It probably comes as no surprise to you -- our well-informed and educated audience -- but the Ratchet & Clank series isn't just designed for the kids. Edge spoke with Insomniac writer TJ Fixman, who expressed that the primary audience for the weapon-indulgent platformer is the "male 18-34" demographic. He notes that teens who played the first game back in 2002 are now in their twenties and stayed fans of the series.
Fixman notes that males under 18 could be the "interchangeable primary-secondary market," but that the PS3 user base skews older. He compares the Ratchet style to the Shrek series, explaining that Insomniac tries to find the right blend of humor that'll appeal to a large audience. Now the question remains: When will we see Ratchet & Clank again?
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 3:24AM (Unverified) said
I find that quite hard to believe, then shouldn't the rating be M. Fail
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 3:32AM Helghast102 said
Are you fucking stupid or something? wait.. dont answer that, the Joystiq community know the answer.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 3:34AM carmaction said
Please tell me this is one of those 'hard to detect sarcasm on the internet' issues.
You DO KNOW what the ESRB is, right?
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You DO KNOW what the ESRB is, right?
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 3:44AM Jacksy said
dammit sprinkles, why don't you just leave?
BTW guess which one is Sprinkles just now.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/62/blendingin.jpg
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BTW guess which one is Sprinkles just now.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/62/blendingin.jpg
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 4:18AM AntiVillian said
I lol'd, people like you who make me feel slightly smarter.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 4:49AM DeepFriedSushi said
this game has the most confusing demographic.
to me i think its the audience who played the original ones on the ps2. Then simply kept playing the same game.
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to me i think its the audience who played the original ones on the ps2. Then simply kept playing the same game.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 3:29AM Kratos said
Wow I thought the first comments were at their worst when some moron typed "FIRST!!!".. guess I was wrong...
If you've ever played Rachet and Clank a lot of the humour in it is adult humour a lot of children wouldn't understand anyway. The game can be picked up and played by anybody when it comes to platforming elements but when it comes to the often racy dialogue it's really aimed at I'd say those in their early 20's.
It's hardly Banjo Kazooie no matter how you look at it.
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If you've ever played Rachet and Clank a lot of the humour in it is adult humour a lot of children wouldn't understand anyway. The game can be picked up and played by anybody when it comes to platforming elements but when it comes to the often racy dialogue it's really aimed at I'd say those in their early 20's.
It's hardly Banjo Kazooie no matter how you look at it.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 3:54AM Jacksy said
its not "first", anymore, they use " fail" now.
Anyway on topic, I agree on what you posted because I heard plenty of cuss words etc and I turned out to be fine, but seriously all this is to keep two different demographics happy, I like that. Irrelevant, but I put fat princess on and I had a friend over and she said, " wow I cant believe all that gore from such cute looking game", there's no point to that story lol but fuck all the censorship!
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Anyway on topic, I agree on what you posted because I heard plenty of cuss words etc and I turned out to be fine, but seriously all this is to keep two different demographics happy, I like that. Irrelevant, but I put fat princess on and I had a friend over and she said, " wow I cant believe all that gore from such cute looking game", there's no point to that story lol but fuck all the censorship!
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 10:35AM (Unverified) said
I think another large part of it is PS3 and PSP's are owned by more people that are older because it's a larger investment. A kid will settle with Xbox360 or Wii's/DS before that because the costs are lower from the parents perspective...
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 3:34AM Enigma777 said
I have to say that ACiT is terrific. I always thought that TOD was a 7.5-8.0/10 game and ACiT easily breaks into the 9's. They fixed every little problem I had with the previous titles and they did it in style!
Also, I'm 20 and I don't feel ashamed of playing it... The opposite, actually.
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Also, I'm 20 and I don't feel ashamed of playing it... The opposite, actually.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 10:32AM CtrlBurn said
I'm just getting started on ACiT, but there are definitely some things I'm seeing that I like a lot. They're hitting some of those things that worked so well in Going Commando that they've gotten away from since.
Also, I'm not ashamed to be playing R&C games at 26. They're fun, and that's all there is to it.
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Also, I'm not ashamed to be playing R&C games at 26. They're fun, and that's all there is to it.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 1:17PM MrAlex said
ToD completely killed the spirit of R&C games because aside from the Arena and Lombax planets you didn't have to revisit anywhere to progress.
Also it left a big plot hole.
I don't have ACiT as it comes out tomorrow here, but the demo left me with a good feeling, the aiming is the way it was before and the planet was less linear than the ones in ToD.
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Also it left a big plot hole.
