Team Fortress 2 update gives Demoman 'Close Combat Kit'

O, they're goint to have to glue you back together... IN HELL!

Yeah I remember reading that article. There were a lot of crazy warriors in there. Are you sure he was a Scot though?

There was also this crazy sniper who they called "White Death" or something like that.

http://www.cracked.com/article_17019_5-real-life-soldiers-who-make-rambo-look-like-pussy.html

Yep, he was British. But with the spirit of Wallace himself.

God damn it Disco, don't you read?

"Churchill's basically a crazier, Scottish version of Kilgore."

You have been served.

Fuck my reading comprehension. I have two finals tomorrow, cramming for 'em. And I'm spending my time on teh internets.

I admit my defeat and shall leave swiftly.

Get a new avatar picture and stop reading Twilight.

Disco, hand in your nerd card now. Twilight is the epitome of 'not cool'.

Awesome read, thanks CH3BURASHKA.

"Twilight is the epitome of 'not cool' "

but the movies will get you laid ....... I love twilight. T_*

http://www.amazingben.com/arf0143.html

Jack Churchill was English, kindly fuck off with your misinformation. Thanks.

"...and learning to play the bagpipes despite the fact that he was about as Scottish as Shaka Zulu."

From the site I linked which is a lot more historically accurate than "Cracked.com". He was from Hong Kong according to many other sources with English parents.

This may surprise you, but Scotland isn't England. Oops, Disco-whatever was right. Take your "defeat" back.

now fellas let's not judge too harshly. We can't see his pick after all, and maybe by Team Edward he means Team Edward James Olmos!

You have my sword!

And my Axe!

Look at the four of you.

It's cute.

*pinches cheeks*

Samwise: And my po-ta-toes!

boil em mash em stick em in a stew

FOR SCOTCH!

Haha you beat me to it.

Cue epic Braveheart music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqnDe0bnZMI&feature=related#movie_player

Demoman for life.

Alright! Time to clean my dice (no homo), dust the character sheets, and get a table! Now, should I give my Heavy Intelligence or Wisdom? If I go INT I can speak Medic and give a bonus to my saving throws.

I hope they give him the ability to fire fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.

damn, reply fail. meant for the braveheart reference above.

the next udpate adds three more races !!

fuck, meant to be a reply to CH3BURASHKA

Hey! Stop looking at inappropriate sites at school, do your homework and respect your elders!

Kids these days...

One word. Microsoft.

That isn't a valid excuse, they charged me for the L4D dlc and seemed to get over it. It's obvious principle has nothing to do with it.

@Rhamsey: There's no overlord on PC so Valve can release free content. Microsoft is the overlord of 360Land, so they get to decide whether or not they release the content free or not. I assure you MS was the one enthusiastic about charging for the dee-el-see.

CH3BURASHKA, I think you missed what I was trying to say. I know that it was more likely than not MS who made the L4D dlc cost money, and I'm ok with that, but what I'm not ok with is people blaming microsoft for making Valve charge for dlc, then them using it as an excuse as to why Valve didn't give dlc for the game. I'm ok with paying for the dlc (especially for TF2), I just want the choice to buy or not to buy it.

No single entity owning the PC is one of its great strengths and yet also one of its greatest weaknesses.

Lawls, I thought we was talkin' aboot moneys. Your perspective is understandable, but honestly, get them both for the PC: it's better that way.

how many times does it need to be said, they are waiting till all classes are updates, so stop asking already

It's difficult to add so much extra stuff into the core game on a console since it's a closed system unlike the PC where you can just add RAM yourself (80% of Steam users have 2GB or more of RAM). Valve got very close to that small 512MB limit already with vanilla TF2 on the 360. They said that they made some memory optimizations, but they've had three major updates since they made that announcement, so they're likely over the limit again.

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2394

Riddle me this, as a multiplayer game, if a person who didn’t buy the DLC plays on the same map as a person who did… would the person who did buy the DLC be able to use their bought weapons? As the person who didn’t buy the DLC doesn’t have the code to even see said weapon, let alone its stats, how would it work on them?

It would be like a vanilla server on the PC; people have the unlocked weapons, but can’t use them because the server doesn’t support it. So what good would the DLC be?
They’d have to split up the community into the DLC buyers, and non-buyers; and considering the updates are going out pretty much one class at a time this isn’t feasible right now because you’d have so many groups of people with certain sets of DLC, and they can only play with people who bought the exact same sets as them.

Once all the updates are released it can all go out together so Valve will only have to worry about two camps: the people who bought it, and the people who didn’t.


tl;dr: If you didn't read this, why the hell would you reply?

@Rawmander.

There is a difference between TF2 upgraded weapons and say, MW2 upgraded weapons. TF2 weapons are :"sidegrades" in that even when one team has all the upgraded weapons and the other has only stock weapons, the game is still balanced. There are plenty of people who still don't have new weapons on the pc version but have no problem with the balance of the game Because of this, DLC weapons would NOT upset the balance of the game or divide the community.

Another thing to consider about why they aren't updating the 360 version. The 360 version has had poor community support from the get-go, and a lot less people play the game on 360 than the PC. So while it would be nice to support the community is there, there's a large investment to satisfy very few people, which is a hard thing to justify. You also have to consider that every time Valve updates TF2, sales skyrocket for a short period of time. If they did update the 360 version, it's doubtful they'd see a sales increase at all. Add in the fact that they're already pushing the engines efficiency on the 360, and microsoft certification for everything, and it's pretty clear that it's a large project for Valve to bring these updates to the PC with not a lot of return. It would be awesome if they could do it, but I doubt it's gonna happen.

wow, that second to last sentence should read valve to bring these updates to the 360, not pc.

@Zappa

I wasn't referring to the problem with balance, as you said, there wouldn't be one.
What I'm referring to is people who buy the DLC won't be able to play with people who did.

Its like buying an expansion, a person who owns Diablo 2, and only Diablo 2, cannot play with someone who made a LoD character. Same deal with these DLC options a person who bought the Pyro update won't be able to use those weapons whith someone who didn't.
Splitting up the community that much is just not an option; best course of action is to wait till all the updates are complete and sell it as one package, then you'd only have the same problem D2 and LoD has. A community split in two, rather then a community split in (9!). (Cause there's many combinations of the 9 DLC.)

@ Zappa

Don't you think if they kept supporting the 360 then they would actually have a fan base there and people would still play it to this day?