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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:34PM Huey2k2 said

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Sounds like a more streamlined version of the sphere grid.

The problem I always had with the sphere grid is it was difficult to pick and choose abilities you specifically wanted.... plus it always felt like you were being forced down specific paths. I hope this system isn't like that.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:44PM xThePunisherx said

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Agreed. The Sphere Grid was definitely one of the best progression systems from a FF game, so taking that and making it easier to use sounds awesome.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:44PM Flo said

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I remember Final Fantasy X. I never finished it :( It was fun though.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:22PM Magresda said

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The Sphere Grid was by far my favorite FF leveling system. While it set every character down a specific path, you were never forced to pick a specific skill. And after you finished a characters "part" of the grid you were free to choose which one you would do next. It wasn't perfect by a long shot, but definitely my favorite. A re-tuning of the Sphere Grid would be amazing.

I just got even more excited for FFXIII... If that's even possible.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:35PM Punkrawk Bbob said

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I wouldn't say streamlined sphere grid, I'd say it sounds more involved.

It sounds like instead of just skills and attributes, now you can get like "Dodge +5%" or "Swords +5%" as well. That would be way sweet if they go that route. I'd imagine that being incredibly hard to balance (or incredibly easy to make inefficient chars) - But we'll see come December.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 4:31PM (Unverified) said

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I didn't think it was that difficult. I had the entire thing unlocked for every character by level 45
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 6:04PM (Unverified) said

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FFX is one of the worst goddamn RPGs I've ever played, but yes, the Sphere grid was good. It was the only good part of that wretched game, but still.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 7:16PM Punkrawk Bbob said

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... You do know there were no levels in FFX, right?

And FFX wasn't that bad. Story was great, and cinematic presentation was sweet. FFX-2 perfected the CTB battle system though. But if you're a fan of western RPGs, I can't expect you to see the greatness of FFX.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 7:37PM Dr Perry Ulysses Cox said

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I think the Junction system from FFXIII was the best by far. I could make my people exactly how I wanted them.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 8:29PM (Unverified) said

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"Story was great, and cinematic presentation was sweet."

Nah. It wasn't. You can dress up a dog turd all you want but it's still a turd.

"I think the Junction system from FFXIII was the best by far."

Learn roman numerals please, they're not hard.
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Posted: Nov 2nd 2009 9:00AM Ghen said

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I loved the Sphere Grid as well. Mainly because I like needless complexities :)

On a simpler note, I really loved materia and integrating weapons with spells. Damn that was a nice system. Completely different than the rank and file character systems you see albeit pretty simplistic by today's standards.
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Posted: Nov 2nd 2009 1:19PM den69 said

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I always made Yuna go down Lulu's path on the sphere grid, that way I could have multiple magic casters.
Was awesome game and I am desperate for it to be brought to the PS2.
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Posted: Nov 2nd 2009 2:53PM Dr Perry Ulysses Cox said

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Ah shit. Well I clearly meant FFVIII as Filthy Assistant so tactfully pointed out.
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Posted: Nov 2nd 2009 3:59PM Ghen said

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The Junction system had a fatal flaw though. Once you get your available magics to max storage numbers using draw you never wanted to use magic unless the situation was desperately dire. Also, when fighting monsters you had to sit there for 20 minutes drawing over and over again on every character to get those maxed magics.

As for the rest of the game, loved it.. but the junction/draw system needed fixing.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:37PM Dark Archon PSN Archonik XBL Dar said

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I really like the standard Diablo-like level progression.
You level up, your stats increase, you choose what to boost and an ability. Love it.
I found the FF XII progression system a pain on my first playthrough. The whole grid
system... Oh the endless choices :(

I like playing a game without having to use a guide just to enjoy it and not get my ass kicked every five minutes because I did it wrong :)
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:37PM (Unverified) said

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I actually think the Diablo (2) system can also kick your ass every five minutes if you do it wrong. Like putting 20 points to the crow summon skill or something. Or I could be wrong and that would be the toughest crow ever :)

But the point in FFX system was that you could easily focus on the characters own class's sphere and get the necessary skills and hp/mp boosts.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 5:03PM (Unverified) said

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@Neptune
It's actually really hard to fuck up your character in Diablo 2. Whether you focus on just on skill tree or spread it around a little, the game is no more difficult. Now I want to play it.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:45PM wardob said

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Hopefully this doesn't make leveling up too much of a chore.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 6:26PM BigD145 said

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Hopefully this doesn't make leveling up too much of a bore. I'm looking at you, FFVIII.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 8:39PM (Unverified) said

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Why exactly were you leveling up during FFVIII in the first place? You're not supposed to do that on purpose.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:46PM (Unverified) said

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I really don't see very much of a difference between this and the sphere grid, but then again I'm not expecting innovation out of a jrpg anymore so I'm not going to complain.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:48PM Wiizer said

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But see, by trolling in the FFXIII post...

