Man, we have got to get into watching Mixed Martial Arts. Not only do the sport's leagues have like, the coolest names ever, but the televised bouts also occasionally contain sneak peeks into upcoming video games. For instance, on last night's Strikeforce (so, so cool) match, the first-ever gameplay footage from EA Sports MMA was revealed. You can find it posted just after the jump.
How does it look? We have no idea. There's plenty of punching and kicking, sure, and one might say these two techniques are used intermittently -- or rather, that they are mixed. Therefore, our initial, amateur analysis of the video concludes that it reeks of authenticity.
Yeah I'm kinda impressed with this. If they integrate physics damage like fight night this would definitely have some cool factor over the next UFC game... Unless they really ramp up their tech too.
Looks good so far but I still prefer Bruce Buffer over Jimmy Lennon Jr and I can't stand Mauro Ranallo's commentating, god help us if Frank Shamrock is on there too.
He is, as far as I know. I prefer the UFC brand more, but the graphics this game is churning out is already making me happy I didn't buy the UFC game. I'm still hoping that they have a sort of career mode (a la Skate) though, because I'm only interested in a handful of fighters outside the UFC :(
I think Bas Rutten is also commentating in the game. I know he is going to be in there in some capacity. I like Mauro but I think the best combination would be Michael Schiavello and Bas Rutten. Those two guys are my personal favorite announcers even though they don't work together as far as I know.
strikeforce blows frank shamrock is a tool... cant score a round. also fedor is the greatest in the sport today but not all time someone should let cbs know that...
Yeah he lost because of a cut and were in not a tournament structure it would have actually been a NC. But, because it was a tournament they had to declare a winner.
Frank is not a tool. He just look like a little girl wearing those braces and lisping. Get some of those clear braces before you do anymore commentating.
Brett did great last night. He def put up a good fight against Fedor.
Maybe a rematch next year? Regardless, one good thing coming out of this is that both EA Sports and Strikeforce have two new and marketable fighters. Before this fight I would say that BOTH were rather unknown outside of the hardcore fans.
Brett had a great showing and came in great shape. I just didnt like his post fight reaction. Should've been classy and not try to discredit Fedor of all fighters. Strikeforce is on its way. The more free MMA the better. =)
I wouldn't say that he did great. It was a super exciting fight thats for sure ... but thats Fedor for you. I've watched it like 10x already and Brett really didn't land much on the feet except that one jab that cut Fedor's nose (not sure if it was the edge of the glove or the punch itself b/c Fedor does have a lot of scar tissue) and when he escaped that kimura attempt and ended up standing in Fedor's guard and landed those three big shots ... then damn near got an arm bar for the trouble. Fedor really rocked Rogers about 3-4x and had two close submissions. I think Rogers made a great showing for himself and with some more training he could be the top dog in the HW division. He needs to improve his stamina thats for sure either that or he was so amped up that once the rush wore off he was sapped of energy.
It's not like he ever rocked Fedor or had him in any real trouble in the fight. It was just typical Fedor ... throw big punches, scramble off the ground, shake off the heavier opponent in the body clinch, go for submission attempts, eat strikes to deliver them, throw everything as hard as possible and the most important thing ... just keep on winning against guys 40 lbs heavier, 6 inches taller and with a huge reach advantage. The guy is just out of this world good and I don't really see anyone beating him in the UFC or Strikeforce. Maybe if age catches up with Fedor it's possible but I didn't see any vulnerabilities last night. The only way to beat him is to cut him and hope the fight gets stopped.
Rogers behavior afterwards was deplorable. Reminded me of Lestard after he beat Mir in their rematch at UFC 100. The fact that he was all trying to flex on Fedor and bow up to him after he just got his ass beat was hilarious. Does he think he is intimidating him or something? LOL ... dude he just knocked you TFO and your going to flex on him like that means something. What an idiot and a big baby. Wah Wah Wah I got my ass kicked Wah Wah Wah I didn't let my hands go Wah Wah Wah I'm not undefeated. He gained respect for his fighting but lost respect for his outburst. That was Bush league.
How have you watched the fight ten times and not seen the Rogers jab land right in the middle of Fedor's face?
as for Rogers post fight interview, its just another example as to why its foolish to shove a mic in front of a combat sport athlete minutes after a demoralizing loss. Rogers was handling his business just fine until he abandoned the jab and threw a looping hook that left his chin open. He was hit so hard do fast that he probably felt that it was somewhat fluke-ish.
