Epic Mickey was originally an epic PC, PS3 & 360 game
by JC Fletcher 
{ Oct 28th 2009 at 6:50PM } 
When the issue of a Wii port was raised, Spector told Disney that it wasn't going to work. "It needs to be its own game. A lot of the design ideas just won't work on the Wii, we need to give the Wii its dues." In response, Disney Interactive's Graham Hopper suggested that the game simply be a Wii exclusive, thus solving the problem of a subpar Wii port and addressing Spector's desire to focus on a single platform. That single platform just happened to be none of the ones for which the game was initially planned!
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solarshadows074 @ Oct 28th 2009 6:52PM
well that just grinds my gears
solarshadows074 @ Oct 28th 2009 6:56PM
and to Mr. Graham Hopper of disney interactive who suggested this to be a Wii exclusive, i hate you, with a passion of thousand burning suns.
Zal @ Oct 28th 2009 7:20PM
Agreed, that's just a bummer. If it stayed that way then I'd wager more people would have played it and it would have had more power behind it. Oh well, I'm sure it'll still be good but I'd rather play it on a traditional controler if I was given the choice.
I think it was a bad idea to make this information public.
Brodo @ Oct 28th 2009 7:59PM
Im just gonna hand Marius a shovel, so he can dig himself deeper into his hole
Everyone else... sit back and enjoy the show
Brysonial the Bison @ Oct 28th 2009 8:05PM
Why not have made it for all systems maby the graphics would at least be good then the graphics on epic mickey are bad for wii, and thats pretty dang bad. I mean xbox, play station, and computer all have the ability for great graphics. Wii not so much. The concept art for epic mickey was amazing and actually made me somewhat excited for a mickey mouse game. WHAT excited for a mickey mouse game, now that is epic. But apperently the graphics are not turning out as we expected so for now bye bye hipe.
Autobot (Now with Vitamin D)! @ Oct 28th 2009 8:17PM
I agree, no goofy no love know goofy know love
Ridgecity @ Oct 28th 2009 9:10PM
The problem is when a situation like Brutal Legend happens.They aimed the game for the big budget game market, and spent a big coin for it, Famous developers, famous actors with big paycuts, a big hype for it by all blogs (where they seem to appear as if they never actually played the game or were prohibited from talking), a massive soundtrack full of great music, a massive promotional campaign from tv ads to Jack Black public appearances promoting the game, etc. etc.
BUT...
Once the reviews came in, EVERYONE trashed the game, and the people that could have bought the game knew it sucked, and bought something else.
This game would have done 10x better on the Wii, because Wii game reviews don't matter. Now think about the massive market it has, no interest in reviews, and the appeal Mickey Mouse has with the Super Mario Bros crowd.
You have to be crazy to go for the HD fps crowd. with a game like this that could be easily forgotten, where as the Wii profits will pay for the HD sequel.
tmacairjordan87 @ Oct 28th 2009 6:53PM
After seeing today's first screens, it definitely looks like they made the wrong decision. Then again it looks bad even for a Wii game, so now I don't really have any faith that they could have done better on 360/ps3.
Traceur_Ryuk [All Digital until December] (PSN: Ryuk_shinigami) @ Oct 28th 2009 7:19PM
Show Warren Specter some damn respect. I have full faith in this game, the graphics aren't even that bad.
tmacairjordan87 @ Oct 28th 2009 7:23PM
http://www.joystiq.com/photos/disney-epic-mickey/2402102/
http://www.joystiq.com/photos/disney-epic-mickey/2402081/
Cmon, that's borderline early ps2 right there. Developers get my praise and respect when they make a good game, but they do not get the benefit of the doubt with the next game. They have to constantly impress, or face backlashes like the ones all over the internet today from this poor unveiling. It's supposed to keep people from becoming lazy.
If Specter's such a god, then he should know that your first impression is the most important whether it's in the business world or life in general.
Hyams @ Oct 28th 2009 7:25PM
Pretty sure Warren Specter has little control over what the graphics look like on a technical level.
Traceur_Ryuk [All Digital until December] (PSN: Ryuk_shinigami) @ Oct 28th 2009 7:25PM
OK, so what if the graphics aren't the greatest. First of all, the game isn't close to finished (Fall 2010 release). Secondly, are you saying every game before the PS2 is bad due to graphical limitations?
tmacairjordan87 @ Oct 28th 2009 7:29PM
"Secondly, are you saying every game before the PS2 is bad due to graphical limitations?"
http://www.thesuperest.com/heroes/k108_spindoctor.jpg
Come on, you know what I'm talking about here. Don't play that game with me, I watch enough Fox News to know when someone's trying to spin things.
