Gamasutra breaks down console sales in light of price cuts
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If you're like us -- and, we figure after all these years we've been secretly brainwashing you, you are -- then the recent console price cuts were met with your curiosity over how these discounts would affect the vast gaming sales landscape. Fortunately, Gamasutra has posted a chart (using NPD figures) that measures how the price cuts altered two factors: each console's average sale price during the month of September and its year-to-date sales (through September).
This first figure proves the most telling about how the market reacted to the slashed prices. For instance, the average price at which PS3s were purchased in September was a flat $300; meaning an overwhelming majority of buyers responded favorably to the discount. Though the price of the Wii didn't get cut until the last week of September, the console's average price dropped to $218 -- also indicative of a reactionary market surge. The average Xbox 360 purchased price, however, actually increased by a buck to $261. By Gamasutra's calculations, folks purchased three Elites ($300) for every Arcade model ($200) sold during the month.
The PS3 was the top-selling console in September, which is the first time it's ever managed a first-place sales finish. It's still in last place in the 2009 year-to-date totals, though, and Sony's system would need to outsell Xbox 360 by about 35,000 units every week until the end of the year to break even with its competitor. Passing up the Wii, however, would require an act of divine intervention -- Nintendo's console is currently sitting on YTD sales of 4 million, which is more than twice the total of PS3 sales.
Reader Comments (64)
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 10:06AM (Unverified) said
I don't think Sony can do it. Maybe, but they've got a long way to go.
I wouldn't count out the huge number of releases early next year, though. That should keep things at holiday levels.
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I wouldn't count out the huge number of releases early next year, though. That should keep things at holiday levels.
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 10:54AM (Unverified) said
You Also have to realize that 360 was out an entire year before PS3. That's a year of sales the 360 saw and PS3 didn't.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 1:41PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
he didn't say it affected this year...just that if the PS3 doesn't catch up that is why...
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 10:24AM (Unverified) said
So Infamous (which I don't like at all but it's a core game), Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Ratchet, MLB 09, Demon's Souls etc etc etc aren't real games? Have I been confused into thinking they were all real games when really they were just casual minigame compilations?
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 10:30AM Vegeta has a ps3 said
Really? So the games that I've been playing on both my 360, ps3, and Wii aren't Real games. But GoW and *snicker* Versus is?
Jeez, I mean besides show us the same CG trailer for the past three years, Squenix hasn't done much to show that this game even fucking exists.
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Jeez, I mean besides show us the same CG trailer for the past three years, Squenix hasn't done much to show that this game even fucking exists.
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 11:09AM (Unverified) said
Are you serious? The graphics on FF XIII are excellent. Besides, it's the gameplay that counts. I'm guessing you have never played a Final Fantasy game.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 7:41PM TypeF said
damn you fanboys i understand those are great games but come on now...you guys overreacting over over what i just said....most of the game you guys mention i have but seriously face reality old gamers from ps2 would know WHAT IS GOW AND FF. Tell me not that majority of the 360 owners are from ps2 uh? am i wrong or what? 360 gamers don't see what U2 really is. They know old school game and not new school face reality you dumb fanboys. I ain't trashing something that i personally have lol is rediculous when making 1 real statement you all jump in crying hahah
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 7:47PM TypeF said
@Traceur_Ryuk
tbh definition of a dumb fanboy is that they can't face reality when knowing the truth that 360 are actually beating ps3 and wii beating overall. As much as i want ps3 to win i know that this year it wont beat it because people don't know much about ps3 games except old school ones such as MGS - Rachet - Killzone (which 1 failed) and the other new IPs that tmacairjordan87 mentioned only new comers to ps3 would really see them. Don't get me wrong those new IPs are great but seriously the real games which were in ps2 have yet to come. All those players are on the 360 right now and is the truth.
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tbh definition of a dumb fanboy is that they can't face reality when knowing the truth that 360 are actually beating ps3 and wii beating overall. As much as i want ps3 to win i know that this year it wont beat it because people don't know much about ps3 games except old school ones such as MGS - Rachet - Killzone (which 1 failed) and the other new IPs that tmacairjordan87 mentioned only new comers to ps3 would really see them. Don't get me wrong those new IPs are great but seriously the real games which were in ps2 have yet to come. All those players are on the 360 right now and is the truth.
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 8:29PM (Unverified) said
Actually, i agree with TypeF, makes lots of sense. I was a proud owner of a PS2, and am now a even prouder owner of a 360, and seriously, 360 FTW. I have never heard of those ps3 "exclusives", but as of now i'm waiting for gow - ff13 and specially ffvs13 because is exclusive and ico team and hope for kingdom heart 3.
