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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:25PM Coldplay619 said

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I was not impressed with the trailer for Undisputed 2010 but damn, I'm looking forward to this D:
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:35PM MystileArmor said

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They forgot to add Peter Moore to that list...
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:36PM angelkin said

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My knowledge of MMA doesn't extend much further than what goes on in the UFC, so I'm not really interested in playing a game where I don't know who the fighters are...

I guess that's my problem, but I also guess that's going to affect their sales all the same.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:42PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Thats part of the general problem with modern day MMA fans is they think that the UFC = MMA. But, they do have some big name guys in the game like Couture and Fedor that even casual MMA fans like yourself will recognize. It could be an issue which is another reason I think EA should get some of these retired fighters that I mentioned in my post into the game. Looks to me they are going for the hardcore crowd with this game. If the game is good I'll buy it because as good as Undispited was it still had some major flaws.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:43PM AsherR said

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Well, if you aren't familiar with Fedor Emelianenko, then you are doing a disservice to the world of MMA. The man is a monster and is also in this game, I do believe.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:39PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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This has basically evolved into Strikeforce MMA ... and thats not a bad thing. In terms of those guys going to the UFC: not likely. Dana is full of it anyway as he proved with resigning Couture to a long term deal after he agreed to be part of EA's MMA. Strikeforce has carved out their own niche and with the signings of Henderson and Fedor will only continue to gain more mainstream appeal. I'd still like them to include some retired fighters like Cabbage, Severn, Frye, Gracie, Ken Shamrock, Rutten, Kerr and all those older cage guys who aren't in the UFC anymore. I'd love to play as El Guapo!!!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:45PM AsherR said

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There is no way that Dana White wouldn't let Fedor into UFC if he wanted to be in it, even after this EA stuff. He'd have to be crazy.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:48PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Yeah thats what I was trying to say. After re-reading my comment I meant to say there is no way Dana wouldn't let these guys into the UFC if they wanted in and the Couture thing just reinforces his bluff and strongarm tactics.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 3:52PM AsherR said

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Yeah, I understood what you were trying to say. Sorry I should have said "Yeah, I agree." :P
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:44PM scfyi said

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Who wants to buy a game full of UFC retreads?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:56PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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You understand the UFC is a promotion and not a league right? That'd be like saying who wants don king or goldenboy retreads in a boxing game. Couldn't one also say that UFC is full of Pride FC retreads that no one cares for? Get over it man and love the sport not the promoters. Be a fan of the fighters not the suits.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 4:26PM AirIntake said

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Um, UFC is a league as much as any league is a league. What specifically defines a league that you think UFC doesn't do?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 4:56PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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The UFC is a fighting promotion not a league. Dana White is a promoter not a commissioner. The NFL is a league, the NBA is a league and MLB is a league. MMA doesn't have a league like boxing doesn't have leagues it has a series of promoters. The difference is that boxing promoters co-promote events to put on fights fans want to see (goosen tudor, goldenboy, top rank, don king etc) and the manny pacquiao vs floyd mayweather fight is an event co-promoted by two seperate promoters that each individually manage their fighters.

A league is an 'association' of sports teams that organizes matches for its members. There is no collective bargaining agreement between the fighters and management in the UFC in terms of compensation or liabbility coverage.

It's a pretty simple distinction actually. Some MMA promotions do co-promote (like dream and strikeforce) to put on fights from different promotions. But, it isn't a series of leagues it's a series of fight promotions and fight promoters. If there were an MMA league it would oversee all fighting promotions and that'll never ever happen on Dana's watch because it would mean giving up his authortarian control.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 5:24PM AirIntake said

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So..........was XFL a league or a promotion? I still don't think the distinction is very well defined. A league certainly doesn't have to oversee all of the promotional companies that deal in that sport. Sort of like how the NFL had no control over the XFL (or the CFL). And I don't think you need a collective bargaining agreement to be considered a league. From Wikipedia "League is a term commonly used to describe a group of sports teams or individual athletes that compete against each other in a specific sport. At its simplest, it may be a local group of amateur athletes who form teams among themselves and compete on weekends; at its most complex, it can be an international professional league making large amounts of money and involving dozens of teams and thousands of players." Under the basic definition of the word, UFC is a league.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 7:26PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Actually the UFC calls itself a promotion and it's what they are. A league has individual owners of said teams and has players association to bargain on behalf of it's members. A league would be the individual promotions fighting under one banner where fights would happen independent of promotion. As it stands all MMA and boxing is done through promoters and promotions not leagues. If the UFC and MMA in general wants to go mainstream there will eventually have to be minimum guaranteed compensation and fighters unions.