But I'll entertain you anyway, in case someone actually doesn't get it. No, ps2 graphics were fine....5 years ago when the last gen was current gen. I don't expect ps2 graphics on a higher powered system. It's pure laziness.
ArchiGamer @ Oct 28th 2009 7:36PM
If you want a bad looking Wii game that is worse than this, I'd direct attention to MW Reflex.
Traceur_Ryuk [All Digital until December] (PSN: Ryuk_shinigami) @ Oct 28th 2009 7:34PM
Ok, well, like I said, the game isn't finished. I predict they are gonna cel-shade it before it's finalized.
ArchiGamer [Wiizer Sweatshop Human Resources] @ Oct 28th 2009 7:40PM
Its a cel-shaded game, I doubt it will look any different on any console.
ArchiGamer @ Oct 28th 2009 7:44PM
OFF topic, but....FINALLY I can comment, I had to use my old account to post anything!!
Giroro @ Oct 28th 2009 8:45PM
@ArchiGamer
Sure it has cartoony textures and object geometry in the screenshots, but this game is not, i repeat IS NOT CEL-SHADED. (Borderlands isn't cel-shaded either, I would also like to point that out.)
Anyways, Epic Mickey's visuals kinda reminds be of Beyond Good & Evil, except that BG&E has better graphics.
Ridgecity @ Oct 28th 2009 9:21PM
you guys got it wrong. The first thing that should be the focus on a game is the gameplay. NOT GRAPHICS.
For a game that's still ONE YEAR away, you are expecting too much. and considering the Wii HD is going to be released in two months according to Gizmodo.com, they gotta still add HD, lol.
rells009 @ Oct 28th 2009 9:26PM
@Giroro
I totally thought Michel Ancel should be behind this game. No disrespect to anyone involved, but BGE was a very entertaining game and it did manage to be epic in its own way.
Quiggy @ Oct 28th 2009 9:57PM
For the record, while I agree that the screens released today are really awful, Wii screens usually look awful. Compare this picture of Metroid Prime 3 with this video:
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/732/732817/metroid-prime-3-corruption-20060914022547997_640w.jpg
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/hazardous-world-metroid-prime/23749
Hopefully Epic Mickey looks better in motion.
Jeremy White @ Oct 28th 2009 6:53PM
Should have stayed that way.
Phix @ Oct 28th 2009 6:54PM
At least this explains why the screenshots are so far away from the style of the concept art. We now know that the concept art is what the game WOULD have looked like on the PC, PS3, and 360...
...I guess.
Traceur_Ryuk [All Digital until December] (PSN: Ryuk_shinigami) @ Oct 28th 2009 7:23PM
Exactly. The second I saw the concept art I knew it was impossible. But this style isn't that bad (not as good, but not bad).
samfish [is sad there is no Gene in Tats v Cap =( ] @ Oct 29th 2009 2:14AM
No, it doesn't.
You have no idea how art industry-related jobs work, do you? The final product NEVER looks like the initial concept stuff. EVER. This is a 99% fact.
This would have looked pretty much identical if it ended up on PS360, I can guarantee you.
Look At This Suit @ Oct 28th 2009 6:55PM
Because of this, I'm worried that Disney is going to demand that KHIII be a Wii exclusive.
Basically, Nintendo would TOTALLY COCKBLOCK my purchase of a PS3.
solarshadows074 @ Oct 28th 2009 7:01PM
all we have to do is get rid of mr. hopper, that asshat.
Mr Khan @ Oct 28th 2009 8:57PM
It always made more sense for KH3 to go Wii exclusive, and Epic Mickey will be a great litmus test towards that, though 358/2 is also a good example (to prove that the franchise can thrive on Nintendo platforms)
Though if they want to sell the most in Japan, it makes the most sense to just make it a DS game overall...
Mama Luigi @ Oct 28th 2009 6:58PM
Incoming shit storm...
BPMOmega [XBL, PSN, Steam] @ Oct 28th 2009 11:07PM
It already started before you.
chrisredfield31 @ Oct 28th 2009 6:59PM
pathetic. This would have been so much better on the next-gen consoles. At least port this over to the PS3 with significant enhancements when the Motion controller comes out.
