PSP Go isn't cannablizing PSP sales, House says
by Ben Gilbert 
{ Nov 25th 2009 at 6:00PM } 
He even goes as far as to state that "those sales [PSP Go sales] have come in and lifted overall PSP sales" – something we've heard stated before by execs at Sony Europe. We're not exactly sure what the strategy is behind using your new $250 PSP to sell your old (and arguably more feature-rich) PSP-3000, but we're still hopeful that Sony sees a long-term plan where we see a really expensive, download-only handheld.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
RKN (Steam ID: nerdydesi) @ Nov 25th 2009 6:06PM
Oh please, if anything, it is the latter, the 3000 series cannibalizing the GO's sales!
That Guy @ Nov 25th 2009 8:56PM
I don't see how the Go could cannibalize anything when it's only sold like three units.
Darth Bradwart, The Dark Lord of the Sith @ Nov 25th 2009 6:06PM
Cue comments about how the Go is a failure...now.
Reuben @ Nov 25th 2009 6:09PM
Oh, man, I hate when people do that.
Bad, bad, Darth.
brian @ Nov 25th 2009 6:29PM
it's a huge success, not only is it selling moderately well, but it has boosted sales of the 3000 model by miles.
eeeeeeeeeeefe @ Nov 25th 2009 6:29PM
They are just ret@rds, they clearly can't do simple math. The sales of PSP and PSPGo are higher than DS and DSI sales in Europe, US and Japan...
Go figure...
The little kids here pretend that the GO sucks, as it means they can't trade their games in for $2, so the nice man at Gamestop can resell them for $15...
CaramelZappa @ Nov 25th 2009 7:03PM
The go isn't a failure actually. It's a really nice device and the most portable handheld in the market at the moment. The price, on the other hand, is full of fail.
Fernando Rocker @ Nov 25th 2009 7:17PM
eeeeefe
What are you talking about?
The DS sales here in USA only per month are higher than the PSP sales worlwide. The only place where the PSP outsells the DS very often is in Japan, and only by a little difference... like 15,000 of difference.
Not THAT Matt @ Nov 25th 2009 8:27PM
eeeeeeeeeeefe,
First, I'm twenty three. Second, the PSP Go "sucks" because something like 80-85% of the games in existance for the PSP aren't available for download on the PSN Store, thus making the PSP Go a digital distribution console with little to digitally distribute - it's a game console without games.
And it's over-priced.
Marcus Carter @ Nov 25th 2009 6:09PM
I'm not ready to let my psp 1001 go yet .....and plus i cant put new games in thing unless i down load it for $40. bucks,what a drag.
Draco @ Nov 26th 2009 1:07PM
Where did you get a PSP 1001 Go?
Ridgecity @ Nov 27th 2009 3:10PM
That would be a hacked one with hundreds of roms of gaming history and access to the whoe PSP library if you want.
The funny thing is, with a hacked PSP, the best games come from Nintendo and Sega...
charlie b. @ Nov 25th 2009 6:11PM
DUAL SYSTEMS!? OH MAH GAHD.
CarpeD1em500 @ Nov 25th 2009 6:12PM
Is it sad that I use my original PSP for snes, nes, gameboy, gba and genesis games (along with some media streaming and video watching) and no actual PSP games?
brian @ Nov 25th 2009 6:30PM
why would that be sad?
nothing is more rewarding that playing mario kart 64 on your psp on the subway and having people ask you how the fuck thats possible.
MaJoR @ Nov 25th 2009 6:42PM
nothing is more rewarding that playing mario kart 64 on your psp on the subway and having people ask you how the fuck thats possible.
Cause it's not. PSP N64 emulation is still pretty pathetic. Perhaps one could run the game, but I double one could view half speed as playable.
brian @ Nov 25th 2009 6:51PM
umm, maybe you havent seen the newest emulator, but i can play mario kart 64 at pretty much full speed.
it only really slows down in the cinematics (which really, i dont care about, it's a racing game)
Punkrawk Bbob @ Nov 25th 2009 6:15PM
I hope this doesn't bomb. I really wanted the digital downloads to succeed. May be a bit of the "ahead of it's time" thing, like the Dreamcast was with online play.
