We think the redesigned PS3 is small enough. However, Sony's Japanese designers, in their continuing desire to shrink things, noted that the PS3 Slim "could have been made even smaller."
Sony's executive VP of technology Masayuki Chatani spoke with Japanese newspaper Nikkei about the challenges of designing a slimmer PS3. The goal was not only to cut costs, but to expand its attractiveness to "an even wider range of users." Considering the Japanese penchant for small electronics, the original PS3's girth was certainly a limiting factor.
However, certain sacrifices would have been necessary for Sony to pursue an even smaller box. One option was to place "the power supply on the outside," much like Microsoft's Xbox 360 power brick. Taking yet another page from Microsoft, an even more drastic option considered was to remove the hard drive altogether. The alternatives -- Flash memory or virtual network storage -- proved to be too expensive, and too unreliable. Ultimately, the Sony team chose function over form. "One of the best features of the PS3 is that people can download games to the internal local storage unit and play comfortably." That reminds us -- we need a bigger couch.
[Via IGN]
Reader Comments (86)
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:07PM (Unverified) said
'The goal was not only to cut costs, but to expand its attractiveness'
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 2:09PM (Unverified) said
You know, for being a self-labled troll you don't troll very often.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 5:14PM ch3burashka said
Had they gone through with it, the final product would've been the PS3 Slim Go. It would've been missing a Blu-ray drive and would've cost the original 600 buckaroos.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:31PM Ballistic H said
For real. I regret selling my first gen PS2 for the first PS2 Slim after I noticed the power brick.
Microsoft had to put the Xbox 360 power supply outside because of the overheating issue they knew. Think of the number of RROD it would have if the power supply was internal.
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Microsoft had to put the Xbox 360 power supply outside because of the overheating issue they knew. Think of the number of RROD it would have if the power supply was internal.
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:45PM mywhitenoise said
I'm not. Anyone with half a brain can hide a power supply. If that means a quieter, smaller, and cooler (as in heat) console, then I'd rather take the external supply. I wish Sony would have taken that route.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:58PM DudemanJones said
They've done this with every slim revision they've made so far, why buck the trend?
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 3:36PM Puertoricarious said
quiter, smaller, and cooler? even with the brick outside my xbox still sounds like an industrial fan, and my xbox still heats up way more than it should.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:08PM (Unverified) said
i am ok with the new design but i want to see the design they want too
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:09PM (Unverified) said
Hey, there's no way it would have been any larger than that gigantic 360 brick.
Right?
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Right?
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:56PM Killface was here said
I'll have you know that I defended my house with a 360 power brick! I swung it as if it were a mace and knocked a henchman unconcious!
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 2:32PM Katana Master said
@ Dr. Orpheus
That sounds lethal, I guess I should use mines whenever the need arises. Thanks for the tip.
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That sounds lethal, I guess I should use mines whenever the need arises. Thanks for the tip.
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 6:03PM Istari Spartan said
Hey, rather a large unsightly power supply I can hide,
than a large unsightly console I cant.
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than a large unsightly console I cant.
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 6:22PM (Unverified) said
You could all have a Sega Genesis/CD/32X combo unit. Then you've got a huge console and THREE power bricks.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:09PM Uncle Jesse said
So Cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that!
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Well I ain't down with that!
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:09PM incoming00 said
i dont see why they didnt make the power supply on the outside... didnt the PS2 slim have a (much smaller) power brick like the 360?
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:29PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
@anthology....because it LITERALLY IS A FUCKING BRICK....
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:33PM Ballistic H said
@ Anthology: It's FUGLY. Don't know about you but when something's ugly, I don't like.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 2:34PM Katana Master said
@ Chris
It is actually bigger and heaver than the standard brick made for houses.
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It is actually bigger and heaver than the standard brick made for houses.
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 9:42PM killdash9 said
The first PS2 slim (there have been 2 cosmetic revisions of the slim PS2, if you were not aware) had an external power supply, but the second has it internal, like the PS3. As my PS2 is a first-type slim, I actually did not know that the fat models had the power supply internal.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:22PM Gun Barrier said
I think they meant the reliability of network storage.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:31PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
yea my guess is they were talking about the reliability of network storage as well....my guess is we will see that as an option feature on the PS4....which I would openly welcome since I will most likely have a 20TB home server by then....
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:39PM Ballistic H said
Totally bad idea: the rise of ISPs putting bandwidth cap limit and charging fees when you go over the limit, when your internet connection goes down and you can't retrieve your save game, and not everyone has the same internet speed (hey I got 3 people in my family sucking the internet speed like crazy in the same house and each one yells at the other one to stop downloading so they can download at a reasonable speed).
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:42PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
uhh i took network storage to mean IN Home network....as for Cloud services....well we already know thats in the works....but I doubt they would use it to store games for playback from the cloud if anything they will just use it to backup save data for you that can be downloaded to any PS3 to the original owner
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:21PM Gun Barrier said
Maybe for the third redesign they can take out the power brick, blu-ray drive, card slots, and the HDD. They could call it the PS3Go.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:23PM SmilinGoat said
i can understand wanting to make it even smaller, its still pretty big. the only thing listed that i think would have been worth it is an external power supply. SSD? youve got to be kidding me, sony isnt that stupid.
also external power supplies dont suck, god they sit on the floor behind your TV. you never see them. some people are so unreasonable.
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also external power supplies dont suck, god they sit on the floor behind your TV. you never see them. some people are so unreasonable.
