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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 5:33PM Extinction said

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"Sounds like everyone wins."

Everyone who owns a PC/PS3/360 that is.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 5:39PM (Unverified) said

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I like this and I don't...

On one hand, great, Nintendo is going to put HD into their next console. We're at least guaranteed the next Smash Bros, Zelda, and Mario in high def. But, without an HD requirement, that'll allow all the shovelware to just move from the Wii to the next iteration and that's not something I'm looking forward to.

I understand Nintendo is in the business to make money, but if they continue on this path I won't be purchasing the next Nintendo console.

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:00PM The Aquacharger said

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Why? Why does Shovelware ruin a system? Do you know how many shovelware and terrible games the PS2 had? Yet, I'm sure you loved the PS2. Maybe if you just ignored the shovelware now, like you did then, then you'd have no problem. It's not like everytime you walk into a store, or look online, you have to buy a Petz game. Shovelware is for who buys it, and the people who buy it, I hope they enjoy it. Just because you don't like a game, or a large mass, doesn't mean the game (or it's type) should not be allowed anymore. I mean, Pop Cap, one of the largest Shovel Ware companies. They do make some fun games. Plants VS Zombies for example. Yet, that's on the PC (and Xbox I think, I don't know). Should you not get a PC or 360 because it has shovelware? Sure, it's not near the Wii's ammount, but you can ignore it.

Maybe it's time gamers realize there's other people who want to pick up the controller an play. If someone likes Petz, then let them play it 'till their hearts content. If someone like Brawl, then let them play it. If someone like Halo, then let them play it. You can say your thoughts of the game, but if they're having fun, let them.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:44PM Giroro said

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"Why? Why does Shovelware ruin a system? "

Do you see all the Wii hate? The mass exodus of 'core' gamers from the platform? Mobs of diehard Nintendo fanboys dropping the company like a bad habit?

That is because of the shovel ware. Sure, some shovel ware is expedited on every platform, but Nintendo's complete lack of standards has flooded the market with so much crap that games with actual effort in development are drowned and do relatively poorly in sales. Even good 3rd developers have stopped trying and are following their audience to other platforms.

When consumers can't find good games, they stop buying games altogether, this is why the Wii has a much lower attach rate than PS3/360. When consumers stop buying good games, developers stop making good games. When developers stop making good games the consumers put the Wii in their closet and find something better to do.

Developers don't even really have to try to compete against core first party core games because Nintendo has really been lacking in that department ever since Miyamoto got old.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 7:35PM Ozzman79 said

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Amen. I wish everyone was as open-minded as you. Shovelware doesn't mean any game YOU don't personally like.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:14PM lobotomies4free said

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over half of wii games sold don't support 480P. what next format should they get everybody to half-ass

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 5:58PM Fullmetal Salchemist said

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KaBob, your statement is so profoundly stupid I don't even want to type out a real response to it. Instead, here's me trying to type out song lyrics with my elbows.

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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:07PM koehler83 said

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All HD systems are 'hybrid' HD/SD.

Stop acting like they're doing anything.

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:08PM The Aquacharger said

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All they mean is that a game could max out at 480i if the devs wanted to, or 1080p.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 7:04PM koehler83 said

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Nothing's stopping them from doing that now on PS3 or PC. (I think 360 specifically has rules against it.) Devs just don't want to do that, because it's atrociously ugly. You're better off creating an HD product and letting the system downscale where necessary.

Get an HDTV and stop giving Nintendo excuses! YES YOU!
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:15PM (Unverified) said

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Forgot about Wii HD, just give me a new Pikmin with all new multiplayer levels :D

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:16PM cbarrentos said

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dear Nintendo,

welcome to 2006.

hesitantly yours,
charlie

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:34PM Wildside said

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what i want the most out of the next console from Nintendo is to be able to re-render Gamecube and Wii games into HD. If an emulator can do that on a PC, why not a console system??

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:46PM Giroro said

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Gamecube support? REALLY? While while you're at it why not insist they add a slot for N64 games as well.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:41PM Braids said

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Oh my goodness, Nintendo are considering to make a xbox. Not the 360, but the original xbox where it was capable of doing 1080i even though developers were not required to use it. This is ridiculous.

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:46PM Giroro said

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Well the Xbox WAS more powerful than the PS2.
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Posted: Nov 6th 2009 8:53AM (Unverified) said

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Well the Gamecube was more powerful then the Xbox

I'm sure the hardware was capable of it... Just software didn't support it.