Really hope IF it fails though I can find one cheap, and they (homebrew community) release ISO loaders so I can rip UMDs to the hard drive. It's a shame for a device this sexy to go completely to waste. If digital download doesn't take off in 2010, this is gonna be the next Virtual Boy.
pigeon toucher @ Nov 25th 2009 6:19PM
HOUSE said that?
Darth Bradwart, The Dark Lord of the Sith @ Nov 25th 2009 6:21PM
Andrew, not Gregory.
sRc @ Nov 25th 2009 7:43PM
Dr. House was my first thought as well
then I thought of the government body but that didn't seem right either
Meh @ Nov 26th 2009 8:24AM
I was expecting Dr.House (the commenter) to come along and say "I didn't say shit" or something and be automatically upvoted, guess he overslept
Karate Tortoise @ Jan 31st 2010 1:10AM
In related news, the PSP Go doesn't have lupus
WFOphill @ Nov 25th 2009 6:29PM
I can't believe there is so much hate on the PSPGo STILL. it is still a better value and use than the Itouch.
The Phats are still too big to be considered portable.
I am extremely happy with the Go.
eeeeeeeeeeefe @ Nov 25th 2009 6:31PM
The ones complaining are those that don't enough pocket money to buy one. For the rest of us, it's awesome kit...
brian @ Nov 25th 2009 6:33PM
i've already stated that i think the go is kinda nice, but i am in no way jealous of it when using my phat.
RKN (Steam ID: nerdydesi) @ Nov 25th 2009 6:39PM
Give me a large capacity battery for it, I don't like when the older models can attain more battery life than the GO.
Then a White Kid Said @ Nov 25th 2009 7:00PM
"The Phats are still too big to be considered portable"
Really? because i've had countless train journeys with loco roco that can prove you wrong.
MaJoR @ Nov 25th 2009 7:10PM
I have gone all over with my PSP Phat. I don't know what you are talking about.
kenny goo @ Nov 25th 2009 6:44PM
I was with you Joystiq, until you said even put out the idea that the Brite was more "feature rich" than the Go. Overprice I agree with, but more feature rich? You think you might wanna cut the bullshit, bias journalism and write a fucking story for once?
Seriously, how is a portable with that's smaller and lighter with 16GB of internal storage, Bluetooth, and connectivity with a Dualshock less "feature rich", then a bigger, heavier portable with no internal storage or Bluetooth support? Does a UMD drive, which many people (Joystiq included) claimed was the worst thing about the PSP, really make it more feature rich than a portable with those additions?
That's really, really fucking ridiculous.
Then a White Kid Said @ Nov 25th 2009 7:05PM
Whereas I agree with you, I stopped expecting real news stories from them a long time ago, basically I stick around because sometime's their comments are funny and that pumpkin thing was kinda cool.
MaJoR @ Nov 25th 2009 7:07PM
Really? How are any of these things the Phat can't do? Let's see.
16GB of internal memory = 16gig MS Pro Duo.
Bluetooth + Connectivity with Dualshock = Any of the billions of accessories for the PSP 1k-3k that the PSP Go doesn't support. As for the Dualshock support, that is a joke. Are you going to put your PSP in your lap and play it with a controller? I think not. Can games for the Go be customized to take advantage of the dual joysticks of the dualshock 3? No. It's a gimmick that will quickly pass.
The PSP 3k can do everything the Go can do. Plus the ability to play physical games via UMD, and removeable batteries, and a cheaper memory card format, and a larger screen making things easier to see, and a better more intuitive button layout, and compatibility with thousands of accessories.
