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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:17PM Emil K said

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HOLY ACHIEVEMENTS!!!!
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:45PM PlatinumSkeet said

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Does anyone see some irony here?


An educational software dev named "left behind games" makes a bible game.


lol classic
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:54PM CubeGuy said

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@Platinum_Skeet

Left Behind was a book series revolving around the second coming of Jesus. No irony there.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:55PM (Unverified) said

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Actually Left Behind is a christian book series about the "rapture" and end times, so it does make sense.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:57PM PlatinumSkeet said

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Why did you guys have to ruin my fun.... -_-
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 2:00PM (Unverified) said

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No need to explain the joke. People will get it eventually.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 5:23PM DaFreak said

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Dear, Michael Atkinson

Group 1
Should you ban driving a car because 1 to 2% causes deadly accidents?
Should you ban mobile phones because 1 to 2% causes distractions which leads to deadly accidents?
Should you ban hammers because 1 to 2% uses it to kill people with?
Should you ban bunnies because 1 to 2 % causes disease?

Group 2
should you ban books because 1 to 2 % causes someone to kill somebody?
Should you ban movies because 1 to 2 % causes people to murder somebody?
Should you ban music because 1 to 2 % of listeners decides to kill people?
Should you ban games because 1 to 2 % of gamers are murderers?

Group 3
Should you ban abusive dads because 1 to 2% of their generated offspring become murderers?
Should you ban rapists because 1 to 2% of their victims kills themselves?
Should you ban extremist preachers that call for hate because 1 to2% goes on a killing spree?
Should you ban pollution because 1 to 2% dies of cancer?

I hope you can see the differences. Cars and their drivers have been proven to kill people accidentally and in some cases even deliberately. Do you think we should ban cars? Now it gets even weirder because it has never even been proven that the media causes 1 to 2% of it's users to kill people. Yet you choose to ban it anyway? Wouldn't it make more sense to ban things of which it has been proven that 1 to 2% causes deaths instead of banning and censoring the media of which you think causes deaths? Note: Don't ban any of these.

It has never been proven that games are the cause of murder nor will that ever happen. If that was the case all gamers would be murderers. People that kill somebody have mental problems. These people that have a tendency for murder are more likely to play violent games. Perhaps you should focus on addressing their mental problems instead of dealing with one of their symptoms. In other words you got it backwards. Games don't make murderers. Murderers like every other person between 5 and 40 play games.

In some parts of Africa murder rates are much higher and they don't play any games at all!

1 to 2% of the air breathing population kills people. Perhaps this air makes them murderers? Do you see what i did here? You look at a group that does a certain thing and because a small part of that group does something you don't like you ban the thing that the entire group does even without any proof of the link between the two. You can not ban air, what will you do now?
1 to 2 % of gamers might be suicidal, or have a thing for fluffy bunnies, a tendency to hate vegetables, a liking for chocolate, ... Do you think this is because they play games?

If everybody plays games... Isn't it normal then that there are murderers amongst them? If that wouldn't be the case, gaming would actually be the cure for murderers.

So far group 1 and 2, onto group 3
The only things worth banning are those without any positive effects. Why is it okay to ban abusive dads, rapists, extremists, pollution,... and not games? because games are enjoyed by the pretty much everyone and nobody likes abusive dads, rapists, extremists or pollution.

Conclusion: Groups 1 and 2 shouldn't be banned because they are useful and enjoyed by everyone. The last group should be banned because nobody wants those.

You are not allowed to choose how your population spends it's time. As long as they are not hurting anyone you have to grant them their freedom to choose. In your country's history, many men gave their lives protecting this freedom for the entire world. Don't dishonor their name by now undoing what they worked for.

I hope you can now see that what you are doing is wrong. You should not be afraid to change your stance. In fact people will applaud you for it. You will score with your electorate because most of them actually play games and would love to keep playing them.

Friendly greetings from [insert country], [insert name]

> croydon@parliament.sa.gov.au < Go Go Go ^^
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 5:30PM DaFreak said

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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 8:50PM shadowj0 said

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@ DaFreak

Nonetheless, a great counter-argument.

*stands up and claps*

*the rest of the crowd also stands and claps*
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:18PM TehAsher said

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Best. Achievement. Ever.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 10:51PM Exar said

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"Achievement unlocked : 1000G Jesus Found"

*Xbox asplodes*

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Posted: Dec 12th 2009 7:46AM Unvrfd said

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They should actually put it in the game. EVERYBODY will get it then to boost their gamerscore.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:19PM latin trident said

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Sweet! Now I have to convince my pastor to buy an xbox 360 to connect to the projector at the church! when the congregation leaves... oohhh yeahhhh!
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:20PM ilunc said

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lol that would be funny
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:20PM latin trident said

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I found Jesus several years ago as a child. My achievement reward was not 1000G, it was Salvation!
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:36PM Jamp said

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I found Jesus, but I forgot him next to my keys when I left.

Damn it. Like, literally.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 2:44PM Phoenix654 said

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I've MET Jesus and he's a cool dude. He wears sunglasses, a leather jacket and is a kick as poker player. Even signed a playing card for me. Ahh, Las Vegas is a magical town...

