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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:37PM NickAVV said

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What would it be rerated to? Haven't we learned from the L4D2 fiasco that the Aussie rating board doesn't give R 18+ or X 18+ ratings to games?

Also, wtf, they can't review their own decisions?
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Posted: Oct 30th 2009 4:57PM GCountach said

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I'll translate it from Bureaucrat to Straight Talk using bablefish...

"The board could not review its own decisions"

means

"The check is already in the mail."
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:40PM Nabudis said

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I hope they realise that changing the rating wont make a difference. In fact it will probably make under 15s want it more since it will become "forbidden fruit".
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:46PM Iroquois said

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Yeah that's somewhat true. But if they don't lower the rating, more parents will assume it's ok for young children anyway than if the rating was higher. So really it kindah goes both ways.

But if I were to base my opinions of this game solely on CoD4, true or untrue, I would say they have it pegged at MA 15+.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:40PM (Unverified) said

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[banned]
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:42PM (Unverified) said

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Just the same as L4D2, I will be supporting the economy of another region by importing the game.

And if the game is to be re-rated, because of this one SKIPPABLE SCENE, it will be given the RC (Refused Classification), which will make the sale of this version illegal in Australia.

If anything, they'll release a patch to censor the SKIPPABLE SCENE.

And I am writing it in caps because that's exactly what it is, but these fuc**** extremists don't see that.
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Posted: Oct 30th 2009 4:22AM alinos said

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to be reclassified an group outside the OFLC has to do it as they cannot review there own decisions unless the game was to be resumitted

so in short theres not enough time to ban the initial sales of the product, at most theyll ban future shipments but thatll be it

in australia it should be banned because

"Your Paying the Premium Price , for a Multiplayer Experience that will LAG and have american Hosts Kicking you as soon as they can"
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:43PM (Unverified) said

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Oops.. I forgot to mention.....
I will be importing MW2 if it is censored. Just wanted to clarify that, as nothing has been done yet.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:44PM finnith said

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I find the sequence to be pretty questionable, but I'm holding my opinion till I play the game itself.

It's kind of weird though, it's not as if my wanton murder rampages in the GTA series couldn't be evaluated as being on the same level as an act of terrorism, but I still feel that this is maybe pushing the envelope a bit too far. Maybe it's because the game is literally forcing you to do it? But it's still not too different from GTA or anything else. It's pretty obvious that this lobby group is just the first in line, though.

Also, 500th comment and I've been a member for longer than two years, how sad.
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Posted: Oct 30th 2009 11:00AM (Unverified) said

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If you find it offensive....DON'T. BUY. IT

End of story
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:44PM ch3burashka said

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Seriously, what's up with Australia? Does it happen to have an incredible frequency of school shootings that I haven't heard about? I know Europe is much more sensitive to violence, but THEY still get stuff alright (except Germany). What's all the fuss about, Aussies?
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:55PM (Unverified) said

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The fuss has a name, and that name is Rupert Murdoch.

Nobody with half a brain gives a shit. Australia does not give a shit.
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Posted: Oct 30th 2009 11:13AM Uphillbothways said

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This issue has nothing to do with Murdoch. Does it?
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Posted: Oct 30th 2009 10:23PM (Unverified) said

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hey mate yeah im in Australia dude and trust me its 1 person who controlls the classification board her name is Jane Roberts and she refuses to giva an 18+ nrating she also get like 200 death threats a week or something like that she is the only reason Aussies as a group hate the bitch
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:44PM (Unverified) said

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I hope this game does not come out in Australia. Its ridiculous how they have an issue with everything made in America.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:54PM Premature ejaculation man said

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=/
Is that your opinion really? How did that get formed?
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:09PM Sly C said

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that's so backwards. i seriously got a headache after reading that.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:24PM Dafrety said

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Same way babby is formed.
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Posted: Oct 30th 2009 10:23PM (Unverified) said

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look mate im from australia and trust me we love that shit its some stupid bitch called jane robets who is head of the classifacation board who blocks everything that doesnt smell like flowers and she gets like 200 death threats a week or something
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:44PM nadomars said

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How did they not see it the *first time they rated it?* Obviously they must've, and decided it was okay, so STFU. I'm not trying to defend IW's decision to include this scene, but its their own fault if they want to be indian-givers after rating it already.
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Posted: Oct 30th 2009 6:55PM (Unverified) said

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That's the most rediculous part. If they were people capable of playing games in the first place they would have known about this on day one. But instead ratings boards often just have the developers come to them and tell them everything they think might be sketchy, along with some assorted assets.

They probably didn't even see the loading screen of the game.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:46PM Kaizan said

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I've been watching this for a few days and haven't really formed a decision yet. I can see both sides. The side defending it as just a scene that is skip-able and as part of the story has its point. And the side saying it's inappropriate and controversial just for controversy's sake also has one. However, I feel that both are correct, yet the game should not be censored. And it definitely shouldn't be re-rated and receive and Australian death sentence by being unrated. I think Australia needs to lighten up on the hard handed banning of media and let it's citizens make their own decisions. In the end, it's not hurting anyone, and it has a valid point. Terrorists exist, violence exists, and hiding from the problems of the real world doesn't make them disappear. While I do think the USA (I'm West Virginian) is backwards in its views on violence, such as violence being more acceptable than sex, I don't believe that banning violent media of any kind has any real effect. People have been violent since the beginning of the human race, and killed and hurt others before books were even thought of.