As for the whole Ipod Touch comparison thing, oh please. The cheapest iPod Touch has 32gigs of internal memory for $250, not to mention a vastly superior inferface, a browser that doesn't suck, and the appstore allowing it to do billions of things other then just gaming or media. The PSP Go is a gaming handheld with the added options of some media functions, but the iPod Touch is a full smartphone (minus the phone), able to browse the web, GPS tracking, full media functions with a wide array of formats and purchasing media options while on the device, excellent keyboard, and the ability to do billions of different tasks.
Darth Bradwart, The Dark Lord of the Sith @ Nov 25th 2009 7:18PM
The 32GB Touch is 350 or so. And it's a poor design, crippled by Apple's craptastic software.
sdsdfsfd @ Nov 25th 2009 7:19PM
Don't you know, Joystiq are allowed to totally flip it's opinion, from hating UMD to loving UMD, The ret@rds here won't notice at all..
Punkrawk Bbob @ Nov 25th 2009 8:15PM
Major... You're an idiot. If you could have a Go for free, or a 3000, you're saying you'd take the 3000? I call bullshit.
"16GB of internal memory = 16gig MS Pro Duo."
Or... 16gb internal+16gib pro duo=32gb vs 16gb. Besides, a legit 16gig (one that will last more than a month before going corrupt) is like $90. So tag that onto the price to match what's internal (and expandable past) on the PSPGo.
Let's continue.
"Plus the ability to play physical games via UMD"
-Yes, because draining my short battery life is EXACTLY what I want to do. Oh, let's not forget about the feature rich load times linked to physical media formats.
"and removeable batteries"
-Really, do you carry around a spare battery for your PSP? I just figured charge it once a day, and if it dies that day I've been playing too damn much outside of the house, when you're supposed to be doing shit.
"and a cheaper memory card format"
-Huh... I was under the impression that they both used MS Pro Duo. Crazy, because my 8gb stick from my PSP Phat works fine on a PSPgo.
"and a larger screen making things easier to see"
-If you can't see a screen that's fucking an arms reach away from you, see an optometrist. It's larger than a DS screen, GBA screen, GB screen, iPhone screen, and any other cell phone you've ever owned. Really, do you have trouble seeing ANY OF THESE devices? You sound like an idiot.
"and a better more intuitive button layout, and compatibility with thousands of accessories."
-Intuitive button layout? They're the same. Four buttons shaped like a dpad, opposite of a Dpad. Two shoulder buttons *gasp* on the shoulders. Its not like jumping from the original Xbox to the Xbox-S controller. And compatibility with thousands of accessories? List me 10 useful accessories on the PSP that wont work with the PSPGo and I'll bite on that one. Currently my PSP accessories are
A) MS Pro Duo stick
B) USB / Charge cable to PC
C) My pocket
I understand, spending money scares you. Still no reason to write a bullshit report on everything the PSPGo DOESN'T fail on.
Punkrawk Bbob @ Nov 25th 2009 8:18PM
oh, and PS - you complain about using a PS3 controller to play on the Go as a fad... then you complain that the controls aren't intuitive. Do you not see they implemented that feature for people like you that complain about it? Personally I would have loved to of used a PS3 controller for my 173 hours of Dissidia instead of using my PSP. Prop it up on a cradle on the desk and go to down. Sounds pretty sweet to me actually.
MaJoR @ Nov 25th 2009 8:21PM
@Darth
iPod Touch 32gig is $280. iPod Touch 16gig is $250. And I don't care what you think of apple's software, one thing is for sure, the PSP's browser can't render pages for squat, yet the iPhone's browser works the way it should. Combined with the customizability of billions of apps (not just games) via the appstore, and it is a great little smart-minus-phone.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/09/ipod-touch-prices-dramatically-slashed/
MaJoR @ Nov 25th 2009 8:53PM
@Punkrawk Bbob
Idiot idiot idiot? Here is a tip. Don't insult people when you counter their points. Makes you look like, well, whatever you are calling them.
