For being a Nintendo property, the Star Fox series hasn't performed, well -- it hasn't performed like a Nintendo property. Gaming legend Shigeru Miyamoto recently divulged to MTV Multiplayer that the series has been on the decline since its inception, with steadily declining sales for each new iteration.
But, despite all of that, Miyamoto is still a "big fan" of the series. He says that every time a new entry releases, he's "hoping people will enjoy it as much as I do," but that -- in Japan, at least -- the series' popularity has not met with Nintendo's expectations over its lifespan. It's understandable, really; when a company puts out the best-selling "game" of the last decade, it might find it hard to justify putting out something that isn't guaranteed to create giant piles of cash.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 7:53PM (Unverified) said
when was the last time they even made a Star Fox game?
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:03PM (Unverified) said
9 volt boss game on wario ware smooth moves ?
that was pretty awesome ... but i would like a new one to work more like the new sim and punishment ... nunchuk for moves and wiimote for aiming
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that was pretty awesome ... but i would like a new one to work more like the new sim and punishment ... nunchuk for moves and wiimote for aiming
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:03PM Brodo said
No wonder star fox popularity is in decline!
Nintendo is so busy rolling in their money that they dont take the time to develop good games anymore
The wii is one of the biggest loads of garbage that I have ever purchased, except I bought 2 seasons of the British office, and that was probably a bigger waste of money
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Nintendo is so busy rolling in their money that they dont take the time to develop good games anymore
The wii is one of the biggest loads of garbage that I have ever purchased, except I bought 2 seasons of the British office, and that was probably a bigger waste of money
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:43PM Dummy00001 said
> Star Fox Command for the DS.
I have tried it on my R4 and found it to be really hard to understand. Game gives very little of explanation of what/how to do. A sickness traditional to franchises. I erased it after few attempts at starting playing... DS has too many games to waste one's time on such oddities where game developers do not even bother to tell what the hell the game is about.
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I have tried it on my R4 and found it to be really hard to understand. Game gives very little of explanation of what/how to do. A sickness traditional to franchises. I erased it after few attempts at starting playing... DS has too many games to waste one's time on such oddities where game developers do not even bother to tell what the hell the game is about.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:45PM Lucky The Fox said
Yeah, Assault is a lot better than people say. The regular flying stages were great and the storyline was pretty nice if you ignore the "Hey, everybody's alive! Yaaay!"-ending. ...and Panther. Sheesh, I hate that one-dimensional replacement.
Command on the other paw was absolutely horrid.
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Command on the other paw was absolutely horrid.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:25PM (Unverified) said
"The wii is one of the biggest loads of garbage that I have ever purchased, except I bought 2 seasons of the British office, and that was probably a bigger waste of money"
Wow Frodo, you were scheduling to make that comment sometime today weren't you?
Anyways Ricky Gerveus know you hate the British Office, that's why he had to dumb down the American one for you to like it.
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Wow Frodo, you were scheduling to make that comment sometime today weren't you?
Anyways Ricky Gerveus know you hate the British Office, that's why he had to dumb down the American one for you to like it.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:33PM Lucky The Fox said
Yup. Furthermore, Adventures was first supposed to be a completely original game that just got the Starfox theme tacked on for some reason.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:34PM Fullmetal Salchemist said
I'm sure it'll sell well if they made a Wii version. You can even have Peppy tell you to "FLAIL YOUR ARMS RANDOMLY TO BARREL ROLL!"
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 4:01PM eugaet said
"The wii is one of the biggest loads of garbage that I have ever purchased, except I bought 2 seasons of the British office, and that was probably a bigger waste of money"
I'm used to ignoring useless anti-Wii comments by now, but slagging the original Office? The combination of those two opinions makes me think you have little joy in your life...and would have no idea where to look for it if you tried.
I still steadfastly refuse to watch the US version of The Office.
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I'm used to ignoring useless anti-Wii comments by now, but slagging the original Office? The combination of those two opinions makes me think you have little joy in your life...and would have no idea where to look for it if you tried.
I still steadfastly refuse to watch the US version of The Office.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:27PM Manifest37 said
Give me Star Fox 128 Dammit!!!
(Star Fox 64 pt. 2)
I played the "Adventures" & "Command" and damn, it made me miss Slippy's repeated calls for help.
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(Star Fox 64 pt. 2)
I played the "Adventures" & "Command" and damn, it made me miss Slippy's repeated calls for help.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:31PM Manifest37 said
oops, "Assault" not Command.
I never played Command.
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I never played Command.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:59PM ZaxCG2 said
I thought they did an okay job on Assault and Command only because it had Starfox 64 elements. That's the thing though. JUST ELEMENTS. Why the crap can't they go back to strictly vehicle missions with no fluff: just raw, straightforward, arcade-like levels with the occasional free-floating battle in-between. Those are the BEST.
I hold Starfox 64 as my number 1 game hands down. I just don't get these people who enjoy Starfox for the STORY and the CHARACTERS.
FREAKING FURRIES. HRRRRRRRRR.
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I hold Starfox 64 as my number 1 game hands down. I just don't get these people who enjoy Starfox for the STORY and the CHARACTERS.