You kinda just did. =/
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:49PM (Unverified) said

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It's not trolling when you're stating a fact.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:04PM The Artist Formerly known as Jes said

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I find it difficult to read tmac posts because they're always whited out. :(
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:05PM (Unverified) said

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Might need better eyes then cause I can see whited out posts as good as regular ones.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:10PM (Unverified) said

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You should be able to as well from your trolling stint a few months ago. That's why I was laughing at how you were trying to play the good guy yesterday, you're not fooling anyone.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:14PM (Unverified) said

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Exactly what i'm talking about, that right there. You're also on here all the time, which is also why I was laughing at you calling bradwart out for that the other day. No matter how much you try to deflect that attention no one on here has forgotten how annoying you can be.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:20PM (Unverified) said

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tmac if you want people to like then don't be such a bitch about everything
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:21PM (Unverified) said

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Your comments are blue because you try to pretend to be the good guy, because you cannot be who you are all the time. You're too worried about blue posts and white posts.

I at least have the balls to be who I am 100% of the time regardless of who I offend or upset.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:27PM SecretAgentHam said

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This is the best thread ever. please, keep going. this is better than those spanish soap operas on tv. you two have a real knack for this kinda thing...
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:32PM (Unverified) said

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I don't know, Ham. Those soap operas are pretty damn good.

And I'm gonna have to side with Tmac here-he does say what he thinks.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:33PM Babel said

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Gentlemen, please! This is a thread about Final Fantasy, not troubled young guys with something to prove!
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:36PM (Unverified) said

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Aren't the protagonists of Final Fantasy games 'troubled young people with something to prove'? So it makes sense, in a twisted kind of logic.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:38PM (Unverified) said

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I'll have to get fernando to translate that for me later. I'd love to keep this pointless argument going, and on a normal boring day I would, but this is football day and I need to watch my broncos go 7-0.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:52PM Funkmaster General said

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Tmac, you started it with the end of your comment. There is no way that you didn't know what you were doing.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 5:21PM RANDOM G Joystiq Troll Slayer said

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These threads are much more entertaining than the actual posts.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 5:24PM RANDOM G Joystiq Troll Slayer said

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^^^ No offense Griffin.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 5:43PM (Unverified) said

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I wanna be in the soap opera!

Tmac... I am your father...
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 5:47PM (Unverified) said

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Tmac Pero, ¿cómo podremos averiguar quién mató al cantinero?!

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Tmac, But how can we find out who killed the bartender?!

(Google translator FTW)
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 7:55PM sonicspike41 said

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Pfft, you want funny, try googling "Pterodactyl porn". A friend showed me the video recently and I was cracking up. Good stuff.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:48PM Wildside said

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sounds similar to the Diablo 2 skill tree.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:52PM (Unverified) said

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Good news for me since I loved how the system works in X.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:52PM MondiBlue said

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I enjoyed the Sphere Grid. I'll be happy if it is like that.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 1:57PM Uncontrol said

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I liked the FFIX system the most. Simple but flexible.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:01PM Jeff Kibuule said

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Did someone say Sphere Grid? I LOVE THE SPHERE GRID. Best leveling up system there is. I pretty much hated the license board in FFXII.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:07PM (Unverified) said

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The one game I'm actually considering importing. I want it that badly. Thank goodness the PS3 is region free, and I don't have to do anything. I still remember buying a GameShark so I could play Grandia on my Saturn.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:09PM The Pirate said

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Yeah, but Grandia was well worth it. I still say its the best RPG ever made, lol
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 2:22PM (Unverified) said

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It was spectacular. I was disappointed when Sega decided not to bring it to the US (though it makes sense in retrospect).
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 8:30PM (Unverified) said

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Is it going to have english subtitles in the Japanese release?
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Posted: Nov 1st 2009 8:30PM (Unverified) said

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Honestly, I don't know. I would think so, however.
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