Now, let's counter your points.
16+16=32Gig - Uh huh. Remember, the PSP is $80 cheaper. So, with an $60 official sony stick from amazon, the PSP 3K with 16GB is cheaper then the PSP Go. And don't forget PSP 3k doesn't require the games be on it, freeing up gig after gig for your media collection.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.html/187-8783851-6705122?sp=1&a=B0013AX2HO
Physical games eating battery life - The PSP Go has the same battery life that the PSP 3K has, even when playing games on the UMD Drive. Huh. So that means, if I am not playing a UMD, say, watching a movie on the stick or playing a game on the stick, the battery life of the 3K is BETTER then the Go. Hmm. Interesting. In fact, IGN here rates the PSP Go's battery life while playing games as less even when compared to the PSP 3K playing games with the UMD.
http://gear.ign.com/articles/102/1028741p2.html
Removeable batteries - Yes, I have taken more then one battery with me. I did something the PSP Go can't do, I bought a larger capacity batter for my phat. Try getting that for your Go. Then, I had the old lower capacity battery charged and ready for a backup on the plane. But I didn't need it, 8 hours of flying on a plane, and with careful use of the screen brightness, I had power the whole time.
Cheaper Memory Card format - 16gig of memory on amazon: $60. 16gig of memory minus a UMD drive = $80 Where is the confusion here?
Larger Screen - I seem to recall the DSi LL, having a screen almost as big as the PSP 1k-3K, yet having much lower resolution, selling far better then the PSP Go. Hey, I am all for higher resolutions, but there comes a point where a bigger screen is just nice, and I for one think the PSP 1k-3k has it just right. But, I will confess, this is a matter of opinion on my part.
Better button layout vs. PS3 Controller - Let's get this straight. Playstation PORTABLE. It's in the name. Squinting cause it is far away issues aside, putting the PSP Go on a dock so you can play it with your controller is nice sure, but this is a portable game device. The whole point of it's existence is to bring gaming to where you can't sit down and play it on a console. So unless you like juggling your PSP Go and your PS3 controller while on the road, you are going to be detached from your controller playing habits most of the time.
finnith @ Nov 25th 2009 9:40PM
@sdsd....
I wouldn't say that they "love" the UMD, the argument that Joystiq's making is related more to the benefits of physical media in general, i.e. the ability to resell, the cheaper price at retailers, ability to loan it to friends, etc.
@Darth
The only problem I see in Apple products is that they're locked i.e. not open source. But there's so much third-party support for the iPod Touch that I think that factor's outweighed.
I think Sony sort of worked themselves into a corner what with the single analog stick layout and proprietary format. Hindsight is 20/20, and they screwed up a lot early on.
kenny goo @ Nov 26th 2009 12:23AM
@ MaJoR
The fact of the matter is the PSP Go COMES with 16GB of flash built in, and the older PSP's don't. It has something useful built in that the older models don't have, making it more feature rich. That's a FACT.
The only accessories the Go doesn’t support is the TV tuner (JP only) and GPS & camera (only sold in JP/EU, hardly used, and hardly useful). Stop exaggerating, and if you live in the US I’m sure you don’t have any of these accessories. As for the Dualshock, just because YOU don’t use it doesn’t mean somebody else won’t, because there are people who want that. Stop being a close minded, ignorant fool.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_touch
The 8GB 2nd gen is $200, and doesn’t have the upgrades from the 3rd gen model. They don’t produce 16GB models anymore, so prices are retailer specific as they’re getting rid of old stock. From there a 32GB is $300 and a 64GB is $400. Next time fact check before you bring a totally irrelevant topic into this conversation. I didn’t mention the iPod Touch, you did. Stop with the flame bait.