I dunno if everyone knows this.. but a processors clock speed and the amount of memory aren't as important as the cache size, FSB, and the speed of the memory.. and things like that... I mean yeah.. definately clock speed and amount of RAM are indeed important... but do some research...
Now.. I think the Gamecubes "FSB with the GPU" was slower then the Xbox's... and Xbox had a faster GPU then the Gamecube did, but the Xbox's FSB was slower then the GPU.. unlike Nintendo's console...

what I'm saying is a bunch of nonsense that I think means that the Gamecube was just built better then Xbox.. it's faster memory and more properly put together hardware just made it more capable... I'm pretty sure it was mostly crippled by that damn "super homega small DVD thing".... size does matter ya know.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 7:25PM npa189 said

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The best thing Microsoft did for console gaming was mandate that all games/upscale well in 720p, why does Nintendo care if most people don't have HDTVs? its not like it wont work on a SD set, and all it does is future proof games. It's almost 2010, producing content in SD formats should be a capital (and by that i mean punishable by death) crime by now.

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 7:27PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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I don't see why anyone's surprised. Even before the Wii was released, Satoru Iwata stated that the next system would be HD capable. The Wii wasn't because at the time it was released, the HDTV market was very small.

It's a different picture now, sure. Which is thanks to dropping prices on HDTVs.

Sure, how Takeda said this is kinda weird sounding... especially since PS3 and 360 can display everything in 480i/p (though, not always readable).

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 9:23PM suade94 said

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I don't have an HD TV in my living room. But I think Nintendo has to make something HD capable for its next console. A lot has changed in three short years. My next TV will have to be HD if I buy new. THere's no choice. That being the case, Nintendos next console better be backward compatable with Wii. I haven't had this many games for a system since my original NES. I'm not paying for another system that can't play all the games I have. Hopefully Nintendo learned from Sony's mistake. I wonder how the next generation of consoles will handle the downloadable stuff from this generation? I'm sure each will handle it differently just like backward compatability was this gen.

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 9:37PM beez1717 said

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everyone is wrong because it won't be called wii anything. nintendo will think of a new name. Heck i'd like nintendo to make improvements in the AUDIO area so that when they want an explosion to be heard behind you it will, and when you want to make it sound like the waves are crashing below your feet or you can hear the crunch of dirt below yourself, well that would be the next step in my mind.

Posted: Nov 5th 2009 10:31PM rahmenxnoodles69 said

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Nintendo has never really focused that much on graphics. There's always been a console on the market with better graphics than the Nintendo system it's competing against.

Graphics really aren't a huge factor when you have the casual "gamer" in mind. The 360 and PS3 fanboys have been waging a brutal flamewar over graphics since before they were both even available, but in the end the Wii is the console making the huge sales.

That's not to say that the Wii is "superior"; I mean there hasn't been an actual good, exclusive Wii game since what.. Punch Out? In the meantime we've gotten half a dozen stupid Wii-Fit ripoffs, crappy mini-game collections, effortless license cash-ins, cheer leading simulators(..?), and shameless GameCube re-releases by Nintendo themselves..

Basically, nobody should count on Nintendo to ever push the envelope on visuals.

We have Sony and Microsoft for that, and your little brother and grandma have the Wii for colorful motion-controlled minigames that will keep their attention until nap time.
(Because come on, you know the casual "gamer" isn't playing MadWorld and Okami. Good Wii games like that are certainly out there, but totally under-appreciated.)

Posted: Nov 6th 2009 2:45AM (Unverified) said

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You do know that Nintendo had better graphics from the SNES to the Gamecube, right? The Wii is their first system with inferior graphics.
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Posted: Nov 6th 2009 8:58AM (Unverified) said

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@darkrandomkid

It's funny because you're right.

That was the Nintendo 64's purpose (to display high-end graphics I mean).. it destroyed anything PS1 could ever consider doing graphically... it rendered games in higher resolutions.. was capable of rendering full 3D environments. PS1 just can't do that... though developers did use a bunch of tricks to make it seem like it could...
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 10:46PM funkdat69 said

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What a weird topic. "HD" is just a higher resolution. You can have the same "graphics" at SD or HD, it won't take any more effort, other than maybe memory management.

Of course, if you define "HD" as "ZOMG! gr8t grafix!", then more work would go into it, but I think that's a misuse of terms..

Posted: Nov 6th 2009 8:59AM (Unverified) said

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THANK YOU
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Posted: Nov 6th 2009 4:05AM (Unverified) said

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Is HDTV adoption up to 50% yet? I heard it's getting close. (though of course that's just "per household" so each house probably has more SDTVs than HDTVs).

I'm still on a little SDTV :-(

Anyway, UHDTV is lanuching soon, so they might as well skip all those soon-to-be-obsolete HDTVs and go straight for that.

Posted: Nov 6th 2009 9:00AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah but then uosafihdtv will be out 2 years later.. so whats the point?

(btw.. ultra-omega-super-amazing-fantastic-insanely-high-definition-television)
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