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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:32PM Jerk Face said

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Bullshit.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:03PM bxgt said

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yea seriously, i just bought my htdv a month ago.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:04PM Jerk Face said

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Me too, compadré!
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:10PM VicViper said

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Jumping on the bandwagon too!

Unless, someone figures out some pseudo-way of making existing HD's 3D for a couple hundred bucks, or offers serious savings for trading in an HD for a 3D.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:22PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I'm pretty sure a lot of existing HDTVs can do 3d so long as they are at least 120hz. By this time next year 120hz TVs will be the minimum FPS hdtv you'll be able to purchase. They're alreading coming out with 240hz LED tv's left and right as we speak. I bought a 52 inch 60hz hdtv last year and it doesn't mean I can't still enjoy my games and movies just because it can't do 3d. It just means if you have a 120 or 240hz tv you'll be able to do some form of 3d and regular high def 2d that you get now. It doesn't make your new tv obsolete all of a sudden. It just cant do 3d. They are also making tvs with built in computers now but just because your new one cant do that doesn't mean it all of a sudden obsolete. I bet the 40 MIL number is a fairly conservative estimate. I'd expect more than that to have a 3d capable tv in their household in the next 4 years.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:24PM Yousty said

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Actually, a lot of the TVs being sold today are already 3D compatible. You'd be surprised to find out how many have the "3D Sync" port on the back. Hell, the one I bought two years ago had it.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:37PM Shagittarius said

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Those 120 or 240 hz TVs are really only 60hz. They only duplicate frames from their image processor in order to claim to do that frequency. So no, LCD tvs that are 120 or 240 hz that are not specifically designed for 3d use will never work with 3d tech.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 5:39PM mattimus said

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Does anyone really care about the obnoxious gimmick known as 3D?
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 6:20PM phinn said

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Yea this is the dumbest shit I've ever read. It might be 'neat' for gaming or watching something alone to check it out. But I would never wanna sit around for a long period of time with stupid ass 3d glasses on watching TV. Dumbest idea ever.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 7:52PM Frosted Lemon said

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@Shag
Actually, that's because the sources are 60 frames per second, rather than 240 or 120. Also, more frames per second helps to alleviate motion blur.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 8:45PM RKN said

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Shagittarius, your exactly right, the 120hz is a marketing gimmick for HDTVs though 120hz computer monitors can do 3D. I feel sorry for all those that will be tricked by this blatant lie, I almost was. Its only right for you to assume right? Fucking marketing douchebags.

Just like many think the PS3 and 360 play games at 1080P native just because it says so on the back of the box when its 720P or below upscaled.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:33PM Deaths Hand said

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Yeah, and I'll be watching mine in a pair of space shoes.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:07PM eat it said

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HAHA!
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:38PM BananaBoat said

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I'm going to watch mine while I ride my hoverboard.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:46PM cbarrentos said

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you guys are ridiculous. i oughta use my ACME Disintegrating Ray Gun on you, while i sit comfortably in my flying car.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 12:34PM zenaxe said

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Anyone who has to go hunt down a pair of glasses every time they want to read something understands exactly why 3D TVs are a fail festival.

Trust me it sucks, royally.

Also, All the people who just bought into HDTV are not going to be willing to upgrade. I just bought a big expensive, 62" HDTV. It damn well better last ten years like the SD box it replaced.

So, 3D basically has to be backwards compatible with the existing format, and slowly merge in to the point where it is just built-in as an option you can turn off and on on any set you buy and then we'll see if people actually use it: see glasses comment above.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:34PM (Unverified) said

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I would rather go back to SD gaming than play on an expensive gimmick. To make it worse, you still have to wear glasses for it. All that just to get a pretty picture to pop off a screen. People are impressed way too easily nowadays.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:55PM RobS the 3rd said

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I know, god damn it HDTV's aren't even in half the homes yet, and they expect this thing to have 40 millions homes by 2014, are they high?
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:16PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I don't know man seeing 3d movies and games now-a-days is pretty amazing. I think (could be wrong) all you need is a 120hz television which practically all new HDTVs are today. You have to look to find a 60 HZ television as everyone is going to 240hz as it stands. I wouldn't even call it a gimmick ... its just awesome. If they can combine the 3d technology and the head tracking technology then it's going to be an entirely different story. That will seriously be like playing in a holographic environment. The glasses are just like a regular pair (not like the old blue and red ones) of sun or reading glasses. There is also 3d TV technology (full parallax) by hitachi in the works right now that doesn't even require glasses (http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/hitachi-exhibits-10-inch-glasses-free-3d-display/). Alioscopy showed a 40 inch glasses free 3d tv last year at CES as well (http://www.slashgear.com/alioscopy-demo-40-inch-3d-glasses-free-tv-1812123/) so it's on the horizon.