FREAKING FURRIES. HRRRRRRRRR.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:18PM Brysonial the Bison said
"gasp" Marius left a decent comment, a round of applause please!
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:01PM Nolan North said
It's not about greed, it's the simple concept of:
If it costs more money you're going to get for your efforts, why do it?
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If it costs more money you're going to get for your efforts, why do it?
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:22PM einhanderkiller said
Well, Nintendo is rolling around in money. I'm sure they can afford to make a couple games from not-as-popular-as-Mario-or-Link series to please their fans.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 1:48AM (Unverified) said
Treasure?
Though Sin and Punishment 2 will do instead I suppose
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Though Sin and Punishment 2 will do instead I suppose
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 7:57PM parasyteFMA said
Of course the popularity of Star Fox is on the decline. There hasn't been a Star Fox game in so long and after Star Fox 64 they were all pretty crappy. Just make a new Star Fox game and Nintendo might be surprised about how much Star Fox popularity grows...if it's a good game, that is.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:12PM DudemanJones said
Why yes there is good sir! The introduction of arbitrary motion controls will revitalize the title and bring it to it's former glory!
In all seriousness though... Nintendo needs to remember that just because you can fix it doesn't mean that it's broke. Star Fox 64 is still the crown jewel of the series, and every title after that has been something of a blunder because they tried to expand the gameplay out from there into areas where it just doesn't work. We liked Star Fox because of it's fast paced tunnel shmup action. When they did all range mode in 64, that was killer. But at some point, and I'm really confused as to when this happened, Nintendo came to the conclusion that the on foot mode in multiplayer was what was drawing people in, and dedicated themselves to shoving into the series however they could, and the series has suffered ever since.
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In all seriousness though... Nintendo needs to remember that just because you can fix it doesn't mean that it's broke. Star Fox 64 is still the crown jewel of the series, and every title after that has been something of a blunder because they tried to expand the gameplay out from there into areas where it just doesn't work. We liked Star Fox because of it's fast paced tunnel shmup action. When they did all range mode in 64, that was killer. But at some point, and I'm really confused as to when this happened, Nintendo came to the conclusion that the on foot mode in multiplayer was what was drawing people in, and dedicated themselves to shoving into the series however they could, and the series has suffered ever since.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 11:27PM Frostblade10 said
@Greyseal:
Exactly. The first thing I thought after reading:
"He says that every time a new entry releases, he's "hoping people will enjoy it as much as I do," but that -- in Japan, at least -- the series' popularity has not met with Nintendo's expectations over its lifespan."
...was: No shit! Maybe you should make the gameplay like it was when it was popular!!! I can't believe Miyamoto didn't realize that after Star Fox Adventures.
The only thing I liked in Adventures was the fur graphics, which were a nice step forward in game graphics.
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Exactly. The first thing I thought after reading:
"He says that every time a new entry releases, he's "hoping people will enjoy it as much as I do," but that -- in Japan, at least -- the series' popularity has not met with Nintendo's expectations over its lifespan."
...was: No shit! Maybe you should make the gameplay like it was when it was popular!!! I can't believe Miyamoto didn't realize that after Star Fox Adventures.
The only thing I liked in Adventures was the fur graphics, which were a nice step forward in game graphics.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 7:57PM (Unverified) said
Of course it's declining; you don't release any decent ones.
Only good ones were Starfox on the SNES and it's remake, Starfox64.
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Only good ones were Starfox on the SNES and it's remake, Starfox64.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:02PM (Unverified) said
StarFox Wii would have been a good MotionPlus launch title
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:04PM (Unverified) said
no way !
Starfox is made for the pointer ... not the waggle =P
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Starfox is made for the pointer ... not the waggle =P
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:13PM FernandoRocker said
Platy
I agree with you... Analog stick to move the Arwing, IR Pointer to aim, A to shoot, B to use boms, Z to do a barrel roll... and d-pad up to boost and d-pad down to break. You can also do a forward motion with both the Nunchuck and Remote at the same time to boost, and another backward motion to break.
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I agree with you... Analog stick to move the Arwing, IR Pointer to aim, A to shoot, B to use boms, Z to do a barrel roll... and d-pad up to boost and d-pad down to break. You can also do a forward motion with both the Nunchuck and Remote at the same time to boost, and another backward motion to break.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:35PM Manifest37 said
NO way! But the setup would be perfect for the tank.
I would have to argue that Star Fox belongs on a traditional controller!
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I would have to argue that Star Fox belongs on a traditional controller!
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:52PM manyquestions said
You have to have two barrel roll buttons for opposite directions and so you can do sharp turns. If you're already occupying B for bombs and the D-Pad for loops, you might be forced to use some kind of motion control. But then having to shake the wiimote for right barrel rolls would mess up your aiming. Maybe the best would to use B and Z for barrel rolls, and shake nunchuck for bombs. I do prefer the idea of using B, but this way you wouldn't have to shake the wiimote and it still generally makes sense.
. . . Or maybe it could just be a classic controller game.
