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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 9:44AM krautmaster said

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But once again they don't bother with a 1080i patch. If EA did it for Burnout, everyone should be able to.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 9:59AM (Unverified) said

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reallY?@
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:21AM s ls said

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1080i is for douchebags
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 11:21AM Helghast102 said

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720p > 1080i
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 11:34AM leslij55 said

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The reason some people want 1080i support in games is because (although quite rare), there are TVs that have 1080i, but not 720p, so these people are forced to play games that only support 720p in SD, which sucks..
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 12:11PM BSprague said

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@Joe

That's a common misconception. The number (720 or 1080), is how many vertical rows of pixels the television has. Therefore, televisions that are capable of 1080i should be capable of 1080p. In this case, televisions that say they are 1080i are actually just televisions that can accept 1080i signal and downscale it to 720p, versus just rejecting the signal all together. Downscaling 1080i to 720p still brings in the interlacing issues with panning though, so you're basically left with a 720i signal. 1080i televisions are basically just marketing terms. A television either has 720 rows of pixels, or 1080.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 1:16PM phoenix2088 said

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@ BSprague

Incorrect. Early HDTVs (CRT and CRT rear projection) were in fact 1080i only and DISPLAYED in 1080i as well.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 2:13PM Nobledevil Gaming Optimist said

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Phoenix and Joe are dead on - there are people I have known that had 480p/1080i TVs. Admittedly, though, I thought the PS3 was able to play any resolution on any other setting seeing as how I occasionally make the mistake of leaving my system on an improper setting (I switch for optimal settings from projector to monitor and for different games/movies) and the content plays just fine, if sometimes jaggy as sin.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 6:21PM koehler83 said

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Get a new TV. 1080i is chump.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 6:23PM (Unverified) said

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I can attest to Phoenix2088's comment because I owned a rear projection [HD]TV that didn't have an HDMI port but could only accept an HD signal of 1080i through its DVI port. It's good I switched to an LCD HDTV when the PS3 started gaining momentum :)
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 9:48AM skyzbig said

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What a great video.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 9:52AM JF67 said

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Would this apply to the PSP version as well?
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:57AM (Unverified) said

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Nope.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 9:54AM Kurian said

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No PSP support.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:20AM s ls said

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the PSP version is an entirely different game by another studio
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:34AM (Unverified) said

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honestly i like the psp costumes more
they seem more cutesy[sp?]
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:06AM (Unverified) said

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love the guys voice
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:06AM (Unverified) said

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Rather delightful video :)
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:06AM MrAlex said

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Nice Update, very satisfied by the changes, looking forward to water
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:06AM HTCEVO said

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Wow, I think I'll go ahead and try the level editor more seriously now, especially that I can get help.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:24AM s ls said

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Yes! Hopefully I can save my Luigi Costume and Jack Skellington from getting the red exclamation of doom.

I love MediaMolecule and cheese. Great update as always.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:39AM (Unverified) said

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Argh! Why can't I have a PS3, I think I might sell my 360. I've never played this game, but I've been tracking it and it looks soooo fun! I love user created content and games, especially level creators, I think I will get a PS3, maybe sell my 360.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:45AM danthe57 said

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if you can afford to... keep the 360 and get the PS3, I am mainly a PS3 player and I will admit that I am glad I also have a 360 for the occasional exclusive.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:55AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, I'll save some money, sell a lot of my games, then just buy a used one, I could still talk to my friends off live.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 6:42PM Katana Master said

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Halo has to be one of the biggest games for custom content. Forge, Screenshots, Films, etc...
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 10:47AM Sly C said

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awesome! now i can actually get back into LBP. with my prop design skills, and my friend's ideas for gameplay and level design, we can make a killer level online. now let's get water out...
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 11:30AM Hyams said

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These are some awesome (and in the case of the network code, much needed) improvements. Loving it.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 11:47AM Jacksy said

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This is going to make a lot of people shut the hell up....then again it might bring up some more idiocy.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 12:02PM Helghast102 said

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"Checkpoints can now be activated using switches."

Epic win right there.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 1:20PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, two of my levels are unfinished just for that reason. I have to find crazy ways to destroy checkpoints just to be able to get sackboy to respawn there.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 12:09PM Gandalf the Grey said

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If this gets rid of the lag maybe I'll be actually able to play with other people...
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Posted: Dec 5th 2009 8:20AM (Unverified) said

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Dude, the lag isn't from the game but you. Go to your router settings, take off your firewall (You do have an anti-virus program on your PC?) and enable UPNP, then network test on PS3 and you should have Nat type 2.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 12:15PM SmilinGoat said

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i just played it last night, online family night with my girlfriends family.

anyway, they need to add water, its been forever now.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 1:11PM Steven4 said

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Fuck yes. Me and my friends will be playing this a whole lot more now.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 1:31PM Im No Hero said

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Anything that helps bring more awesome levels to LBP is a very good thing!
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 2:25PM Jacksy said

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And we still have water coming, imagine that! I think it'll give LBP a push of fresh new ways of creating levels with things that cope for water. Lets just hope that people can wait and not post whining posts everywhere, it must be close since MM already said it's coming, I mean. Why else would they tease us?
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 2:22PM Nobledevil Gaming Optimist said

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I just picked LBP back up and was smiling shortly thereafter. I'll be eagerly waiting what the community comes up soon after this update.

