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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:33PM (Unverified) said

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Shame on you, California. You've fallen a long way since the 80's.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:36PM (Unverified) said

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shame on you for posting so much
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:38PM (Unverified) said

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You know what else has fallen a long way? The Planeteers.

Yep, I said it.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:39PM NaeemTHM said

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God damn it Captain Planet, don't you know better by now? Now this thread will be ruined by 40 people arguing.

V__V

*leaves for the day*
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:42PM (Unverified) said

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All of this Planeteer crap is really lame, All i see is the annoying members being apart of it.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:43PM Marco le Polo said

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@Captain Planet

Weren't you supporting him yesterday?

"Alright listen you mother fuckers, as long as Darth is under my protection, you little rat fuck son of a bitches need to relax. I didn't make him an honorary Planeteer for nothing."

No longer under your protection, eh? Then let the down voting commence!
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:55PM BigD145 said

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Fallen since the 80's? I think not. It's fallen a long way since the 1900. Oh how I miss the citrus groves and yore.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:57PM (Unverified) said

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I was meaning more of the tech side, the whole Silicon Valley era.

Probably doesn't help that they haven't elected a decent governor since Reagan.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:17PM Kid Icarus said

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@ Shaggitarius

what a dick
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:27PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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LOL...it appears I have an admirer. Pay no attention to the above Captain Planet.
I do acknowledge the fact that imitation is the most sincerest form of flattery, but seriously, get off my chode, imposter.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:29PM (Unverified) said

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what a twist !!
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:31PM gonintendo said

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the way to tell: the impostor has a private profile but the real one's profile is public.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:36PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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No, my profile is private as well (though you can still see my join date, July 2007). The imposter just signed up today. I think it's cute.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:47PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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@ Darth Bradwart

I just read your previous post Darth. I am deeply saddened by your decision to withdraw your Planeteer status. Mainly because you failed to do the proper investigating with the above imposter's post. I have many enemies in this world, (global warming, styrofoam, carbon dioxide, etc.) but never did I expect a fellow Planeteer to betray my trust.

With that said, I am revoking your Planeteer status, effect immediately. I now dub thee:

Darth Bradwart [Dishonorary Planeteer | Power of Jumping to Conclusions]

I was your one friend, ally and now you will wear this scarlet letter for eternity.


@ Szayel Aporro Grantz

Saving the world is lame? Remember that when your kids are forced to live underground with mole people.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 7:32PM (Unverified) said

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! ... who the hell are you?! an imposter :O
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 8:03PM finnith said

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This is really fucking confusing.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 8:48PM AoE said

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Holy fuck how old are you all? 12? Joystiq over the past year or so has developed easily the worst commenter community of all of the gaming blogs I read... Darth/Captain Planet (also although I don't see them here, fake Peter Moore, Bobby Kotick, etc.) thank you for ruining the comment section of this site for me. I've accomplished far more at work this year than I have in years past, and I've got you mildly-retarded lot to thank for it.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 11:08PM (Unverified) said

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It would be fine if everyone just ignored the down-votes, or ignored Brad if they hate him so much. That way we can pretend that we get along well.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:35PM Shagittarius said

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I work for a technology company in CA and our main company is in Washington. I think I just felt someone walk over my grave.

P.S. Yes I live in the San Fransisco Bay Area but only because I have to for my career. I would live any place else if I could this state sucks.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:53PM spin cycle said

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Sorry to inconvenience you. You'll never truly be happy living in a place that you think sucks, you really should get out. You can rebuild your career later.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:53PM CaramelZappa said

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I also live in the Bay Area, but I wouldn't move anywhere else in the US unless it was vital to my career. It's awesome here.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:56PM BigD145 said

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Move to Seattle. You'll be right at home with the traffic.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:09PM Shagittarius said

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I really only feel you can like living in california under 2 conditions:

1. You've lived here for less than 10 years.

or

2. You've never lived any place else.


If you've lived here longer than 10 years then you realize that the majority of people in Cali are completely phoney douches without a modicum of introspection. However if you've only lived in Cali then you wouldn't notice that would you.

Live on the East coast anywhere for a while it's far more genuine than the west coast. Don't get me wrong there are great people everywhere (except maybe in texas), its just that when I go out in the sea of humanity in Cali I always feel like I'm wading through a sea of turds looking for a few oysters.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:28PM CaramelZappa said

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I've traveled all over the country, and I disagree. There are phoney douches everywhere. Go to New York and you'll be putting up with even more douches than San Francisco. In general I like it here because there is a lot to do and a lot going on all the time, something I don't get in other parts of the country.

That said, no one place is good for everyone, so move. If the location of your job is costing you happiness, then what's the point? Why force yourself to live in a place you hate?
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:30PM eat it said

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I've lived in Philly for the majority of my life, and I've spent more time than I care to admit in New York. If you think the people on the east coast are less douchy, you are sorely mistaken.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:35PM Shagittarius said

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Your right people suck everywhere but I'll never believe that pound for pound any place has more douches than Northern California.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:36PM CaramelZappa said

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Not even southern California? Have you been to LA?
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:37PM Shagittarius said

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I actually like LA a lot more than Northern Ca. So maybe different strokes for different folks then. Our definitions of a douche may be totally different.