This is for you Jack Tretton, you better listen to this because us 360 owners will be waiting for them "real" games.
PS: btw, is this really you Jack "Off" Tretton?
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This is for you Jack Tretton, you better listen to this because us 360 owners will be waiting for them "real" games.
PS: btw, is this really you Jack "Off" Tretton?
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 10:07AM (Unverified) said
1st, 2nd, or last, I just hope Sony keeps releasing quality games like Uncharted 2 etc.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 10:13AM (Unverified) said
It doesn't-you've got to click the link to see the original article.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 10:21AM GewurztraminerX said
I don't think Sony's too worried... they still have another 7 years left to their 'plan' =]
I might pick one up myself in 2011. Nothing against the PS3, there just aren't any 'must haves' that I don't already have access to via Wii or 360. Yet.
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I might pick one up myself in 2011. Nothing against the PS3, there just aren't any 'must haves' that I don't already have access to via Wii or 360. Yet.
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 11:01AM (Unverified) said
I'm not trying to be a fanboy, this is a legitimate question. What are some good games on 360 besides Halo and Gears? I honestly want to know becuase I own an arcade and the only game I own is Fable II and I might pick up a Live account soon.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 11:33AM (Unverified) said
I'm not talking about XBLA titles, and Orange Box is also on PS3.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 11:37AM Vcize said
I'm not going to start listing off all the exclusives for fear of the dreaded "list warz!" witch hunt, but you really owe it to yourself to at the very least pick up Mass Effect, Left 4 Dead (although may as well just grab the sequel at this point), and Crackdown. Especially if you have buddies to play with, there aren't many co-op games in existence more fun than Crackdown and L4D.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 11:56AM Uncle Jesse said
I'll do the list thing for ya, even though I question how legitimate that question really is...
Forza 3 (out now), L4D2, Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake, Crackdown 2 are some upcoming games. If you already own a 360 but only have that one game, you're missing out on some great older games, too. I know you mentioned Halo and Gears, but if you get a Live account, those two games are awesome to play online. Gears' co-op campaign is sweet. If you do get on Live, you're going to want to get some of the XBLA games like Shadow Complex, Splosion Man, Trials, Castle Crashers, Braid, for example. Don't overlook them just because they are download titles. Some of them are better than full priced, disc games.
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Forza 3 (out now), L4D2, Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake, Crackdown 2 are some upcoming games. If you already own a 360 but only have that one game, you're missing out on some great older games, too. I know you mentioned Halo and Gears, but if you get a Live account, those two games are awesome to play online. Gears' co-op campaign is sweet. If you do get on Live, you're going to want to get some of the XBLA games like Shadow Complex, Splosion Man, Trials, Castle Crashers, Braid, for example. Don't overlook them just because they are download titles. Some of them are better than full priced, disc games.
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 11:59AM GewurztraminerX said
I don't know that I really play many 360 exclusives, to be honest. I mostly use it for Rock Band, Netflix, and XBLA games. Brutal Legend now, as well.
Forza 2 is pretty good (and cheap these days). I'll be working on that one for quite some time before I even look at Forza 3, which just came out. Though, you're going to need an HDD if you want Forza 3.
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Forza 2 is pretty good (and cheap these days). I'll be working on that one for quite some time before I even look at Forza 3, which just came out. Though, you're going to need an HDD if you want Forza 3.
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 12:03PM (Unverified) said
I'm probably gonna pick up Crackdown and Crackdown 2, I don't get the appeal of L4D though. I'm definitely getting Alan Wake when it comes out, and I'm not too big into racing games. I mean games that I can pick up now, because my blu-ray on my PS3 is dead.
As for the XBLA titles, I own Braid on PC. But yeah, I'll check some of those other ones out.
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As for the XBLA titles, I own Braid on PC. But yeah, I'll check some of those other ones out.
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 12:46PM (Unverified) said
so yo can play killzone2, resistence1 and 2, ratchet n clank, infamous, demons souls, granturismo 5, uncharted 1 and 2, god of war 3, heavy rain, MGS4, etc,etc,etc on your 360 and WII? Fact is ps3 has more end better exclusives than 360.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 1:09PM GewurztraminerX said
I never said I could play those. I said I don't want to.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 4:33PM kentuckyfried said
imo, the 360's exclusives list is weaksauce now that Bioshock is removed from the picture.
(I mean I do have Condemned and Dead Rising to play on the 360)
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(I mean I do have Condemned and Dead Rising to play on the 360)
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 10:21AM mikepaul said
So, what will it mean to the pundits when I buy my PS3: that I consider it BETTER than my 360? Not based on what *I've* read. Must-have games for it just seem to finally have arrived.