His post fight was more self critical and optimistic about how to handle it a second time around than anything. He didnt trash Fedor, he just didnt throw his pride on the floor and give in. He is a young fighter, its in his best interest to have that mindset.
Dude what are you talking about I said I wasn't sure if the cut was from the glove (you know how it happens 90% of the time in MMA from a glove or an elbow) or if there was existing scar tissue that opened up. Jeez man.
Overeem is a juicer who refuses to come fight in front of a real athletic commission. Physically, he is less of a threat than Rogers. Overeem has below average traditional striking, he excels in the clinch. Coupled with a less stable chin than Rogers, I think its silly to think Overeem is a better fight than Rogers, who damaged and controlled the best fighter in the world for a good part of their fight.
Overeem is a monster now. He already challenged Fedor after his win in Dream 12. He said he would fight where ever they wanted, Strikeforce or Dream.
Overeem, after all, is the Strikeforce heavyweight champion. Overeem would maul Rogers if they fought. As of now, he is the only man in Strikeforce that has a chance at doing something to Fedor. Rogers only had Fedor in a bad place ONCE the entire fight and I chalk that up to Fedor not being use to being on his back against a cage. Regardless Fedor only got off 2 punches of ground and pound before Fedor caught his arm and tried to submit him.
There are a lot of guys juicing in MMA. As far as I know Overeem has never failed a drug test or been caught with performance enhancing drugs ... Lesnar on the other hand was caught with HGH in the past. But, I think in terms of the guys currently on the Strikeforce roster that Overeem is the best guy to fight Fedor. In fact, I'd say that Fedor, Noguiera and Overeem are the 3 best HW's in MMA at the moment. I think Lesnar, Carwin, Dos Santos, Velasquez, Rogers and Duffee are in that next group of young up and comers. I don't think Mir, Kongo, Buentello, Herring, Gonzaga or any of those other UFC veterans belong in the discussion. I'd put Lashley and Nedkov up there before those guys.
Damaged and controlled the best fighter in the world for a good part of the fight? Your out of your mind. Watch the fight again, Fedor threw him around like a ragdoll in the first round. He allowed the dude to punch him when they were on the ground so he could get a hold of an arm, if that was a ring the fight would have ended right there. He was the aggressor the whole fight. He almost laid him out in the first round with that left hook. All Rogers hit him with is that one jab that recut/broke an already broken and cut nose. He did ok for himself sure, but watch the fight again and you will see that he really didn't do much to Fedor. All that blood seems to have fooled a lot of people. Fedor bleeds if you look at him too hard.
wow, lots of misinformation in here, we'll start with handlas
- yes Overeem is the Strikeforce HW champ. He beat Paul Buntello to be the first SH HW champ. Epic win, fear him.
-some more about Overeem. He has ducked Strikeforce since winning the belt and faught literally joke opponents Thompson, Sylvester and Goodridge have a combined record of 42-34. He isnt fighting HW champ caliber opponents.
-the last time Overeem faught serious competiton was a 5 fight stretch in Pride where he went 1-4 against Shogun, Minotauro, Arona, Belfort and Werdum. In his 4 losses he got subbed twice and KO'd twice. His win was a decidion over Belfort.
-Overeem then went to fight C to F level fighters and signed with Strikeforce. He won a vacant title and bounced to Dream and K-1. Dude is a paper champ who doesnt have the tools to beat a premier MMA fighter.
Lesnar hasnt ever been caught with HGH. In 2001 he was arrested for illegal pocession of steroids, but charges were dropped if I remember correctly. At elast Lesnar fights in the states where he is tested before fights, regularly. Overeem has made his career in nations where steroids where practically uniform.
Overeem however, might be the best guy to fight Fedor in Strikeforce after this Rogers loss. However thats an indictment on Strikeforce's HW division more than praise for Overeem.
After the initial exchange where Rogers landed a job that blew up Fedor's nose, they clinched on the cage. Now Rogers didnt turn it into alot of offense, but he did control that location effectively. Likewise, when Fedor was attempting to either pull guard or a sub, Rogers gets credit for both not getting subbed and inflicting damage.
At no point was Rogers being pushed around, because of his size. A guy like Werdum wont have that advantage over Fedor, nor will Overeem. If you honestly believe that Fedor threw Rogers around, alt + f4 please.
Rogers did far better than the world expected and certainly earned rematch consideration. He was never overmatched, he just got beat by a superior punch. He can gameplan against the sweeping Fedor hook with straight punches, and he is certainly young enough to learn so.
