Datel suing Microsoft over Max Memory card lockout

Ok, I love that Datel tried to make their own memory card (and was about to get one when the news of them no longer working came out), and I believe that we need something bigger than 512mb and at the terrible cost of 30 bucks. Still, the datel memory cards allow for gamesaving, something Microsoft has a firm stand against.

"We doubt this is the 'remedy' for the lockout issue to which the company previously referred..."

Wanna bet?

I'm not too familiar w/ how their products are used for piracy since I don't really keep up on that sort of thing.. I just likes me games. I guess storage of pirated games?

either way, I figure I'd have to side w/ Datel on this one, since it's pretty clear they price gouge the hell out of 360 owners and it only seems to be getting worse.

Wait, they're suing MS for not letting other people use their crap on the 360, of which MS created and owns outright? Sure, it might be a bit assholish, but it's their platform, they should be able to do whatever they want on it (or pertaining to it).

If I'm somehow missing something, somebody please let me know.

Well how about paying a royalty fee, Microsotf won't just let them make aprofit of their product without paying royalties.

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I'm probably the only one who will be amused by this, but the tags say "Breaking Xbox."

This is why I got a ps3 instead

I laugh at these companies that think they can stand a chance against Microsoft. I mean they are one the most (if not the most) powerful companies in the world.

You're right. Did a quick search and didn't find anything. Hmm.

interesting... while I somewhat wish them luck in this as it has the potential to open up 3rd party X360 HDDs, I'm not going to hold my breath.

Yes, you are. It would be like building a car and selling it to a consumer while not allowing the consumer to use any other manufacturer's tires or breaks or oil or oil filter or windshield washer fluid etc.

Say Nissan released software that will not allow Goodyear tires to work on Nissans. And this could be after millions of consumers bought Goodyear tires for their cars. Now you have millions of consumers who cannot use their cars. This is not AS drastic as this, but if people bought these memory cards and can now no longer use them, they are forced to by an MS product and they also lose all of their saved game files.

I would have believed the crap Microsoft told about it being for the sake of it being against piracy if they locked them complete. Just locking everything above 512mb is just a Moneymaking scheme

I used to love datel, until they stopped making cheat devices for consoles.... now I could care less if they won the lawsuit or not. I always loved messing around in games on the good ol n64 or playstation... one of my favorites codes was in zelda and mystical ninja L button to levitate, ah good times good times.

I really hope datel wins this case. Hopefully if they do it will put the money hungry pigs AKA microsoft execs in their place

I find it interesting that apparently the only way MS could detect the Datel cards was by disabling "a memory card with greater capacity than their own." You can still use the Datel cards for all your nefarious needs if the capacity is small enough.
Thus the only thing this does is kill MS's competition. It doesn't prevent gamesaving. Bad for the consumer all around!

Go Datel! They still sell Datel's at at least one of my local Best Buy's. Buyers are in for a little surprise...

Also, gamerscore cheating aside, these are the best value for storage for your 360 and the fact that they sell 2GB for less than MS' pathetic 512MB is likely more of the reason for the lockout. Gamerscore cheaters can access their data direct from he hard drives anyway with the transfer cable and some software!

I'm all for Datel on this one!

I sincerely hope that -- through some divine intervention -- Datel will win with their current stand on this whole affair. And with it, yield a massive landslide victory for us consumers in regards to the freedom of choice on storage units.

In particular, I hope this key victory will allow consumers the freedom of choice, and the right to use other vendor's HDD and such similar devices that are suited to their preferences and usage demands.

In perspective, this adds an incrementally pivotal means, and indeed incentive for companies to meet consumer demands, by providing competitive products and services, but above all, value in sustaining a healthier competitive gaming market where everybody will/can gain from.

I'll start off by chanting the slogan,to have MS sit and twirl on my middle finger.

Funny that back when they were officially cut off everyone was against my point of view that it's unfair despite people using them for means of pirating. Now everyone's on Datel's boat. Make up your minds.

You go, Datel!

I stand behind this lawsuit.. I love my 360 but a monopoly is a monopoly. Datel's reasoning is sound

On one hand, it would be nice if they won and we all got cheaper storage solutions. Whoopie. On the other hand, I think Datel is being as douchey as microsoft, and they're being scumbags about it too. FIrst off, microsoft does not have a monopoly on memory cards, just on xbox 360 memory cards. There are 2 other huge giants in the game industry. They all have proprietary parts of their systems. Like someone already mentioned, someone tried this with apple not to long ago and lost. Each platform holder is allowed to keep things proprietary if they wish. Datel on the other hand never bothered to license their memory cards from microsoft, and then backwards engineered their products (which is no doubt not allowed in the EULA) and sold an unsupported product to their customers. They always knew microsoft could disable those cards whenever they wanted, but they didn't warn their customers. By not informing their customers of the risk of using their cards they are the ones who really screwed people over. Not cool. I don't like microsofts ridiculous memory prices, but that's why we have the wii and the ps3 that allow usb and SD memory cards. If you don't like the 360's prices, buy a PS3. Right now it's clearly better value for money and if MS starts losing the race maybe they'll get their act together and actually start offering gamers a better value. if not, their loss.

This is why Microsoft has not created a monopoly:

"They accomplished their recent update by making a system change that will not recognize or allow operation of a memory card with greater capacity than their own. We believe that with the power Microsoft enjoys in the market for Xbox accessories this conduct is unlawful."

Datel is still able to compete, but they cannot create a memory card that has a greater capacity than those offered by Microsoft.

It's kind of like people suing because their console was banned from Xbox Live. Sure, they may have waited for you to reup that subscription, but they didn't ban your Gamertag so you still have full access to XBL.

i was wondering how microsoft could due this, not because it is douchy, but because it is in fact illegal to create a monopoly.

Go Datel!!!

Even though I would love to have an SD memory card for the Xbox 360, Microsoft might be able to nail Datel if they reverse-engineered an Xbox 360 memory card.

@ Darth Bradwart, The Dark Lord of the Sith-ATDF Co-Founder

"Plus, I don't like Gamerscore cheaters."

YOU CAN CHEAT WITHOUT THIS!

Dismantle HDD/buy Xport (by Datel) - connect to PC & add any content you want.

Sure it could take a little longer (unless you have Xport) - but mods & gamerscore boosting is not being stopped by this.
That is what Microsoft want people to believe.

Apple renders the whole iphone inoperable for people that modified their phones to accept unauthorized software or service providers - Everyone says its the users fault for modding their iphone and they got what was coming to them.

Microsoft renders unauthorized memory cards inoperable on their system - OMG ITS A EVIL MONOPOLY~~!!!!!! DEM EVIL MICROS!!!!!! SUE SUE!!! HAKORS FTW!!!!

The whole microsoft is evil and out to steal your soul routine is getting a bit old.

I'm sure there's a way around the block. Could be something simple too...
Partition the large cards into 512mb sections so they appear smaller.

What about...
NOT UPDATING?

Wait.. I don't own a 360. Do you get banned from Live if your Dash isn't current?