Anyways apparently I'm having a bad day...I'm going to stop nerd raging now...love ya guys!
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:38PM LaughingTarget said

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I'm backing Shag up here. I lived in Cali for 13 years and will never go back. Lived on both coasts and in the middle. Best place in the US? Texas, especially Austin or San Antonio.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:39PM Shagittarius said

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I take back what I said about Texas, I know at least one good guy there now too!

^5 Bro
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:54PM (Unverified) said

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Austin sucks, San Antonio is where its at
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 6:01PM spin cycle said

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I could see how someone would like LA better than the Bay Area. Different strokes for different folks. I like the Bay Area better personally, but LA has a lot of good qualities.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:52PM sigma8 said

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I'm liking this Riccitiello more and more. He closes a well-liked studio, and of course everyone reacts, usually negatively. But here he comes and offers a reasonable explanation about why it was closed. It makes sense.

If this were Bobby Kotick, he'd probably say something like "We closed Pandemic because they were enjoying themselves too much."
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:42PM Arsenic13 said

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It also didn't help that Mercenaries 2 was god awful.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:44PM ammar91994 said

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You know I think we've found the cure for that whole H1N1 pandemic, a healthy dose of digital distribution and California ;)

.......

*leaves*
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:45PM AirIntake said

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The ex-Pandemic employees should come to Edmonton and work for Bioware. I'm sure they'd love the weather we're having right now vs California.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:46PM (Unverified) said

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BioWare owned Pandemic before the merger with EA...
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:50PM HighFiveJesus said

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Pandemic was really just the Pyro from Team Fortress 2.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:48PM Heston said

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""In a world that used to be all PC, then used to be all console, now it's neither."

Lol

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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:01PM (Unverified) said

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Now it's the iPhone! lol
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:51PM spin cycle said

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It's only too expensive to locate lousy studios here. If you good work done and the people to do it are in California, it makes sense to be here. But paying California prices for poor quality output sure doesn't make sense.

In the end, you don't hear EA execs talking about how California isn't a suitable place to do work when they're talking where the execs are located!

Art work and a lot of programming will be moving to cheaper places, look at what MS did with PGR3, PGR4 and Forza 2 and 3. That's just the way it is. Perhaps if EA is lucky they can get the Canadian government to pay for their development like Ubi gets and Dyack got.

Riccitiello should be a bit more careful with his words. He says California is too expensive and "the UK" is cheaper. That's only true if you compare the expensive parts of California and the cheap parts of the UK. Try locating your UK studio near Central London and see how it stacks up in price. Now try moving some of your California development out of San Francisco to Sacramento and see how it stacks up in price again.

For some reason, Riccitiello wants to price match SF (one of the top cities in the world to live in) against Guildford.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:52PM Jimmyjames said

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That's bullshit, and on top of it all what a stupid thing to say. OK, I agree it's expensive to do business here, but if thats the only reason he shut Pandemic down, my name is Mickey Mouse.

Why didn't they move the studio or offer transfers then?

And if what he says is true, there's probably a lot of people at both EARS and EALA that are polishing up their resume about now.

Guarantee, Richy-tello will be asked to step down as CEO within 2 years. Has anyone been keeping track of the stock prices lately? Down, down, down.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 4:56PM (Unverified) said

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Yet more people want nothing to do with California because of its economy and standard of living. And then NY and Michigan are having the same problems...meanwhile, all of the idiots running these states think that they need to tax the remaining people there even more to make up for it.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:01PM (Unverified) said

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Exactly. They asked for the mess, and now they've got one.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:04PM spin cycle said

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California is taking less money per $100 of income in the state this year than the median take in the last 42 years.

http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/pdf/BudgetSummary/BS_SCH2.pdf

i.e.: California isn't increasing taxation as much as you think, if at all.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:21PM Shagittarius said

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Don't worry they are calling in a "State of Emergency" vote in order to pass new taxes. When they say its a state of emergency vote then it only needs a regular majority to pass rather than the 2/3rds normally required.

There are at least 60% retards in Cali so expect to pay even more taxes than are listed in your .gov report.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:43PM spin cycle said

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Shagittarius:
Your view of this situation is beyond simplistic. There's much easier ways to add taxes than to declare a state of emergency (which doesn't even work the way you say anyway, it merely allows the Governor to cut spending he otherwise couldn't cut), for example the "eWaste" fee is a tax, it's $8 you pay when you buy a TV and you don't get anything for it and you don't get it back when you get rid of the TV.

You've got the talking points mastered but no real understanding.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:44PM LaughingTarget said

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The reason Cali is taking in less than ever per capita is because people who produce wealth are leaving. Taxes have gone up, but all that's left to tax are Hollywood holdouts and welfare recipients. When the tax base is poor, raising taxes can still generate lower revenues.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 5:55PM spin cycle said

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LaughingTarget:
Work on your reading comprehension.

It's less tax collected per $100 earned in personal income within that state than at other recent times. So if these money makers you speak of left the state as you say, it would make the problem worse.

Maybe you could work out another explanation? Feel free to still base it upon generalized hatred but try to work some actual reasons that make sense this time.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2009 6:00PM LaughingTarget said

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My reading comprehension is fine. California has a "progressive" income tax structure. This means that lower income families pay a lower percentage of their salaries than higher income people do. Taxes on the first $100 generates $1 tax revenue while $100 past $1 million generates $10.30. Higher income people are leaving the state. With only lower income people to generate a revenue from a progressive system, what we have is a lower per $100 tax revenue.

Don't argue with the CPA when it comes to taxes.
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