The old PSPs had large screens and weren’t pocketable. They slimmed the unit down, and made it pocketable, just like the iPod Touch you love so much. The DSi and Lite did the same thing, but the XL is made for older people, or for those playing at home. These are the same people who’d be playing a Go with a Dualshock and video out cables, or having the clunky original PSP with an extended battery, just like you. Face it kid, you’re a troll and a hypocrite. Get over it.
MaJoR @ Nov 27th 2009 1:39AM
@Kenny Doo
Kid, troll, hypocrit, closed minded ignorant fool? I am just saying points, with evidence and logic to back it up. Why is there some need to insult me because of it? You could just counter my points and move on. But hey, I am willing to keep going, and you obviously are since you brought this back up, so, let's go another round.
So, having 16gig of built in memory makes all the other features that the PSP Go lacks disappear, and that is a "FACT"? So, are you denying that the PSP Go is unable to play UMDs, unable to use any of the PSPs accessories, has less battery life, and is unable to swap out batteries? And remember, the PSP with a 16gig memory stick pro duo is cheaper then the PSP Go, so I can keep the UMD drive, get all the 16gigs of memory, and pocket some cash in return. And remember, with UMDs that 16gig can go farther as you don't have to carry all your games on it, but even if you want to download games to the PSP's memory stick you can, as the PSP 1k-3k can downloadanything on the Playstation store that the PSP Go can.
As for accessories. The PSP Go has removed the accessory port and the micro-USB connection, replacing both of them with a new proprietary format. The accessory port and the micro-USB slot are the only means for a PSP accessory to interface with the device. Furthermore, most PSP accessories are built to the shape of the device, such as the sockets on the top for holding accessories in place, or the size of the screen, or the thickness of the unit. Baring some form of convoluted adapter system, which doesn't exist at this time, there is no way for the PSP Go to use PSP 1k or PSP 2k-3k accessories.
On the issue of the dualshock, you failed to counter my point. Alhough I momentarilly mentioned issues with having the small screen at such a distance from your face because of a dock, I stated that using a Dualshock3 was gimmick because this system is the Playstation portable. You talked about the improved portability as a significant advantage to the PSP Go; Yet the dual shock 3 is hardly a fit in your pocket device, it is more then the width of the PSP and the PSP Go stacked on top of one another! So, you buy the PSP Go for portability, but would carry something that was twice it's size to play it? That makes little sense. Furthermore, how are you going to play the PSP Go with the DS3 on the road? I suggested a form of juggling, maybe you should try it sometime. I have heard that it is not good for scores.
As for the iPod touch, you are correct, the link I gave was out of date. But $50 for double the memory, in addition to other better media and smartphone-minus-phone options when compared to the PSP Go, this all seems like a fair deal. So my original point remains that the PSP Go is not the best comparison to the iPod Touch. As for where the comment on the iPod originated, I mentioned it in regards to a previous comment on this article. It is a common practice to address more then one thing in a reply on joystiq, after all. In the future I will be sure to keep things clearer.
Ooo, personal insults because I like the phat. So I didn't want to lose all of my UMD games by "upgrading" to the PSP Go, and I saw no need to spend money for a PSP Go when I like what I already have. How is this offensive to you? The PSP and the PSP Go are essentially the same platform. Why are you attacking me for supporting the platform that the PSP Go is built on? Without people like me who bought and loved the PSP 1k the Go would never have existed.
Ahh, I rather enjoy a little debate. I look forward to your rebuttle.
kenny goo @ Nov 27th 2009 3:20AM
@ MaJoR
"Kid, troll, hypocrit, closed minded ignorant fool?"
Your behavior is childish, you're coming here to shit talk the Go and completely ignore it's positives, your comments are contradictory, and you're blatantly ignoring portions of the gaming community because you're not part of them.
Hmm... I'm pretty sure that makes all my comments, while still harsh or insulting, 100% called for. Moving on...
Having a feature that another device doesn't have makes you more feature rich. That's common sense and follows the conventions of standard written English. The Go has built in storage, the Brite does not. That addition, with others, makes it more feature rich. I'm not talking about anything else, so stop changing the topic.