The way I see it is this: if you buy a new TV that can do 3d it's a bonus. Even if they put a 3d mode in games or on consoles it wouldn't take away from playing it in 2d. Personally, I am very interested in getting a 3d capable television within the next 4-5 years. We bought a new big screen last year (52 inch sharp aquos) and it's only a 60 hz tv so I won't be doing 3d on it anytime soon. But, when we purchase another new one when the 3d technology is more mainstream (by then all hdtvs sold will be 3d compatiable) I'll have the option to use it. Options aren't a bad thing and it just makes your console and tv more versatile.

I love watching movies in 3d when they are available because it really adds so much to the experience. It makes sense because we live in a 3d world and seeing moving images as a flat picture without perspective is counter intuitive to the way we process the world around us.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 7:48PM ThePope said

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3D actually looks really good when done properly, I take it you haven't seen it done on the big screen.
And how do you suggest it would work without the glasses? Damn you science! You haven't even invented hoverboards yet!
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:41PM Harrison said

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Yeah yeah yeah, they said the same thing about flying cars. Where's my flying George Jetson car?
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 5:05PM whookid said

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Why its right here in the showroom! Delivery times vary from 1 day to 50 years.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:54PM vidguy said

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I would be surprised if we reached that number by 2025. We all know that the best technology doesn't always win at market, and there aren't that many early adopters willing to shell out the cash above and beyond HDTV.

Actually, I see the first wave of 3D-TV as a complete market bust. It won't catch on in the mainstream for a long time.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 7:55AM JRMG said

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3d has been around since the 1950's and it still hasn't caught on. I remember about 10 years ago ABC did their TGIF show lineup all in 3d for a ratings boost.

50 years on, and people still use 3d as a novelty feature, nothing more. 3d marketers have to overcome that public perception that 3d is not those ugly red-blue glasses people used to watch 2nd rate zombie movies.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:55PM Shagittarius said

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I wish this were true as 3d gaming is truely amazing. However this will not be the case, We're gonna be in the middle of a depression/stagnession for the next 10 years and old tech is gonna be enough for everyone.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:55PM ilunc said

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I am gonna be flying my space car while watching my 3D T.V. listening to the radio through the radio implanted in my ear.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:55PM arkweld said

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and only 2% of them will be watching anything in 3D.

You know, just like the majority of regular people can't even tell if what they are watching on their HDTV is actually high definition.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 5:26PM Discotheque said

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So what? Judging by the morons posting here we probably shouldn't have had High-def films either since it would "never take off" years ago.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 6:02PM (Unverified) said

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I am not going to get into this until they can do it without glasses.

No one in there right mind is going to put on a pair of glasses to play games or watch tv.

Its just retarded that they think they are going to sell that many!
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 6:22PM arkweld said

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I put my glasses on just to play games all the time.

It makes seeing that much easier!
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 7:01PM Railgun said

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If the majority of people can't tell if they're watching HD or not, then they have never watched HD before.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:56PM (Unverified) said

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I don't see what everybody's problem with 3D is. If you'd ever seen any of the new Pixar/Disney/Sony films then you'd change your mind. I know it's going to be expensive, but after a couple of years they'll drop in price just like HD TVs did.
I for one am looking forward to getting myself a 3D TV, and start gaming on it.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:59PM Discotheque said

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I think Avatar literally wrecks all the other 3D entrys at the moment. After seeing the 3D trailer I was completely sold.

Hate on him all you want, the man's usually ahead of the curve. Jurassic Park ended up using his effects after Terminator 2 for example.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:08PM (Unverified) said

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I saw "Up" in 3D. I did not have a choice, as the theatre did not tell anyone before you bough the (expensive) ticket that it was in 3D. It was not anything special, but it did give me a headache, and the glasses I had to wear were too small for my gigantic head.

It's a fad. It was a fad in the '70s. And it's a fad now.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:16PM TRTX said

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As one user pointed out, 3D glasses are a pain in the ass for anybody with ACTUAL glasses. Not to mention that it's being forced upon people more and more.