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. . . Or maybe it could just be a classic controller game.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 10:08PM (Unverified) said
i vote pointer to aim, A to shoot, Z/B to barrel roll, d pad down to radio and motion to do the yellow c actions (u turn, looping, boost and brake) ...
and talking about yellow c ....shake for bombs ?
What happened to the now ignored C button ? xD
I vote him for wise bombs
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and talking about yellow c ....shake for bombs ?
What happened to the now ignored C button ? xD
I vote him for wise bombs
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 11:27PM FernandoRocker said
Also... all the quotes from your partners could come from the Wii Remote speaker... it would sound just like if you are in the real Arwing!
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Posted: Oct 28th 2009 11:41PM FernandoRocker said
manyquestions
I can't believe that I forgot the C button on the Nunchuck... so, the final configuration would be:
Analog stick to move the Arwing, IR Pointer to aim, A to shoot, C to use bombs, Z and B to do a barrel roll...
D-Pad up to boost and D-Pad down to break (you can also do a forward motion with both the Nunchuck and Remote at the same time to boost, and another backward motion to break).
And all the radio talk between Fox and his parters could come from the Wii Remote speaker.
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I can't believe that I forgot the C button on the Nunchuck... so, the final configuration would be:
Analog stick to move the Arwing, IR Pointer to aim, A to shoot, C to use bombs, Z and B to do a barrel roll...
D-Pad up to boost and D-Pad down to break (you can also do a forward motion with both the Nunchuck and Remote at the same time to boost, and another backward motion to break).
And all the radio talk between Fox and his parters could come from the Wii Remote speaker.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:02PM MC Double Def DP said
Check out Starfox in Iraq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5FKmD1wcWY
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5FKmD1wcWY
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:05PM Maulok said
A funny thing happens. When you stop making new games for a franchise, it becomes less popular.
Seriously, how is there no motion conrolled Star Fox game for Wii? After Zelda's sword, it was the first place my mind went regarding motion controlled gaming. I want waggle barrel rolls!
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Seriously, how is there no motion conrolled Star Fox game for Wii? After Zelda's sword, it was the first place my mind went regarding motion controlled gaming. I want waggle barrel rolls!
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 9:22PM (Unverified) said
Honestly, they just kept getting worse and worse. The original game had some alright rail-shooting. But after that, it was rail-tanks, and rail-submarines... It wasn't just boring. It was a step backwards.
Why not give us some more free flight? Learn from some classic flight-combat games, like Tie Fighter, and Descent. You have a 3D engine. Use it.
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Why not give us some more free flight? Learn from some classic flight-combat games, like Tie Fighter, and Descent. You have a 3D engine. Use it.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:11PM (Unverified) said
I found Starfox Adventures to be quite enjoyable & quite underrated. The fear test part of the game was the most challenging part I think.
My cousin & I once spent an hour playing Starfox 64 @ Blockbuster when we were supposed to be picking up pizza for the entire family.
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My cousin & I once spent an hour playing Starfox 64 @ Blockbuster when we were supposed to be picking up pizza for the entire family.
Posted: Oct 28th 2009 8:13PM Nook said
I played the SNES game constantly - it rawked. 10fps, pffftt, pure heaven back then. Good old SuperFX chip.
64, it rocks still, but wait...we added a 'landmaster' and a sub? I still play this on VC. The land based missions always felt out of place to me.
Adventures. This is a Zelda clone. Great game, still looks great and plays great (bar that fear tests). But this is not SF, this is a Zelda clone.
Assault I just played some of recently, what a piss poor attempt at the series. Poor collisions, weird bounce off the walls physics.....the final battle was the best thing about that game. Even that is not worth playing through the game again.
The DS effort is one of the all time best entries. Command is what it's all about.
Flying around in a space ship, shooting shit to pieces.
So it is no isuprise interest in the series is dwindling, but if you look back at what has been released, there is no identity. It's like SF came out, was great, everyone was happy - then starting with 64....they ignored what people wanted and tried to have fox do too many things.
I've been a fan, but I'm done with Fox. Unless you can make a better Command, that game plays awesome, the story though...that alone could keep me away from Fox. It's not cute. It's not funny. It's stupid and annoying.
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64, it rocks still, but wait...we added a 'landmaster' and a sub? I still play this on VC. The land based missions always felt out of place to me.
Adventures. This is a Zelda clone. Great game, still looks great and plays great (bar that fear tests). But this is not SF, this is a Zelda clone.
Assault I just played some of recently, what a piss poor attempt at the series. Poor collisions, weird bounce off the walls physics.....the final battle was the best thing about that game. Even that is not worth playing through the game again.
The DS effort is one of the all time best entries. Command is what it's all about.
Flying around in a space ship, shooting shit to pieces.
So it is no isuprise interest in the series is dwindling, but if you look back at what has been released, there is no identity. It's like SF came out, was great, everyone was happy - then starting with 64....they ignored what people wanted and tried to have fox do too many things.
I've been a fan, but I'm done with Fox. Unless you can make a better Command, that game plays awesome, the story though...that alone could keep me away from Fox. It's not cute. It's not funny. It's stupid and annoying.
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