I still wish the jump wasn't so floaty or that they had a gravity tool in the creation mode, but those are nitpicks in an otherwise awesome bucket of... well, awesome.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 3:22PM Roto13 said

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Hah, they´re removing the Play, Create, Share scores entirely instead of trying to fix them. :P
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 3:32PM ALittleWeeny said

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Awesome! Can't wait but can anybody explain to me how 1080i is better than 720p?

I have a 1080p TV so is that better than 720p?

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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 3:36PM ALittleWeeny said

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Err... whoops worse. I meant worse.
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 5:10PM ptcamn said

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1080p is better than 720p. The big diference is whether you see the "p" or the"i" after the number. The "p" means that the image is "progressive scan" while the "i" means "interlaced".

Progressive scan is how computer monitors work: you are shown a full image, from the first pixel of every horizontal line on the left to the last pixel on the right, all at once just as if you were looking at a picture in your hand. This takes more processing than an interlaced image but produces better quality. The number (720 or 1080) indicates the number of horizontal lines present on that TV. The more lines you have the better resolution (and thus quality) you get as long as the source was recorded (or is processed) at the same resolution.

An interlaced TV, on the other hand, is based on the original technology used to display images on a cathode ray tube TV (CRT). Back in the dawn of TV, due to technical limitations, the creation of the image was split into two fields. That is, in a CRT monitor what looks like a complete image is actually created in two passes of "interlaced" fields. The cathode ray cannon first scans the first row of pixels starting with row 1 at the top left corner and moving all the way to the right. Once that line is activated it skips row 2 and jumps straight to row 3. It keeps doing this until all odd fields are activated (ending at field 719 on a 720i monitor). Once all odd fields are active it goes back to the top and starts scanning all the even fields starting with line 2 at the upper left corner.

Now, by the time the even fields have been activated the odd ones have turned off. The reason we don't see a gap is due to a property on our eyes known as Persistence of Vision. Bright images remain imprinted in our eyes for a bit longer after we stop looking at them as the chemical properties of the eyes go back to normal. Have you ever looked for several minutes at the drawing of a white ghost over a black paper only to turn your head to a wall and seeing the ghost floating there? That's persistence of vision working. On TV's because the scanning of the 2 fields are happening at milliseconds the image is completed in our eyes before we have the chance to see the gap. This is also used in film projections but for different reasons.

In regards to the quality between a 1080i and 1080p the difference is that because the interlaced image is made up of two halves of an image you are truly only getting half the resolution each time (half the lines for the odd fields and half for the even ones). Even if the TV has an upscaler to 1080p the only thing that is doing is taking the lines in one field and just repeating them on the other ones to fill the gap and show a progressive scan image. However since this was done by taking half the resolution of the image and duplicating it the final result is one half the resolution. If we were to put the output of a 1080i image into a progressive scan image we would get 540p. A 1080p is fully 1080p.

Hope that helps.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2009 2:36PM Jamesology said

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@ Pat

WOW... I wish I can shake your hand and thank you for that definition. Every time I try to figure out what the difference is, unknown lingo is always used which gets me more confused. But you used no lingo plus gave examples. Damn that was fantastic!
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Posted: Nov 28th 2009 2:42PM Sly C said

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nice help there Pat! that was a surprisingly interesting read...
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 6:21PM tenacioustoaster said

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I wish they had mentioned switch activated checkpoints in the video, i almost missed that and out of all the new features that is the one im most excited for!
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Posted: Nov 27th 2009 11:08PM darkfocus said

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"You can now use the Sticker and Decoration tool and turn Sackboy around while in Customisation mode."

Yes!!! best part of this update next to online create
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Posted: Nov 28th 2009 1:13AM krautmaster said

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I'm sorry. I really didn't mean to turn this into a 720p vs 1080i discussion. I am one of those broke asses that has has a 1080i only, CRT HDTV.
I do think this is a really cool update. I was just whining this morning because it seems like every other piece of minutia is updated nowadays, except this issue the PS3 has with up-converting PS3 games. Other than that I'm a happy person. Just not a wise purchaser.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2009 3:24AM (Unverified) said

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For some reason I am still hesitant to believe they will release Online Multiplayer Create, after all this time, I guess I just don't know if I trust their word on it.
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Posted: Nov 28th 2009 11:26AM TuxBobble said

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It's just a shame this took so long to come out. If it had been around since the beginning, when it should have been, I would still be playing this game.

But since I've been looking forward to it so eagerly since so early on, I've completely lost interest in LBP. And as a result, I'm afraid to say, I doubt this patch will really renew my positive spirits about it.

Lesson to learn: Don't pretend you'll be able to create games online with your friends a year before you'll actually be able to do it. Surprise people with free content and they'll be happy. Include a feature in your game's list that doesn't work, and people will be unhappy for a long time. (Play,Create,Share levels shouldn't even be on the screen if they don't work, and Online Create is a really important feature to me)

I hope everyone does enjoy it though. I'll try to pick it back up because the game could have been a lot of fun...I'm just really disappointed about it, in general, and I'm afraid that might not fade so easily...
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Posted: Nov 29th 2009 10:13PM (Unverified) said

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For some reason, I can update now. Sweet updates, but undoing something could get annoying, because one person might do something great, but the other will screw it up. Still looking forward to the online create.
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