I don't have ACiT as it comes out tomorrow here, but the demo left me with a good feeling, the aiming is the way it was before and the planet was less linear than the ones in ToD.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 2:24PM (Unverified) said
Dude, don't be embarassed. I am 36 and I love this game as much as my son. This is truly a AAA title.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 3:44AM The Blank Mage Returns said
I'm glad they kept their core fans in mind over the years, too many series just pump up sequels that get progressively less mature and more gimmicky in a desperate bid for a wider audience. That never works, because your old fans hate you, and the new kids have never heard of you. You just wind up with a stupid-easy on the rails platformer with new characters every 3rd step.
...You heard me, Sonic.
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...You heard me, Sonic.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 3:53AM Helghast102 said
I love me some Ratchet & Clank, and i have NEVER felt that it was a kiddy series, its just too awesome.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 4:13AM SoCoolCurt said
yea i definately agree with that sentiment. this is one of my favorite series and i'm going on 22 pretty soon. it's a rare game because i often play it with my little cousin and he is 13. he can play it fine but he doesn't understand alot of the humor (i can tell cause he doesn't laugh at the same stuff i do). and the blurb about the first game shows they really know their demographic well cause i fit it perfectly lol.
i can't wait til thanksgiving break so i can pick up the new one, haven't had a chance to yet with college and work.
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i can't wait til thanksgiving break so i can pick up the new one, haven't had a chance to yet with college and work.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 5:17AM Benedict said
See, you hear people saying "ha ha, you're playing a kids' game!" when you mention that you're playing Ratchet & Clank: [Whatever]. Yet, I'm guessing that nine out of ten times it WILL be an adult playing the game and it'll be a twelve year old that is jeering at you. Ironic, really. And Insomniac Games knows that. Now I just with the game play would lean more towards the game's actual demographic...
Annoyingly, Australia (and New Zealand) STILL doesn't have ACiT. It's truly horrible.
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Annoyingly, Australia (and New Zealand) STILL doesn't have ACiT. It's truly horrible.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 5:51AM Helghast102 said
Exactly, when was the last time a (mentally) mature adult laughed and shit on what you play/watch? it's always the little "IM SO MATOOR LOLS" kids and the flat-out idiots.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 6:39AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
I'm 26(soon to be 27) and I play the HELL out of R&C Games.....hell I Need 10k point in that "My Blaster Runs Hot" game and I will have the platinum....
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 8:09AM Level 5 said
Same, I'm 28 and a huge R&C fan since the first one, have em all, and have played through all of them but Size Matters and Secret Agent Clank multiple times. Well.. just finished Crack in Time so I haven't finished it twice but I did start my 2nd play through.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 10:38AM eat it said
damn a platinum already?!
I'm losing interest with this one, I just saved that other lombax from being locked up and now I'm back as clank and it's boring. I think I'm going to stop and sell it. Feels like I stop caring about the story and now I'm just running through the motions.
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I'm losing interest with this one, I just saved that other lombax from being locked up and now I'm back as clank and it's boring. I think I'm going to stop and sell it. Feels like I stop caring about the story and now I'm just running through the motions.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 10:47AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
yea I like the game....its a lot of fun to me....enough so to go to EVERY moon to do all the space missions and everything...
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 7:40AM spyker3292 said
I love R&C games, and I play them, and play them, and play them, to complete everything. I've been playing since R&C1 :D
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 8:01AM Wiseman2 said
I always thought it was some well-laid out plan of Insomniac's to keep thier audience. They started out with a kid-friendly platformer back on PS1 (ignoring that one-off shooter) in Spyro and then moved upto a general audience game in R&C on PS2. Then PS3 rolls around and they've got an adult-oriented shooter in Resistance. Or maybe I'm just over analysing it... all I know is I've played every Insomniac game released (except that shooter and ACiT as yet) and they are all outstanding.
And yes I do still bring out the PS1 now and then to play Spyro.
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And yes I do still bring out the PS1 now and then to play Spyro.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 8:32AM Mr Khan said
This could lend credence to a theory i've been cultivating, that the industry has been firmly focused on one specific generation of people, and has been tracking them as they age, slowly losing their ability to appeal to anyone younger, and rarely trying to appeal to anyone older.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 9:00AM (Unverified) said
That's fine with me, I like playing ungodly amounts of great games made for me, and not my mother or my friend's 3 year old kid.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 12:03PM The Blank Mage Returns said
Until the Wii came along, and we all know how that went.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 8:38AM ViewtifulJason said
Before they retire the series indefinelty, please put the PS2 games on a Blu-Ray collection. I figured I'd give Ratchet & Clank 1 a try on my MGS4 PS3 and it lags all the frakking time to the point where it's nearly unplayable. I'd pay the full $60 for at least the first three games.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 9:53AM (Unverified) said
It doesn't need to be rated "M" to be appealing for older audiences. The ratchet and clank series is one of the most humorous and fun franchises for the Playstation regardless of age.