I've already mentioned what accessories that came out for the original PSP that the Go cannot use, and why it's not that big of a deal. Rather than repeating yourself, how about you respond to my point on why you're exaggerating and bringing up a point irrelevant to your own usage of the device?
Gimmick or no gimmick, your blatant ignorance in claiming Dualshock support is a non used feature is ridiculous. The Dualshock, alone or with TV out cables, is a valid way to play that people use. Even without dual analog support, the controller is still superior to the PSP's gamepad. While the Go is designed for portability, the addition of a feature allows for the best of both worlds. It's really not that hard to understand.
If you can't understand that my, in all respects, extremely passive insults had nothing to do with your interests, and everything to do with the ridiculous way you chose to speak and present yourself, then that's really not my problem.
And as an aside, I bought and owned original PSP. Just for the record.
MaJoR @ Nov 28th 2009 5:28AM
@Kenny Doo
My behavior is childish? You claim to be insulting me because of my manner, yet despite the fact you have thrown insults at me I have yet to throw one back at you. There is no need to throw insults, passive or otherwise, simply because of a disagreement. Debate is not about who is right or who is wrong, and not even about who "wins", it is about two parties with disagreements coming together and debating their points till the flawed points are pointed out and the superior points are accepted by both parties. It is about learning. But alas, this is a novelty in the world.
As for not pointing out the benefits of the PSP Go, I have mentioned it's features many times. The only features I have not mentioned is the smaller size and that has a the better screen of the PSP 3k without the scanlines. However, despite what you claim, I have by no means exaggerated or come here to talk smack. Neither have I strayed off topic. I am mearly countering your points, nothing more, nothing less. Look at what I have said, everything I bring up is in respond to what you have said, and in the order you said them.
Regardless, even if someone is using childish behavior, there is no reason to call insults such as idiot, child, etc. It only succeeds in cheapening your argument. Also, you claim that my argument is contradictory, yet fail to point out any specifics. In debates, saying someone has done something wrong such as contradicting himself without quoting said contradiction essentually will get you laughed at.Anyone can just claim something happened, but only when proof is provided will that claim stand. For example, I claim that the contradiction never happened. If you mention and point out said contradiction, I can no longer ignore it, I would have to address it. Proof goes a long way in an argument.
And that was just in addressing your comments. Hehe, we got a big one coming, cause now it is time to address your points. Note that until a point is adequately rebutted, properly and with logical counters, it retains value, and can be repeated in the future. So, on with the main points for the debate.
So, having one feature makes it more feature rich? This is a curious thing. So, say a new car model removes 3 features and adds one, does this make it more feature rich then the original? This is the problem of PSP Go. It removes more features then it adds, yet the PSP has all of the PSP Gos additional features and the features the PSP Go removed. Of course, I have said this before, but instead of addressing this you repeated what you said previously, that this feature and unmentioned others make it more feature rich. I have listed all the features I have used to make points for my argument, should I believe that something should be more feature rich when you can't even name the features? Should I even believe the features you haven't mentioned even exist?
Furthermore, the feature of the PSP Go has that you so tout, the 16gig internal memory, can be replicated with a memory card. Addon storage sure, but storage is storage. If the PSP required a cable and a brick to bring the additional memory that is built in on the go, I would agree with you, but in both cases, addon or built in, the memory disappears into the device. When one can buy the same or more memory as an addon, it disappears just the same, retains the ability to use physical media but with the option to use downloads, and is CHEAPER to buy the PSP and the addon then the PSP Go, then there is no benefit for having memory built in.
