We hope your recent forays into piracy merely involve you donning a hook and eyepatch for a debaucherous costume party, or else you likely received a message from Microsoft like the headline of this post. The company recently dispatched a wave of bans to owners of modded Xbox 360s who've been playing pirated copies of games. A Microsoft spokesperson confirmed to IGN that "we have taken action against a small percentage of consoles that have been modified to play pirated game discs."
The spokesperson went on to explain that this batch of console bans wasn't conducted on any particular time frame, and that the company was merely following up on its standing policy against piracy. In other words, Microsoft isn't trying to ruin your Halloween weekend -- it just, you know, worked out that way.
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Posted: Oct 31st 2009 11:43PM (Unverified) said
I've made this point earlier, but no doubt it's gotten drowned out. People are stupid. They'll get their Xbox locked, and then bumble on down to Wal-Mart and lay 300 bucks on the counter for a new system. A new system which they will then spend 60 dollars on with an Xbox Live subscription.
The solution is smart: If you want to pirate, fine. We'll revoke your rights. And if you want them back, you'll have to actually pony up for once. They make money off this, that's why they do it.
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The solution is smart: If you want to pirate, fine. We'll revoke your rights. And if you want them back, you'll have to actually pony up for once. They make money off this, that's why they do it.
Posted: Oct 31st 2009 11:05PM herby247 said
Hope the modders on here aint been stupid enough to have their joystiq username the same as their gamertag, and then posting on here their love of modded 360's!
I think more than anything the people on here that do purchase legit games are pissed because they are spending hard earned cash on games, that people are d/loading and playing for free in mins!
Yeh i suppose some modders will try live to see if they can get away with it, but the VAST majority will play their pirated games offline.
The amount of recent single player games and addons on disc that is also on dlc, ie gta4 bogt, means they are still getting these games FIRST and before anyone else, THAT is what pisses me off, as videos of plot/storylines appear on youtube etc, as major spoilers.
And you will hear modders rubbish a game after 20 mins of play, that you may be contemplating dropping £40/$60 on.
I know piracy will NEVER be stopped 100%, but surely the next gen wave of consoles will need to look at making it even more difficult to mod in the first place!
I think more than anything the people on here that do purchase legit games are pissed because they are spending hard earned cash on games, that people are d/loading and playing for free in mins!
Yeh i suppose some modders will try live to see if they can get away with it, but the VAST majority will play their pirated games offline.
The amount of recent single player games and addons on disc that is also on dlc, ie gta4 bogt, means they are still getting these games FIRST and before anyone else, THAT is what pisses me off, as videos of plot/storylines appear on youtube etc, as major spoilers.
And you will hear modders rubbish a game after 20 mins of play, that you may be contemplating dropping £40/$60 on.
I know piracy will NEVER be stopped 100%, but surely the next gen wave of consoles will need to look at making it even more difficult to mod in the first place!
Posted: Oct 31st 2009 11:36PM (Unverified) said
I think it's hilarious how worked up people get over World of Goo's "pay whatever you want deal", calling piracy on people paying only a cent. Yet as soon as Microsoft mass-locks known mod consoles that hold hundreds of pirated games, everyone gets all pissy and wonders why they can't go on Live any more.
Posted: Oct 31st 2009 11:52PM afrozeke said
Here come the 'I was banned and I never modded my Xbox" folks.
Posted: Nov 1st 2009 12:46AM ColorblindMonk said
Whoever pirated and got the boot got what they deserved. You stole a game and were stupid enough to play it online. You stole a game. No excuses.
Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:25AM T for Troll said
I'm sure piracy will never stop, modding has quite the community. I don't get it, they could probably make it in Game Programming so why console Modding?
Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:56AM Lekko said
I did pirate in high school. It actually taught me a LOT about computers, security, and how to generally do geeky things. Pirating is actually incredibly educational if you actually read into it and learn the principles at work. Same with a lot of criminal things, actually. I know a lot of drug-types that are fantastic at chemistry, and I always sucked at it. There are upsides to piracy, but the application of such things and use of said knowledge is dependent on where you go with such information.
I do buy all my games now, and in retrospect, the games I did play that I did pirate were somehow 'cheaper' for it. I never felt nearly as accomplished for beating a pirated game as one I legitimately bought and beat.
I do buy all my games now, and in retrospect, the games I did play that I did pirate were somehow 'cheaper' for it. I never felt nearly as accomplished for beating a pirated game as one I legitimately bought and beat.
Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:04AM Skytwin said
I don't entirely see the point in this ban other than perhaps to disuade soon to be pirates.
Its not going to discourage the already pirating people out there. They'll merely buy a second hand console and use it for online games. MS won't see any of that money, unless of course they'll buy a new console which imo, would be unlikely.
They will still pirate games and use them offline. MS will also lose cash on XBL and XBLA which I know many pirates use.
The thing is, MS always use November as their ban month. Its been the same for years. There are exceptions but these happen rarely and normally through silly scene/p2p releases ( french Halo ODST springs to mind).
Basically, the way lots of pirates see it is if MS just hand out bans once per year. They're quite happy to shell out £60 on a second hand console, play pirated games online for 12 months, recieve a bad and then repeat the process.
I guess MS just have to be seen to be doing something.
Its not going to discourage the already pirating people out there. They'll merely buy a second hand console and use it for online games. MS won't see any of that money, unless of course they'll buy a new console which imo, would be unlikely.