I'm and adult and I'm having a great time playing it. I thought that this game was fantastic!, best ratchet and clank game to date that's for sure.
Oh and I doubt that this will be the end of the ratchet and clank series. Those who've played the game will feel the same.
@Chris D, if you play with another person, you can easily gather the 10k points. I used my little brother as second player and we got the necessary points easily(He got 7k points.. while I got the rest.. -__-)
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I'm and adult and I'm having a great time playing it. I thought that this game was fantastic!, best ratchet and clank game to date that's for sure.
Oh and I doubt that this will be the end of the ratchet and clank series. Those who've played the game will feel the same.
@Chris D, if you play with another person, you can easily gather the 10k points. I used my little brother as second player and we got the necessary points easily(He got 7k points.. while I got the rest.. -__-)
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 10:01AM (Unverified) said
I like the new Ratchet and Clank and I'm a kid so screw you insomniac with your focus testing!
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 10:23AM Vegeta has a ps3 said
I might be in the minority when I say this (I'm already expecting the downvotes), but I don't feel the Ratchet and Clank is as humourus as people say. I've always been a bit indifferent to the series so I figured that maybe this iteration would be the one that would woo me like it has with everyone else.
Sadly that's not the case. Often the humor in the game made me groan or roll my eyes at how corny it was, and many of the side characters (especially Qwark and the Robot sidekick from the Clank portions of the game pissed me off to no end) I found very irritating.
I do agree that more games should find a humor that appeals to a majority of gamers. I just don't feel that this game is a good example of that.
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Sadly that's not the case. Often the humor in the game made me groan or roll my eyes at how corny it was, and many of the side characters (especially Qwark and the Robot sidekick from the Clank portions of the game pissed me off to no end) I found very irritating.
I do agree that more games should find a humor that appeals to a majority of gamers. I just don't feel that this game is a good example of that.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 10:47AM onesidezero8581 said
Although I disagree with you that R&C had groan-worthy humor I can kind of sympathize. I thought Brutal Legend had some of the lamest humor I had ever heard and then started reading reviews to see if I was alone and come to find out... I most definitely was. I literally never lauged one time during that game while everyone else thought it was hilarious. I don't know, I guess we are just proof of "different strokes for different folks". But Qwark's line, "you win again technology..." had me cracking up. Some of it falls flat but I thought overall it was well written.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2009 11:29PM Vegeta has a ps3 said
A little late but:
It's not that I don't get satire, it's that I don't think it's very well written. Which is why I find the jokes so groan-inducing.
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It's not that I don't get satire, it's that I don't think it's very well written. Which is why I find the jokes so groan-inducing.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 2:29PM Ashitaka said
I bought the PS2 JUST for R&C (I've always loved platformers). Damn, I can't believe the fun I had with the demo of the first game. The Metropolis and the Blackwater areas were/are absolutely awesome!
I remember one time when I had to leave my PS2 on because it was lunch time and I didn't want the lose the progress I'd made in the demo (you could even get the Devastator if you farmed enough bolts) and when I came back, I discovered that the demo had a time limit and that it would quit if you stopped playing it for a while. I was really bummed at the time but hey, I just had gotten an excuse for playing the demo again!
Good times :')
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I remember one time when I had to leave my PS2 on because it was lunch time and I didn't want the lose the progress I'd made in the demo (you could even get the Devastator if you farmed enough bolts) and when I came back, I discovered that the demo had a time limit and that it would quit if you stopped playing it for a while. I was really bummed at the time but hey, I just had gotten an excuse for playing the demo again!
Good times :')
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 11:12AM Ninjalawyer said
This isn't too surprising. R&C occupy, in my mind the same space as the movie Up! Just because a game or movie uses a cartoony aesthetic doesn't mean it's automatically a stupid babby game.
I hope the next R&C games recasts Ratchet as an old and embittered widower who learns to love again through his friendship with a loveable yet incompetent fat kid named Clank.
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I hope the next R&C games recasts Ratchet as an old and embittered widower who learns to love again through his friendship with a loveable yet incompetent fat kid named Clank.
Posted: Nov 5th 2009 11:15AM (Unverified) said
I love Ratchet and Clank and it is definitely not a kids game.
That is all.
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That is all.
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