Would I like to see Avatar? Sure. Do I want to pay $2-3 more on top of an already $8-9 ticket because I have no choice? Hell no.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:21PM (Unverified) said

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Well tickets for the cinema aren't too expensive over here, so I was happy to pay to pay to see some films in 3D. Personally I thought it made the film so much better, but I guess some people just aren't accustomed to it.

as far as it being a fad, it just depends on what you call a fad. Fads are usually extremely successful for a very short period of time, but 3D has been consistently successful.

Oh well I don't really care, as long as I get to enjoy my 3D stuff in peace I'll be happy.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 5:24PM Discotheque said

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I don't think it's a fad since theaters around the world are constantly expanding by adding this format in. It's here to stay now, like it or not. And you still have the choice of watching the films in 2D or 3D.

And Avatar just screened to press and critics. Judging by the reactions so far....it's worthy of the hype. I'm a sucker for event films. Been waiting for one since LOTR.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 5:29PM Duke said

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I agree with "It's a fad. It was a fad in the '70s. And it's a fad now." I don't recall 3D being consistently successful - its used in niche films and not that widely. Sure the occasional horror movie or pixar flick, but it has not become ubiquitous in films. The last 3D film I remember being excited for was Jaws 3D....yup, 1983.

Also, in the home, I don't see this popular until glasses are no longer needed. If I walk into a room to talk to my wife or take a break from something for a minute, I don't think I want to stop and grab glasses first so I too can look at the screen. They wouldn't be a big pain when sitting for extended periods - but otherwise would be a real annoyance. In essence, I don't like the idea of having to commit to tv time.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:56PM iamnotafish said

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I don't want to bash the technology until I've seen it, but with 40+" TV's being the de facto standard now, I'd think most people have a home theatre set up already. I don't think Blu Ray has that level of adoption much less some new unproven technology that needs all need hardware to work.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:03PM (Unverified) said

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10 years ago, I had my nice 24" Trinitron set up with my stereo speakers attached and my PS2, I thought my Home Theatre setup was awesome.
Now I have a 40" Sony 1080p TV with 5.1 surround and a PS3, and I think that's awesome, and it cost me about the same price.
And in 5-10 years or so I'm sure I'll be happy to get a 3D TV with 10.1 surround or whatever's going at the time.
Times change, nobody's going to keep the same setup forever :-)
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 6:25PM arkweld said

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owning a HDTV doesn't mean you own a HT surround system.

Two entirely different components that require different levels of understanding and space requirements.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:56PM (Unverified) said

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Seriously, this is BS. Until the tech comes that doesn't require the use of special glasses, 3D isn't going to be an everyday thing.

...now Smell-a-vision, on the other hand, that's the future.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:09PM Mazrael said

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there's a porn market for that
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:23PM Uncle Jesse said

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3D, Smell-O-Vision pornography?

God help us all...
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:57PM SitriStahl said

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and in 2015 mattel is going to be making hover boards, i'll be first in line to get the pink one
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:47PM Bubbameister33 said

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Those boards don't work on water! You need POWAAAA!!!!
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:51PM SitriStahl said

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that's why my friend gets a giant board with a rocket engine, and a bat that can expand, i can ride on the back of it
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:57PM Puertoricarious said

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"MCV reports that the $5,000 study's results are based on the statistical outperformance of 3D film over 2D equivalents, as well as 'extensive testing of the first generation of 3D games.'......'We spoke directly with gamers, game developers, and game publishers ... to build a complete picture of the future of gaming....' "


WOW are you kidding me!??? that's the worst basis for a "study" i've ever heard. that's like me determining how many people will attend church in 2015 by interviewing pastors, consulting with the pope, and praying. this is completely and utterly bogus. it has no statistical merit whatsoever, and is probably just a paid advertisement from a company looking to sell more 3D televisions.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 3:59PM RobS the 3rd said

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Couldn't agree more, this is setting themselves up for a big disappointment once most people don't give a crap about this.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2009 4:00PM (Unverified) said

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Sorry for a second post, but I just thought of something else....

What about motion sickness - especialy in FPSs. Half-Life 2 already makes me queezy (supposedly this is a field-of-view issue, which is 75 degrees in HL2, while most other games are 90 degrees, but I digress...) So what's going to happen when you make that same game 3D - I'm guessing 20% of people will be gaming with a bucket close by.

For vomiting.
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