They will still pirate games and use them offline. MS will also lose cash on XBL and XBLA which I know many pirates use.
The thing is, MS always use November as their ban month. Its been the same for years. There are exceptions but these happen rarely and normally through silly scene/p2p releases ( french Halo ODST springs to mind).
Basically, the way lots of pirates see it is if MS just hand out bans once per year. They're quite happy to shell out £60 on a second hand console, play pirated games online for 12 months, recieve a bad and then repeat the process.
I guess MS just have to be seen to be doing something.
Posted: Nov 1st 2009 6:17AM moogleboi said
Seems a lot of people here are pirate-bashing. Well I say bravo to those who can download the games. I don't blame people with the crazy £45 price-tag for a videogame over here, I would too if I could, unfortunately I bought a PS3.
Piracy is one step towards being more practical with your money. Don't talk to me about morals, the companies won't really suffer from your choice alone, and that £45 can feed you for weeks if you know what to buy.
Piracy is one step towards being more practical with your money. Don't talk to me about morals, the companies won't really suffer from your choice alone, and that £45 can feed you for weeks if you know what to buy.
Posted: Nov 1st 2009 10:32AM (Unverified) said
*facepalm*
Consoles have been killed by pirates who all claimed 'oh, I'm not really hurting them. They're a big company-they can handle it!' or people who say 'I bought the hardware, so they did get some money from me!'. The hardware argument is invalid, as companies get most of their profit margins from software.
But saying 'i'm not really hurting anyone' is BS. Say the pirates cost a company, oh, 100 thousand dollars for a title. That means less money goes to the dev, who has to cut back, which means someone gets fired. This 'i don't care' mentality is what's killing the PC gaming industry, which hurts devs who used to make a lot of money from that industry, so they go under, and it's hurting everyone because of it.
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Consoles have been killed by pirates who all claimed 'oh, I'm not really hurting them. They're a big company-they can handle it!' or people who say 'I bought the hardware, so they did get some money from me!'. The hardware argument is invalid, as companies get most of their profit margins from software.
But saying 'i'm not really hurting anyone' is BS. Say the pirates cost a company, oh, 100 thousand dollars for a title. That means less money goes to the dev, who has to cut back, which means someone gets fired. This 'i don't care' mentality is what's killing the PC gaming industry, which hurts devs who used to make a lot of money from that industry, so they go under, and it's hurting everyone because of it.
Posted: Nov 2nd 2009 9:25AM Ghen said
Darth, even though we're on opposite sides of the fence with this one lets agree on one thing. Piracy does not cost the full dollar value of a game. At most it costs the amount of a gamefly subscription or $15ish a month for 2 games. Take out gamefly's cut, total guess $5, take out the percent of people who just wouldn't have an xbox.. maybe 10% or $1.50 in this example... Leaves $8.50/month that a pirate is costing developers/publishers at most. If you figure three games a month that a normal renter will play that divides out to less than $3 per game.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 6:39AM Snappyguy said
This is why I don't do anything nice for my Xbox; I'll get banned.
Posted: Nov 1st 2009 9:13AM kompulsive said
I just wanted to take a second to shout out a big "Thank You" to all the lemmings who were banned in the most recent wave. You guys help keep the minority safe. Every time a release drops early and the chatter about playing early starts, I try to encourage it as much as possible. The more of you fools playing games pre-release, the safer those of us with at least half a brain are. No matter how many times I see scores of these idiots banned, they are back right away and still haven't learned to wait until the release date of a game has arrived and verify your copy with a retail version!
...getting more detailed than that would be a waste of time.....but lemmings, please keep coming back.
...getting more detailed than that would be a waste of time.....but lemmings, please keep coming back.
Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:01PM (Unverified) said
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp
I still agree with what you said, I just like too show people that.
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I still agree with what you said, I just like too show people that.
Posted: Nov 2nd 2009 8:58AM (Unverified) said
whether you play a pirated game early or you play a pirated game after release you still run the same risk of being banned. it really makes zero difference.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 3:15PM drkschmoog said
*facepalm*
Not necessarily everyone who pirates a game would have bought it in the first place. With this companies build statistics that assume 1 download = 1 lost sale @ full RRP. And with this I think these companies use piracy as an excuse.
These labels and publishers take most of the cut from a sale if I'm right. I know that's the situation with the greedy music labels.
Not necessarily everyone who pirates a game would have bought it in the first place. With this companies build statistics that assume 1 download = 1 lost sale @ full RRP. And with this I think these companies use piracy as an excuse.
These labels and publishers take most of the cut from a sale if I'm right. I know that's the situation with the greedy music labels.
Posted: Nov 1st 2009 3:17PM drkschmoog said
Woops, this was meant to be in reply to another post.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 5:12PM CaramelZappa said
While what you say is true, that doesn't give pirates an excuse to download games. If you use the excuse "I wouldn't have bought it anyways" that doesn't mean it's okay for you to pirate it, it just makes you cheap.
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Posted: Nov 2nd 2009 12:10AM whnunlife said
Posted: Nov 2nd 2009 8:47AM (Unverified) said
I SURVIVED banwave '09
Posted: Nov 2nd 2009 7:21PM (Unverified) said
Posted: Nov 4th 2009 3:11AM kompulsive said
Vince, that is completely incorrect.
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