Furthermore, having built in memory is not an advantage over the PSP at all, because removeable memory is upgradeable. I have a 4gig stick for my PSP. If I want, I can upgrade to a 32gig stick in the future. Memory prices drop with time, it wasn't long ago that a gig of flash memory was hundreds of dollars. By having the memory built in, the Go has more memory then my PSP at the moment, but I can always buy another card and increase that. So when there is a 128gig memory stick pro duo for $10, I can buy that and upgrade my memory. The go's 16gig of memory is permanently stuck at 16gig. It can be expanded sure, with ADDON memory, the disadvantage you have so criticized the PSP for relying upon.
You accuse me of repeating myself. Maybe this is because my points were not countered, just ignored. For example, I talked about how PSP accessories can't be used on the PSP Go due to a different connector format. This is a serious difference, this means that every PSP accessory that uses these format (pretty much all of them) on the PSP cannot be used on the Go, because they physically cannot interface. Yet you don't address that, and claim that only a couple of (you claim) insignificant accessories that you list are excluded, and that by bringing up the connector and other accessories I am "exaggerating" the issue. What about the thousands of accessories you did not list? There is far more to the accessory business then just a TV tuner and GPS system. You can argue the value of said accessories if you desire, but that is just opinion and not a part of the point. The fact that they are there and not useable on the
PSP Go is the point I am making.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PSP-Hardware/b/ref=vg_nav_psp_allhardware?ie=UTF8&node=11076441&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=browse&pf_rd_r=0X9DXCX0QVG5T4RPFWKV&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=493797311&pf_rd_i=11075221
As for the dual shock, I did not say it was a non-used, I said that for the majority of applications it is useless. There is a vast difference. Remember, this is a portable device. If one could take a console, TV, power supply, and controller places they would. But they can't, and this is why handheld gaming exists. By bringing along a controller you would be denying this simple fact, and killing all forms of portability. Sure, it has uses: hooking it up to a TV is always a cool thing, having a better control mechanism is a good thing, I used to do both with my nomad back in the day. But when it comes down to it, it is a novelty, because the whole point of a handheld is to play games where you can't hook up and TV and can't bring a controller. Do you play your PSP more at home, or on the road? For the vast majority, it is the latter. And my point this whole time has been that it can only be used when it is stationary, and that the times where the handheld is taken places, the majority of the time, it is not a useful feature.
Although it is opinion I believe the "best of both world" between console and handheld is the ability to bring console games, which are arguably superior to handheld games, on the road, not tethering a handheld to a television and controller. Feel free to agrue that if you wish, but there is no "best of both worlds" beyond opinion, so your response will be placed in that category, unless you can provide a logical argument with supporting evidence that states that your opinion is infact "the best of both worlds".
You know, there is something I forgot to mention. In your first post, you criticize joystiq for not liking the Gos built in memory despite hating the UMD format. Why do people hate the UMD format? It is slow, and eats battery life. The PSP Go, despite having no UMD drive, has no improvements on loading times and worse battery life. See why they dislike the Go even when they disliked the UMD? The go has the same disadvantages the UMD had, without any of the benefits.
Well anyway, this is pretty fun. I think I got a few rounds left in me. The floor is yours.
kenny goo @ Nov 28th 2009 2:26PM
@ MaJoR
"...simply because of a disagreement."
Yea.... I'm not gonna continue to repeat myself. If you can't read what I'm saying and comprehend it, and know that's got nothing to do with it, then that's not my problem. I won't speak on this any further.
Look man, it’s a PSP Go vs Brite conversation here. There was no need to bring up the iPod or the DS, as they had nothing to do with any of this. That’s typical behavior of a troll. If you don’t want somebody to call you out on being a troll, don’t do things a troll would do. You seem to have had some epiphany and are being less narrow minded and unfairly critical, but that’s still how you started this conversation.
How could you possibly say that the Go, which is far more portable then the original PSPs, would hardly be played with a Dualshock on the go or on a trip/plane ride when you carry around a heavy ass Phat with an extended battery AND a back up battery? That’s completely contradictory.