Either we grow out of violence as a whole, by accepting it's unnatural state, seeing what it really does, and learning why it's wrong, or we destroy ourselves. I don't see how running and hiding from it will ever help us.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:48PM Sly C said

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well written.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:23PM JXCGunrunna said

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And my view is to let the parents decide if this is something their kids should be seeing. I for one will not alow my kids to play games like this until they have a firm understanding and respect for weapons in real life. Idk, maybe its just my midwest values but I would rather be the one to decide what and when my children should be exposed to this stuff. Every kid matures at a different rate.
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Posted: Oct 30th 2009 11:03AM (Unverified) said

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You sire are thinking too much about this. This is not a problem. This is a form of entertainment. You can either participate in this, or not. No one is forcing anyone to buy a video game, and watch said scene.

So stop thinking so hard, this topic doesn't deserve a philosophical debate over violence. What it deserves is a debate over freedom, and self-governing.

If you don't want to see it, don't buy it. The end.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:48PM kmcroc said

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Is it me or has the world become a bit over sensitive ,since 9/11.come on now thier's been fighting going on in some countries like forever . no matter how pc you become or rigthous .stuff will take place no matter what .so get over it people .
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:47PM Sly C said

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the thing is, you've already proven yourself to be a major reactionary.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:48PM (Unverified) said

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@ xxLUANCHYxx - They don't have an issue with everything made in America. The issue is that the rating system in Australia is pathetic.

@ mars - They did see it. Because they allowed it, all these nanny's are creating a s*** storm, wanting the Classification Board to re-review the entire game for 1 scene.

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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:39PM (Unverified) said

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Oh i see. Well thanks for the nice comment unlike the no-lives who dwell this site every second.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:48PM Iroquois said

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I believe the term you were searching for is "fine art". Not "high art".
"High art" is art that gets made when you do a lot of drugs lol
Which oddly enough is usually some of the best art....
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:50PM (Unverified) said

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They have a point, though. It's a voluntary experience and the decision whether to allow a child to play the game is entirely up to the parents. If there's one thing I can't stand it's parents who get their collective panties in a bunch due to a video game's content. Maybe they should look at the shit they're buying and come to their own decision regarding the game's appropriateness.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:52PM Premature ejaculation man said

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I just can't stand that one person is responsible for our constant classification debacles. Just the one minster who says R18+ will allow kids to buy the games (when really, it only funnels 18+ games into MA15+ ratings).

It seems the only way we will get R18+ games is by waiting for the man to retire/expire.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:57PM (Unverified) said

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Give me a case of Vegemite and some Carlton Draught and you're on.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:52PM (Unverified) said

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Also, stop trying to start shit. It's getting old.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:54PM (Unverified) said

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Ironically only the single-player will be anywhere near playable here anyway. Ask anyone outside the United States what they think of peer-to-peer "matchmaking" networks, and you'll hear the same old story about being linked to some shithead in another country and terrible latency. Dedicated servers are the only way worth playing out here, without them multiplayer is pretty much redundant.

To be honest, I'm so disillusioned with Infinity Ward right now I almost wish it was banned here. Fuck the game and fuck Activision too.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:54PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:59PM (Unverified) said

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Man, Aquaman must have fucked up big time.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:10PM Sly C said

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good god, you're making these ASCII things annoying as hell. you post them at least 3 times a week. not new ones either. just the same ones every time. seriously, lay off em for a lil while, or find fresh new ones. kthanks.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:12PM (Unverified) said

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I've only posted two in the last two weeks, and they were both today.

*is confused*

Not sure how two in two weeks is 'overdoing it', but whatever.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:21PM Sly C said

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oh really? every time i see them, its by you. it used to be a once a month kind of thing... anyways, they're still getting old. we need new ones. but yeah, sorry for kinda attacking you.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:23PM dartmerc said

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Two in one day is overdoing it.
It would help if you balanced them out with some useful posts, but it seems your ascii art is the closest to useful you get.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:23PM (Unverified) said

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It's all right. I went back and checked, last time I used it was October 15th.

I try not to use the things anymore, though. But this was just stupid on the lobbyist's part.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:27PM (Unverified) said

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Have you seen my post count? I'm on here a lot. Two compared to my daily post count is pretty low.

No, I'm not using them again for a while. All right?

Now, as for the issue, I'm tired of people trying to ban everything they see that offends them. I'm offended by their stupidity-do you see me out marching, trying to ban stupidity? No. (If only we could...)
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:42PM Peter Moore said

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One in ever is too much.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:50PM Dr Perry Ulysses Cox said

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Hey, Peter Moore, check out my new name.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 10:51PM (Unverified) said

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Oh, God...

*prepares Inbox for wave of flaming comments*

Why did you antagonize him?
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 11:12PM (Unverified) said

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Just imagine if everyone posted ASCII art once a week.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 11:43PM Peter Moore said

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Hey WREturns, don't really care.
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Posted: Oct 30th 2009 3:58AM mahouneko said

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@Sly:
I think you're confusing Bradwart with Tom Kalinske (sp?). Tom likes to post the Picard facepalm and did so pretty often. I haven't seen him around (on Joystiq) lately so I'm not sure what's up with him.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2009 9:54PM (Unverified) said

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Speaking of Australia, what exactly does Vegemite taste like?
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