I bought Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls now since they were cheap NOW, and will get the PS3 when I can afford it, probably with tax return money. Unless things change once I play for a while, I believe the 360 will still be the choice for multi-platform titles...
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I bought Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls now since they were cheap NOW, and will get the PS3 when I can afford it, probably with tax return money. Unless things change once I play for a while, I believe the 360 will still be the choice for multi-platform titles...
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 11:06AM (Unverified) said
@Zefur: That's actually what a lot of people do. You grab the games while they're cheap. That way you gave plenty of games when you get your console.
Anyways, since you're buying a PS3, I suggest picking up Warhawk, inFamous, and Killzone. Terrific games
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Anyways, since you're buying a PS3, I suggest picking up Warhawk, inFamous, and Killzone. Terrific games
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 12:04PM (Unverified) said
1000 hours?! I have never even imagined spending that much on a game. No wonder you got tired of it.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 2:01PM MrAhh said
die hard warhawk fans are sick people, much like the COD4 players and the SOCOM fiends. they don't quit i wish i had that sort of attention span to play one game for so long. I have this guy on my friends list that has, what was it I think about 141 days playing COD4 multiplayer around 3500 hours.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 3:03PM mikepaul said
Ummm, plenty of games seem to sit at the $60 price-point for quite a while, so $40 each at Best Buy (Brutal Legend for the 360 was the third) seemed like a good way to go.
It just doesn't seem like a good idea to pay for the console NOW. I'm in the middle of a bunch of 360 games, and with two PS3 games staring at me occasionally I'll HAVE to get around to the console rather than drag my feet forever...
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It just doesn't seem like a good idea to pay for the console NOW. I'm in the middle of a bunch of 360 games, and with two PS3 games staring at me occasionally I'll HAVE to get around to the console rather than drag my feet forever...
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 10:37AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
The Wii price drop isn't going to draw many more sales.....they have got the market pretty saturated, I still say that introducing new colors would have generated more sales than a price drop....
Then there is the 360 "Price drop" where they simply phased out the 60GB HDD and replace it with a 120GB HDD.....sorry but I don't see that as a price drop at all....especially considering they took out $100 in cables and games...
The PS3 Price drop is the one that stands to generate the most sales....assuming Sony continues to market it right and we see plenty of 3rd party titles with "PS3" at the end like we have the 360 ones for the past 3+ years
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Then there is the 360 "Price drop" where they simply phased out the 60GB HDD and replace it with a 120GB HDD.....sorry but I don't see that as a price drop at all....especially considering they took out $100 in cables and games...
The PS3 Price drop is the one that stands to generate the most sales....assuming Sony continues to market it right and we see plenty of 3rd party titles with "PS3" at the end like we have the 360 ones for the past 3+ years
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 11:09AM (Unverified) said
A price drop is a price drop. They gimped the cables (not sure what you mean by games) but it's not like either of it's competitors are packing monster cables or games either so...
I would like to see the PS3 (unless they changed it) come with some better cables. The ones it comes with suck especially when your console has a blu-ray player as it's main selling point.
Either way, it's looking good. I just finished Uncharted 2 and games like that come across very rarely. All three consoles seem to have some really good stuff coming really soon and I for one can't wait.
Now, if I could just finish Demon Souls...
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I would like to see the PS3 (unless they changed it) come with some better cables. The ones it comes with suck especially when your console has a blu-ray player as it's main selling point.
Either way, it's looking good. I just finished Uncharted 2 and games like that come across very rarely. All three consoles seem to have some really good stuff coming really soon and I for one can't wait.
Now, if I could just finish Demon Souls...
Posted: Oct 27th 2009 11:30AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
no they never had monster cables in the packaging that would be worse as they cost even more....they had MS branded HDMI cable in there that retails for $40-50 as WELL as Component cables.....hadn't seen anywhere that says the new "Elites" come with anything other than Composite cables...and I have said over and over again that Sony should have at LEAST put some $5 HDMI cables in at least ONE of the SKUs, maybe they still will
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Posted: Oct 27th 2009 1:20PM Mr Khan said
I disagree. The Wii's price drop just isn't going to be as much of a sudden spike as PS3's was, because it wasn't that much of a drop, and it wasn't dropping from a prohibitively high price to a non-prohibitive one, but the effect is there
For instance, worldwide week-to-week sales (according to VGChartz) were *up* for Wii the 2nd week after the price-drop. So we could see a more sustained effect leading into the holidays.
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For instance, worldwide week-to-week sales (according to VGChartz) were *up* for Wii the 2nd week after the price-drop. So we could see a more sustained effect leading into the holidays.
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