Good for you Left Behind, using the Bible as it was meant to be used: To teach lessons about morality and being a good person and... oh... oh they're teaching math and spelling. Well, Nebuchadnezzar is damn hard to spell I guess. AND "reasoning skills?!" Really? With the Bible? Isn't faith supposed to be belief without proof? How can "reasoning skills" keep people coming to a building to compare clothing once a week?!

Oh well. It's your religion, I'm just openly mocking it.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2009 7:46AM Unvrfd said

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I've played Quake 3 in a church before. They had their projector connected to a PC.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:20PM Granger said

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Reasoning Skills Lesson 01: If someone disagrees with you, politely ask god to smite them where they stand.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:22PM BrianH said

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And god said " LET THERE BE LIVE"

hehe, i thought it was a good one.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:22PM nd15c said

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That last line was perhaps the most perfect, clever thing written. Ever. Well done, sir.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:30PM McBrick said

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As opposed to Xbox 360 users, who are clearly already in hell.

Or maybe that's just the CPU; it's hot in there, man.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 3:33PM Sam406 said

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It was a joke, keep your leash on fanboy.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:25PM cylet said

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thats a lot of gamerscore
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:25PM Kadamon said

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They'll give out achivements for almost anything these days...

(I kid I kid)
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:26PM (Unverified) said

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This is fanboy fuel for sure.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 3:03PM bigjf said

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Fanboy religious fundamentalist fuel?
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 4:25PM Dale P said

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Religious fanboys?

muhammed sux jesus ftw!!!!!
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:27PM (Unverified) said

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Reminds me of that stupid RTS where the rapture happened and "sinners" were stuck on Earth while those who believe in Christianity were "saved."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind:_Eternal_Forces

Most offensive, ignorant, yet hilarious demo I've ever played.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:29PM nd15c said

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I'm a 100% committed disciple of Jesus Christ, and even I thought that game demo was world class stupid.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:28PM n2whyteguyz said

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I'd have thought Left Behind would have developed something much more intense, at least on par with Spiritual Warfare for the NES http://www.encyclopedia-obscura.com/gamessw.html
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:33PM (Unverified) said

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Are we going to see remakes of Bible Buffet, Super Noah's Ark 3D, and the like?
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:37PM Granger said

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Noah's Ark, requires 2009's Wolfenstein installed on your Xbox 360 HDD to play.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:44PM iamnotafish said

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Super Noah's Ark could be a pretty fun Sim City type game. Having to create a virtual ark, keeping the residents happy and manage resources? That could be fun.

Alternatively, set it in space, call the leader Captain Noah, have the spaceship named Ark 001, and give it the ability to fire lasers at space pirates that occasionally raid your metropolis .... I think I'm onto something here ...
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 2:33PM HTCEVO said

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Why the hell are you using the Sega Saturn symbol as your avatar? Please, please don't disgrace it and me, by using it.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 3:40PM Kaminaaa said

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Stfu Orion. What has Darth ever done to you? Dumbass.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:33PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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I remember the old "Christian" oriented games from NES days.... like "King of Kings", "Bible Adventures", "Spiritual Warfare" all done by the now Defunct Wisdom Tree Games
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:41PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:44PM Erluti said

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I honestly read the headline hoping that those games were coming to XBLA.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 2:23PM (Unverified) said

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Wow, 'King of Kings' and 'Spiritual Warfare' were pretty fun to me as a kid. I had the hardest time beating them, but they provided a lot of entertainment. My favorite one ever made was 'Joshua' for the Genesis. It was an awesome puzzle type game.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:35PM Warlock said

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For a second I thought this was the NES Bible Adventures coming to Virtual Console :P
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 2:21PM (Unverified) said

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@ den-69:

I would call them high school biology teachers.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 10:57PM greenmonkie said

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Me too! I was actually slightly disappointed when I realized I wasn't going to be spending hours trying to catch those stupid ****ing birds to put them in the ark. Too bad it was an unlicensed game that will probably never be on the VC.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:36PM dogmaticatheist said

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Haha! "Reasoning skills" in a Bible game. That's rich. Reason and the Bible have about as much to do with each other as Catholic priests and women.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 1:54PM MrAlex said

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To be fair, atheists can be just as forceful and closed minded with their views as the religious
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 2:14PM den69 said

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How many atheists do u see preaching to you on tv?
Putting pamphlets through your door?
Singing stupid songs on their own radio stations?
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 2:17PM dogmaticatheist said

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Anyone can be forceful and closed minded about their views, what's your point?
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 2:18PM (Unverified) said

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Your right Den, I don't see them do jack shit.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 2:22PM nd15c said

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But sometimes I do see them putting angry posts online. In fact, I just saw some very, very recently...
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Posted: Dec 11th 2009 2:31PM (Unverified) said

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Atheists being forceful with their views?

lol

Nope, no one is saying become an Atheist, they are just pointing out the flaws of religion.

Nice try though.
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