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:35PM (Unverified) said
The 360 power brick is the only one that's problematic, as it commonly overheated in the older models. Hell, I had mine start dying and had to shell out 40 for a new one.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2009 2:44PM arkweld said
Yes exactly, they sit on the floor behind your television.
And if you had half the equipment I do you would know that amongst the mass of video, audio, network and power cables and large surge protectors the last thing you want is a huge fucking brick sat in the middle of them all pumping out heat.
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And if you had half the equipment I do you would know that amongst the mass of video, audio, network and power cables and large surge protectors the last thing you want is a huge fucking brick sat in the middle of them all pumping out heat.
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 3:22PM SmilinGoat said
well i have:
WiFi router, iPhone dock, Plasma TV, PS3, HD cable receiver(comcast), Xbox360, Onkyo AV receiver supporting 7.1 to 5 devices) PS2 fat, and a Cable internet modem.
and you know what? the fact that its a bit of a mess (an organized chaos) there really is still plenty of room for 10-15 external power supplies.
oh also keep in mind that i do have the large surge protector.
the heat doesnt get out of control, and everything is hidden in the back.
it just gives people something to bitch about, so thats what they do.
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WiFi router, iPhone dock, Plasma TV, PS3, HD cable receiver(comcast), Xbox360, Onkyo AV receiver supporting 7.1 to 5 devices) PS2 fat, and a Cable internet modem.
and you know what? the fact that its a bit of a mess (an organized chaos) there really is still plenty of room for 10-15 external power supplies.
oh also keep in mind that i do have the large surge protector.
the heat doesnt get out of control, and everything is hidden in the back.
it just gives people something to bitch about, so thats what they do.
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 3:47PM arkweld said
I've got room for a car in the middle of my living room that doesn't mean I want one there.
I also don't want a mass of wires, transformers and power boxes behind my AV stand either. Not only does the 360 PSU pump out heat - which is a bad thing to go behind any collection of components that already pump out heat - it's also an RF interference generator, dust collector and contributes to an even bigger tangle of wires just by itself.
Every other component is designed well enough to incorporate it's own PSU. I don't see why bad engineering should be acceptable just because your equipment is thrown on a shelf with no regard for wire management.
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I also don't want a mass of wires, transformers and power boxes behind my AV stand either. Not only does the 360 PSU pump out heat - which is a bad thing to go behind any collection of components that already pump out heat - it's also an RF interference generator, dust collector and contributes to an even bigger tangle of wires just by itself.
Every other component is designed well enough to incorporate it's own PSU. I don't see why bad engineering should be acceptable just because your equipment is thrown on a shelf with no regard for wire management.
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 4:38PM SmilinGoat said
"just because your equipment is thrown on a shelf with no regard for wire management"
it sounds to me like your the one with the problem managing your wires/entertainment system, it should not be too difficult to figure out how to set up everything without causing over heating or a tangled mess. for instance if you dont want to put the power supply on top of the wires (where you apparently have a huge amount of heat) you might want to set it on the side of your entertainment system.or pull the entertainment system out 2-3 extra inches to allow better airflow.
to cut down on heat, if i may suggest, you could always turn off any electronics when not in use. for instance, if you are using your PS3, turn off your xbox360, Cable receiver, etc. and if you arnt using surround sound while you play, be sure you turn off your AV receiver as well, as those can create a great deal of heat.
i really hope this helps with your heating problems. i hope you can now enjoy a reasonable level of entertainment without the constant worry over all the heat your xbox power supply is creating.
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it sounds to me like your the one with the problem managing your wires/entertainment system, it should not be too difficult to figure out how to set up everything without causing over heating or a tangled mess. for instance if you dont want to put the power supply on top of the wires (where you apparently have a huge amount of heat) you might want to set it on the side of your entertainment system.or pull the entertainment system out 2-3 extra inches to allow better airflow.
to cut down on heat, if i may suggest, you could always turn off any electronics when not in use. for instance, if you are using your PS3, turn off your xbox360, Cable receiver, etc. and if you arnt using surround sound while you play, be sure you turn off your AV receiver as well, as those can create a great deal of heat.
i really hope this helps with your heating problems. i hope you can now enjoy a reasonable level of entertainment without the constant worry over all the heat your xbox power supply is creating.
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 6:35PM OnToGloryReturns said
What a stupid complaint about a power brick. I'm running a home theater with bi-amped towers plus 2 subwoofers and all the wires that go with that plus all my other stuff - which includes all 3 systems. My wiring is tight, neat and unobtrusive (and labeled). I've never gotten a smidge of rf interference or worried for a second about heat dispertion because I used my brain when I set it up.
The power brick just sits back there, I never see it, so who the hell cares.
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The power brick just sits back there, I never see it, so who the hell cares.
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:26PM holyice7 said
Is this like an "I could have had a V8!" moment for Japanese people?
And out of pure curiosity, how much trouble would it have been to put the power supply outside the console? Doesn't Sony manufacture those kinds of cords for laptops and whatnot already?
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And out of pure curiosity, how much trouble would it have been to put the power supply outside the console? Doesn't Sony manufacture those kinds of cords for laptops and whatnot already?
Posted: Dec 15th 2009 1:26PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
I hate my powerbrick -_-
You don't actually realise how much you hate something until you are faced with a better alternative, its like coping with analogue and then being given digital.
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You don't actually realise how much you hate something until you are faced with a better alternative, its like coping with analogue and then being given digital.
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