And just for record, I never said anybody would be trying to carrying around a Dualshock in their pocket, nor did I say that most of the Dualshock’s use would be for on the go. The only reason I’m saying this is because of how unportable the usage of your portable system is. You could bring the Dualshock on a plane or car ride, but combined with video out cables it’s much more for at the home use, like those old laptop docking stations.
Let’s see if you can understand what I’m saying *this* time: Having more features then another device makes you more feature rich than it. Having one new feature helps a device in and of it self be more feature rich. The Brite can use a 16GB memory stick, but so can the Go. On the subject of memory, the PSP Go is more feature rich then the Brite because it has 16GB of built in memory.
As a whole, taking into consideration the new *features* the PSP Go has, I think it’s extremely biased journalism of Joystiq to claim that the Brite is potentially more feature rich than the Go. The Go is smaller, lighter, has a screen with a higher PPI and no interlacing issues, Bluetooth functionality, Dualshock support, and 16GB of built in memory. The Brite has a UMD drive (the bane of the systems existence for the last few years), swappable batteries (which matters to few people), and accessory compatibility (none of which launched in the US, were used by few, and supported by next to none).
If YOU wanna claim the Brite is more feature rich then the Go, by all means, go ahead, but the Go is the new model and it has more *features*, albeit less compatibility with the oft complained about or the rarely used. If you wanna talk price, I’ve said it from the beginning, the Brite’s a better value, but putting that aside, the Go is a better portable. Though that last tidbit’s just my own opinion of course.
On the topic of accessories, I’ve addressed them multiple times, it’s not my problem that for whatever reason you’re ignoring that. The three accessories not compatible and not replaceable on the Go weren’t sold in the US. Due to lack of availability and the cost of importing, those accessories are of little importance to a buyer in the US (like myself and most of the people who frequent Joystiq).
That’s called LOGIC. It doesn’t have shit to do with an opinion. How hard can this POSSIBLY be for you to understand? And please, stop stating the PSP has thousands of accessories because that’s a ridiculous exaggeration. Oh, and if you’re going to reference my first post, be sure to actually read it. My quote:
“Does a UMD drive, which many people (Joystiq included) claimed was the worst thing about the PSP, really make it more feature rich than a portable with those additions?”
This has nothing to do with battery life or internal storage or load times, and has everything to do with Joystiq knocking UMD and waiting for a digital only solution, and then when they get one claim that lack of UMD support hurts this digital only system. Stop convoluting your argument with irrelevance. You have a real problem with that you know.
Rob47 @ Nov 25th 2009 6:45PM
I thing digital distribution is a good idea. However it has it's place is the beginning of a products lifecycle not near the end of it, if it has to be at this point cutting out opical media fully isn't a good idea.
Where I work we don't sell the Go in a bundle at all, and in the back we're told to dissuade people from buying them and point them toward a 3000. Which isn't all that hard as to an idiot buyer it's more expensive and does less.
Rob47 @ Nov 25th 2009 6:46PM
Ouch some bad grammar my bad.
RKN (Steam ID: nerdydesi) @ Nov 25th 2009 6:55PM
It's not only "idiot" buyers that think it does less for more money buddy.
Rob47 @ Nov 25th 2009 7:02PM
True but to proper gamers it does have the advantage of keeping a lot of games with you at once. Idiots don't even see that.
CaramelZappa @ Nov 25th 2009 11:20PM
You have a point, but all of the games you can buy on the PSP go you can also buy on the PSP slim. Granted, in the slim you'll have to put in your own memory stick, but you'll also be able to get cheap umd games, and a large number of games in sony's umd catalog aren't available on the go. If you're a "proper gamer" as you say I'd think you would care about being able to play all the games available instead of just the ones sony's decided to put on PSN.
MaJoR @ Nov 25th 2009 6:47PM
The reason the Go isn't taking sales from the PSP 3k? Cause the Go is selling hardly at all!
I guess even the average consumer is smart enough to realized that $80 more and reduced features isn't a good buy.
*Hugs his PSP Phat*