Datel suing Microsoft over Max Memory card lockout

Ah so the MS update system isn't as useless as Nintendo's is..

they're used for save hacking, and worse achievements hacking. which destorys the integrity of the achievements system.

ms had always planned to award people depending on the gamerscore, hackers basically killed any possibility of that.

Microsoft's own official memory cards, LIKE I SAID IN MY COMMENT, are also just as easily used for save hacking and achievement hacking.

You're a god damned monster.

has little to do with competition. Take this for example...

Datel kits sell for $40 NOT including microSD card for 2GB of space

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Max-Memory-Card-2GB/dp/B002BWQMBG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1259029025&sr=1-2

20GB starter kit which includes 3months of live and a headset is $50

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Refurbished-20GB-LIVE-Starter/dp/B002N5KV4A/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1259029011&sr=1-8

datel is targeting people planning to hack gamesaves or their gamerscores, has little to do with making for a more competitive market. Datel has always been a scummy company which have always made products for pirates and hackers.

I think you're missing the point here. What Microsoft is doing is called vendor blocking, which is an anti-competitive business practice. They're locking out their hardware to only work with their proprietary technology, which is meant to deter competition and allow them to price at whatever they want since there is no competition. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact.

What Datel is doing is creating a product that works as an alternative. If that's used for hacked game saves is completely besides the point because it's being sold as a cheaper and higher capacity alternative. The first party memory cards are not only much more expensive for their capacity, but they don't allow the much higher capacities you get with a microSD card that can be swapped and used with a different product.

So while Microsoft may claim to be protecting security and stopping cheaters, their number one interest is stopping their superior, better valued competition. Again, this isn't an opinion, it's a fact. You can like or dislike hackers all you want, but this doesn't have shit to do with that.

As for the hard drive, a shitty and easily broken headset that comes with every 360 and a measly 3 months of live doesn't make a 20GB hard drive being sold for $50 more appealing then a 60GB one being sold at the same price, especially considering the fact that a lot of people looking to buy hard drives these days want to upgrade from their 20GB units they go with their Pros, not buy an Arcade and get their first hard drive.

lol no, you just need licensing to produce products, datel never seeked to get approved licensing they simply started to sell them knowing that they were unlawful and promoted cheating.

the way the memory cards work make it obvious that the intended purpose of these cards is to transfer them to a pc and do all sorts of modification to the data. Otherwise they would have kept the memory cards in an enclosure.

there isnt even really a market for memory cards anyways since most people use a harddrive. these memory cards are going directly for users intended for hacking saves/gamerscore. These things go for $40 (not including the microsd), when ms sells 20GB starter kits for $50 officially. Has little to do with competition its an obvious publicity grab by datel.

@DeepFriedSushi

Actually, the Datel Max Memory Cards did come with the microSD cards. And they do serve a function besides hacking/game save modding.

Shadow Complex is 815MB, and many other XBLA games have surpassed that size. An official memory card can no longer store most XBLA games.

Also, the DMMC serves another purpose. Trials HD has a limit on the number of custom tracks you can download. Originally 100 per storage device, it has since been raised to 200. Many people bought DMMCs so they could use multiple microSD cards, to get around the track limits.

I believe there are usb cables you can buy that hook up direct to official memory cards, and would be much cheaper than buying a Max Memory

Anybody who actually relies on a 3rd party memory card for ANY system deserves to have their saved data lost.

Broke people, I got nothin against you, I'm one myself.
I'm just saying save data (and time spent) can't be replaced so I use official memory cards to be sure. I had to learn from experience. Now when it comes to keeping the last 60+ hours of whatever game safe, I spare no expense.

The 3rd party companies, however... They owe me ghost data for Mario Kart 64, a complete career in LEGO Racers, and an epic THPS2 skatepark, lost wages and pain and suffering. I'll see them in court.