Mama Luigi @ Oct 28th 2009 7:15PM
"Current-gen."
Dives @ Oct 28th 2009 7:00PM
Wasn't this supposed to be running the the Source Engine? From the Wikipedia page on Warren Spector,
"In 2005, it was announced that he had established a new studio Junction Point Studios,[4] where he is working on an unspecified game to be built with Valve's Source engine and released through Valve's Steam digital distribution system."
Now obviously it won't be seeing a steam release but is may entirely be possible that that they stuck with the source engine. I see the signs of it, that it has angular brush based geometry, but I see no displacement mapping, which is used in great amounts in Source, to give smooth terrain-like surfaces.
But I don't see how a small team like Junction Point could have possible ported the Source Engine to run on the Wii which completely lacks DirectX support. It took a whole team at EA just to port it to the PS3.
Chrono @ Oct 28th 2009 7:02PM
I wonder why exclusively on the wii but not the ps3, xbox, or even the pc.
RKN @ Oct 28th 2009 7:14PM
Hey...........what do you mean "even the PC"?
Pantsparty @ Oct 28th 2009 7:04PM
I guess Mickey wasn't epic enough to make it onto a real console...
Marius @ Oct 28th 2009 7:05PM
EPIC FAIL, once again
but it makes sense a kiddie game in a kiddie console
deaftly (PSN,LIVE,STEAM) @ Oct 28th 2009 7:10PM
Since you're obviously 12 why aren't you a Wii fan exactly?
SpyderTaco (PSN: Ar4chNova89) @ Oct 28th 2009 7:11PM
Obviously. I mean, who else says "epic fail" in all-caps?
Marius @ Oct 28th 2009 7:13PM
EPIC FAIL ON YOUR PART,
http://360.kombo.com/images/content/news/internet_serious_business.jpg
DomoBraden @ Oct 28th 2009 7:17PM
I hate you Marius. I don't know you, maybe you're a nice guy in real life, but I hate you. Please die.
Mama Luigi @ Oct 28th 2009 7:18PM
Please, just go away. You've caused enough shit already for one day:
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/28/disney-epic-mickey-screens-and-art-are-suitably-epic/1#comments
Bobby Kotick 2: Echoes @ Oct 28th 2009 7:18PM
Thank you, Marius, for proving to us just how immature you really are. I don't say this to everyone, but Band Hero would be a perfect title for you. We've even got the special drums Wii-exclusive for a limited time, so go grab your mother and pre-order Band Hero, you little immature fuck.
tmacairjordan87 @ Oct 28th 2009 7:19PM
How are you not banned yet? I mean...really, how?
Marius @ Oct 28th 2009 7:22PM
I can ask you the same thing
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/27/first-brutal-legend-dlc-dated-nov-3-initially-free-on-ps3/comments/22619215/
tmacairjordan87 @ Oct 28th 2009 7:25PM
Except I was able to provide solid reasons why I thought it was an awful game, not "durp durp it looked kiddie" or some other dumb shit you always say.
Marius @ Oct 28th 2009 7:28PM
if you want reasons why its a kiddie console then just look at the demographic, and Im sure a Mickey game is not going to be targeted to you and me
tmacairjordan87 @ Oct 28th 2009 7:32PM
Then explain to me why I have more wii games (6 right now) than I do ps3 or 360 (3 each) right now? Granted, I've traded in tons of ps3/360 games but still...you're not really gonna try to call me of all people a casual are you?
I'll have 14 wii games after christmas, if you can't find any games you're doing it wrong.
Come on man, at least when I was doing what you're doing I was faking it. I can clearly tell you're not.
Suichimo @ Oct 28th 2009 7:36PM
I'll post this here as well.
"Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence."
-C.S. Lewis
Traceur_Ryuk [All Digital until December] (PSN: Ryuk_shinigami) @ Oct 28th 2009 7:40PM
"Im sure a Mickey game is not going to be targeted to you and me "
Quite the contrary, I'm sure a majority of kids have never even seen a Mickey cartoon, it's "old". They don't care about Mickey Mouse when they have their Twilight and Jonas Brothers.
The true fact of the matter is they are targeting a more mature "hardcore-casual" audience with this. If you think you are too old for this, then you obviously aren't mature enough. Like when Flower came out, people were like "lolgay" however it's one of the best titles out there imo.