In the NFL you are employed by the team owner whose club is a member of a league. In MMA you are contracted with the promotion who isn't bound by collective barganing. Same thing with the defunct AFL though I've never really heard of xfl. But I think that's the one Vince mcmahon owned and there were unions, cba's and individual club owners which made it a league.

As far as know the IFL (intl fight league) is the only organization that tried that league concept. It was teams of fighters who would face off at certain events. Though I'm not familiar with their business structure to say either way.

Dana White will tell you he is a promoter because he doesn't want cba's, mandatory minimum compensation and the other things that go along with being a league. There is no UFC fighters association it's every man for himself and whatever their mgmt agrees with in negotiations.

Ufc is a promotion not a league the same way it is in boxing. There is no league championship or seasons it's a constant promotion. Dana would tell you the same thing.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 7:51PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I'm not big on Wikipedia but since you quoted it let's see what they say about the UFC:

"The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based MMA promotion. Dana White serves as the president of the UFC while Zuffa, LLC (controlled by Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta) owns the company.[2][3][4]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Fighting_Championship

Here is what they say about the IFL:
The International Fight League was an American mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion billed as the world's first MMA league. It was founded on January 7, 2006 and closed on July 31, 2008.[1] Instead of the established norm for MMA events, where matchups are strictly one-on-one affairs, each IFL card was a showdown between two camps of at least three fighters, each fighter fighting one match against another in the opposing camps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fight_League

This should give you an idea about what being a promoter entails:
http://ballardboxing.tripod.com/id44.html
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:46PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Nothing more homo erotic than two dudes trying to beat the hell out of each other or snap one anothers arms in half! totally gay. If you'd feel more comfortable maybe we get them to sanction wearing a lumberjack esque plaid flannel jackets and levi's 50 jeans to each fight. That way you wouldn't have to see their ... chest and legs. Maybe they can wear some Lugz boots as well because bare feet are totally gay.

On a more serious note you sure do live up to your handle an awful lot.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:47PM HardBoiled2009 said

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I would Consider this a sport right next to Boxing. i was a fan of wrestling when a kid cause of the stunts they did and i knew itr was fake but got repetitive years later so i stopped watching it .. but since i played UFC 2009 i watched a bit of it when i can and i think it's great i would love too see the Fights in person.

am i looking forward too 2010 ? not really will it be fun probably but i hope it plays the same and not a entirely different Experience. UFC 2009 is a good game the only thing i hate in that game is the fact that they made one of the trophies alot harder within a patch i have yet to get i'm very close to platinum that's the one thing i hated about it.


now as for this MMA game. i'm sorry but i think i'l stick too UFC as where this is where i am getting too know the fighters the back ground history to the fighters as well, as this MMA will include people from MMA i never heard of before and or won't be seeing on my TV anytime soon. doesn't mean it can't be good but i think i'l stay away from this MMA title.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:50PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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You should look into Strikeforce since they have some of the best fighters in the world and and their shows are not PPV and air on CBS and Showtime.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:59PM (Unverified) said

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in early 2010 Fedor is suppose to be fighting again on CBS. Dan Henderson is reportedly gonna be on the same card. If you are a fan of the UFC or Pride you should know who Dan Henderson is.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 7:50PM HardBoiled2009 said

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@Handlas

well i am becoming a Fan into UFC i just picked up watching it and i'm enjoying it so i have no idea who Dan Henderson is but i'm sure i'l know sometime soon,

@Johnnynumber5

strikeforce you say ... never heard of it .. don't get showtime here in Canada so i'l see if i can catch it on CBS
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 8:01PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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@Hardboiled

Let me give you a few resources since you are interested in MMA.

http://mmavideolinks.to/fighter-videos.html

This is a great site that indexes MMA fights by the fighters themselves. It is a great way to watch fighters you may of never seen before but have heard of like Dan Henderson or Fedor Emelianenko. I'd highly suggest bookmarking the site.

http://www.gowamma.com/ is a site that ranks fighters independent of their affiliation with a promotion or organization. It's a great way to see who the MMA journalist feel is the best fighter in each weight class. I'd not only suggest watching UFC events but also WEC (comes on versus network), Strikeforce (CBS & Showtime) and Dream & Sengoku (HDnet).

