worked well in COD4 but don't own that game so dont know, so it may work well in MW2

overall the thing is cheap looking, cheap plastic feel... buttons are programmable, and the nunchuck bit has sixaxis

if you do get one, just don't expect it to be anything like a PC mouse/PC Gaming, it isn't. if you're coming from PC gaming to PS3, it is an improvement over using analogue sticks which you're just not used to, but it will be nothing like a real mouse, not as precise also don't expect it to work great on all games, you can change the sensitivity, but as i said it sucks on Killzone 2... generally you have to spend time tweaking it some to find the right setting for you

as for people who don't like it or think its unfair - no it isn't, you can get one too, they're for sale for everybody, and honestly it isn't anything like a real mouse (unless they've seriously improved this revision). somebody who is good at analogue stick FPS gaming would kick my ass easily if I was using this thing.

@cyruss

I was wondering: Is this anything like a real mouse?

@cyruss

I dont have the thing but I've played COD4 and killzone 2 and I dont think the issue is with the mouse itself. Killzone 2 has a lag input no matter what you use so even using the analog sticks is hard when playing killzone 2.

sorry yeh thats what i meant, its terrible in killzone 2 because of that input lag

ive only got 2 fps games for ps3, killzone 2 and bad company, it works ok on bad company, not great but a lot better than killzone 2.

I had the old one and it was alright. Like he said it isnt like a regular mouse and cant be like a regular mouse. Most games dont support mouse input so it just emulates the right stick. I mainly used mine on ut3 and owned with it. You need to mess with both in game settings and the dial on the fragchuck. It also take quite a bit to get used to. I played with it on killzone 2 and it was fine. its the same with every game you just really need to mess with the settings. put the sensitivity on high and that should do it. Oh an yeah i know several people who had the old one including me that it broke on us. the mouse just stoped responding. I think its something with the cables or something.

It doesn't work well with Killzone 2 because the game itself has a lock on the sensitivity.

On the other hand, it works extremely well in Rainbow Six Vegas 2. Tell you, I wouldn't passed that level where you were alone without the FragFX.

It honestly works like a real mouse: Left-click to shoot, etc.

Just think of the left-stick as WASD.

I tried that with Mirror's Edge for PC when I found out you could use keyboard/mouse and a 360 controller simultaneously.

Felt weird.

dont think so no... i have the prior wired version of this, and the thing is cheap flimsy plastic with real clicky buttons.... its not anything like a real gaming mouse at all, so even if you could use it in your PC i dont think you'd want to

i have the fragfxv2 also, i thought it was rubbish on Killzone 2 though with the delayed controls the game has... not tried it recently if there was some sort of new patch that helps it

i heard it works a lot better on Cod4 tho (so prolly will work well on MW2). anyway it is helpful for those (like me) who came from pc gaming and just cannot use analogue sticks at all.... but it in no way makes it feel like a true mouse or true pc gaming, it is only emulating the analogue stick so movement of it is still limited

yes, with High-Precision mode turned on, the V2 fragfx actually worked pretty well for KZ2.

High-Precision mode? whats that? :)

i think i need to dust off Killzone 2 again... hell i never even finished singleplayer, was on one of the last missions at the palace, but just couldnt beat it, was on the balcony and waves and waves or enemies would come and i'd be there for 20 mins just killing them and wasn't progressing anywhere... i was prolly doing something wrong but it pissed me off so i put it away and never went back to it :P

High-Precision is an option they added to a patch several months ago, it decreases the reticle acceleration the game used before. it's actually quite nice. also, you were mere minutes from the end of the game when you quit, depending on how quickly you can take out Radec. once you kill the last of those waves of enemies on the second floor catwalks, he comes out and cheaps his way to victory a couple of times, then you figure out how to destroy him. there's a trophy for beating him in under 20 minutes. my time (including deaths) ended at 19:35, lol. fire it back up, man!

'Chucks are the new black. I tried the Frag Pro at E3 and decided right then and there that the Wii Nunchuk was one of the greatest ever innovations for FPS gaming. You get the benefits of analog movement in one hand and pair it with a precision controller (mouse, Wiimote, PSWand) in the other for aiming. The Frag Pro is PC compatible, and the build quality is improved over the Frag FX. I hope Splitfish will try marketing it to PC gamers, because 'chucks are so much more comfortable and practical than those keyboard-styled controllers.

So this can acutally work on the PC? I didn't know PS3 uses USB device that can be plugged into the PC. Now it looks more interesting.

@Unknown
Yep, and some PC USB controllers will work on the PS3. I use a USB Sega "Saturn" pad for all my SFIV hadoukening on PS3.

i wonder this also, and really dont know why... maybe they think ppl dont want to use a mouse, since they're sitting on a couch or whatever and dont have a desk to put it on?

it annoys me really, since everyone is pushing this motion controller nonsense now --- if they don't have a major problem giving us alternative controllers like motion control, why not give us a mouse/keyboard option as well.

It's because of the increased accuracy. If a multiplayer game had true M/Kb support, the M/Kb players would dominate every time. This is just a mouse shaped version of a right stick. It works pretty well, but is definitely not as twitchable as the real deal.

yeh but the mouse on the fragfx only emulates the analogue stick movement, so it is still somewhat limited and does not feel like a real mouse, its an improvement for people coming from pc gaming who can't use analogue sticks to save their life, but it isn't the same as a pc mouse.

anyway i don't think it is too much a problem, consoles have always had different controllers that had a better competitive edge... turbo buttons and fight sticks

i do think and wish that they would just allow us plug in a real mouse into our console and let us all play with a real mouse, true pc mouse (none of this emulated nonsense) is the only real way to play an FPS, analogue sticks are so limited :(

I can remember playing doom on the SNES

now THAT was limited

yeh i got the last one too... rarely used it and it was expensive and like u said wasn't great quality

this one looks so much better, and cordless... damn the wires were so annoying, i really want this now but can't justify buying it since i only bought the last one a few months ago and never really used it! BAH!

I don't like the DualShock, period. I feel like I can crush the thing in my hands, the analog sticks feel way too loose, and it just feels awkward holding it.

lol, i know i'm in the minority here, but i'm much more proficient with the dualshock than the 360's controller. the button layout feels more comfortable to me, especially with those Gioteck triggers on it - http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/5675248/Gioteck-Real-Triggers-For-PS3/Product.html. i don't care for the offset layout of the analog sticks on 360, it feels awkward to me, but the 360s triggers are excellent.