Like I said there is at least a connection to Lesnar and steroids where as there is none of that when it comes to Overeem. If your going to sling mud at least sling it in the other obvious directions.
Call me crazy but Lesnar hasn't really fought anyone worth a damn in my opinion. Most of the UFC HW division is just a product of the UFC noise machine ... other than say Noguiera. Mir beat him once and Mir has always been overrated I mean even before the accident he wasn't all that and afterwards damn near drank himself out of MMA. The only reason Mir beat Noguiera was because of a staph infection that had him hospitalized for a week just before the fight ... yet Lesnar pulls out of a title defense because of he kissing disease mono even though he has enough energy to do photo's at the Vikings game. Then you have Couture, a natural LHW who hadn't fought in what 18 months? Yeah that was not all that impressive of a win in my mind. Herring hasn't been good since the Pride days and even then was sort of a gatekeeper more than he was a dominant HW fighter. Even if Lesnar beats Carwin I'm not real sure what that means either as the only real win Carwin has was against Gonzaga in which he got rocked and landed a sweet desperation punch. Maybe if Lesnar beats Carwin, then Noguiera or Velasquez and a guy like Dos Santos or Gonzaga I'll consider him as the real deal. We really haven't seen Lesnar tested ... at all. The only time he was even put in a submission attempt he tapped out. Let's see his chin tested, his stamina, his jujitsu from his back and how he reacts to a cut. I think Noguiera and Velasquez are the two best HW's in the UFC not Carwin and Lestard.
You're not that far off. Lesnar is the benefit of being both an other worldly physical specimen and an established marketable star. The problem with the HW division is depth of credible talent, clearly. Boxing is undergoing the same trouble today. Lesnar certainly has an abbreviated work record, but he is certainly a legit top 5 HW on pure athletic ability alone. You want to see his BJJ tested, but how many guys can put him on his back? 3, maybe 4? You want to see his jaw tested, but if he exploits his legit wrestling base, there are maybe 5 chances to test that chin in a fight (see Jake Shields v Jason Miller).
Im far from a fan of Brock, I actually think he is horrible for the sport, but the criticisms of him shouldnt be hyperbolic for the sake of internet mockery. He has been tested for steroids more than nearly every UFC HW due to his prolonged employment at WWE and he possesses real, credible skills that in the history of MMA have always proven to be a track to success (in MMA history, wrestlers have out performed any other skill set, easily)
re: top 2 guys in UFC @ HW. its about selling PPVs as much as wins and loses. Cain has fewer career accomplishments than Lesnar and has massive questions regarding his ability to take a punch and his ability to finish a fight. He peppered Kongo with shots and caused minimal damage. Brock's hands contain a ton more thunder. Big Nogis easily the most talented HW in the division, which isnt a surprise since he is unquestionably an all time great.
just because lesnar passes steroids tests now doesn't mean he didn't take them in the past. Look at baesball, A-rod doesn't take them but he certainly has retained the muscle of when he did take them 9 years ago.
also I agree lesnar has to prove himself some more. It's funny how everybody is always saying fedor has to fight lesnar to prove he is the best. I say it's the exact opposite. Fedor has proven himself, his record shows it, sure there might have been a little bit of luck on his side on some of those matches, but, luck favors those who work hard. you don't get a 31-1 record purely off of luck.
just because lesnar passes steroids tests now doesn't mean he didn't take them in the past. Look at baesball, A-rod doesn't take them but he certainly has retained the muscle of when he did take them 9 years ago.
also I agree lesnar has to prove himself some more. It's funny how everybody is always saying fedor has to fight lesnar to prove he is the best. I say it's the exact opposite. Fedor has proven himself, his record shows it, sure there might have been a little bit of luck on his side on some of those matches, but, luck favors those who work hard. you don't get a 31-1 record purely off of luck.
I could just pinch your cheeks, you are both so adorable.
Can we just try to keep the baseless theories limited to one sport in this thread though? Its plain comedy to think that Arod using steroids 9 years ago is the exact reason he is in peak condition (and it ignores his loss in weight over the past 2 seasons... so ... yeah).
but you should take this with a grain of salt since I apparently dont know what the fuck Im talking about. I just wish I knew what I was wrong about though. In the face of a blanket statement with no data, Im left to assume that everything I say has been incorrect. This is going to be problematic. Oh Mondays....