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/ is a blog (like this one about video games) dedicated to the sport of MMA. It will help you keep up with current events, different promotions and fighters. It's the holy grail of MMA blogs online.

Hope those are good resources!!!!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 9:07PM HardBoiled2009 said

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@ Johnnynumber5


Thanks For The Links ! taking a look at them now.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 3:09PM CleverNameGoesHere said

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HOLY FUCKIN SHIT YOU CAN BE JACARE.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 2:59PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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The GATOR! Maybe I can get revenge on Gegard for that upkick in the dream finals.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 5:26PM Katana Master said

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SHITS COOL RIGHT?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 3:06PM ALBGunner04 said

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Feeling a little insecure are we?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 3:08PM gamedude360 said

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also former wwe pro wrestler who is now with tna just signed a long term deal with strikeforce and will be part of tna when not doing mma fights

his first fight in in january i think
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Posted: Dec 17th 2009 12:09AM xFenixKnightx said

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Bobby Lashley is his name.
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Posted: Dec 17th 2009 1:38AM gamedude360 said

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ya i mean to type lashley, if did it so fast lol haha
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 3:20PM CleverNameGoesHere said

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Now 1/3 of my BJJ heroes are in a video game. If Marcelo and Leo Viera also made an appearance, I'd probably wet my kimono pants.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 3:45PM jynxycat said

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But, UFC got Kimbo Slice.

People will buy UFC2010 just to punch that ogre in the face!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 4:43PM L3gato said

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The only way I'll buy UFC again is if they change the gameplay(it's too much like their wrestling game). I cannot comment about the online portion of UFC however because I only played the Superstars that were available and did not create my own thus a lot of people using GSP in welter because he had the highest rating etc. FNR4 had a great online because everybody has the same rating whichever your style is. I'm hoping this is implemented in EA MMA as well.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 5:02PM Jamis7 said

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If guys they announced don’t sound like big names to you, then you’re not watching enough MMA. Some of the best fighters in the word fight outside of the UFC. All the guys listed there: Cung Le, Gilbert Melendez, Robbie Lawler, Ronaldo Souza, Matt Lindland, Scott Smith, and Josh Thomson have top 10 talent in their weight class. Well maybe not Scott Smith so much, but he has main evented an Elite XC show on CBS. If you don’t think there is talent outside of the UFC, just listen to UFC announcer Joe Rogan. He said during BJ Penn’s destruction of Diego Sanchez that UFC needs to sign Shinya Aoki the DREAM Lightweight champ because me might actually be able to give Penn a good fight unlike anyone the UFC has.

Also Strikeforce will be having more nationally televised shows on CBS in the coming year, which will make some of these fighters more well known and provide major exposure to this game. I just hope it can deliver. UFC Undisputed 2009 was the best MMA game ever, but it is far from perfect.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 6:15PM CleverNameGoesHere said

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Baka survivor! Baka survivor!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 5:25PM Katana Master said

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Imagine pulling a boner whilst in those underwear? Your cock would bloody hang out.

/Random Off Topic, Pointless Thought

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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 7:32PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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No it wouldn't because 1. You wear a cup and 2. You wouldn't get a boner. Pull your mind out of the gutter. lol.
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Posted: Dec 17th 2009 3:28PM Katana Master said

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Lol, think of a having a boner in a CUP!

Sorry for this childish act of stupidity. Too hard to resist. (I said hard, tee tee)
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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 6:00PM MmaFanQc said

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lmao..Teh Tr0LL, you seem to be insecure about your sexual orientation.

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Posted: Dec 16th 2009 11:16PM Martin C said

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This is off-topic, but still awesome for any MMA fans: http://mmatycoon.com

Just be sure to read through the help, as it is extremely detailed.
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Posted: Dec 17th 2009 8:54AM Tuxy79 said

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As a big UFC fan, I have no interest in any UFC game. I can say that EA's game looks way more impressive.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2009 4:40AM (Unverified) said

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Air intake: You should take your condescending ass back to your little world of Warcraft. It seems you know nothing about MMA or the definition of words such as "League" or "Promotion".
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