Warhammer Online begins 'reenlistment campaign' with incentives

It wasn't nearly as awful as you're crying about. Definitely not at launch. The best parts of the game were everything pre-lvl25ish. After that, the questing wasn't tuned correctly so leveling up became too difficult. Other city raid type events were pointless. etc. etc.

They actually did merge a lot of servers, retune a ton of things, and change lots of things that people complained about, on top of adding 2-3 new classes for free.



Just sayin'

I played it during beta and could barely stay logged in for more than 15mins at a time. I wasn't going to get it when it came out but my sister wanted me to get it with her so we could play it. Unfortunately she only played it for about a week and we never even got to group.

How nice is the box and books inside it? You can get the CE of WAR for like 15 bucks now and I'm considering getting it just for its aesthetics.

The game was bad though, I agree.

Pretty much everything after level 20 was half-finished, half-polished, and half-broken at the best of times. Quests that lead to dungeons, enemies, even whole zones which didn't exist yet, PvP that was entirely designed around zerging the opposition into submission, and a very limited selection of decent-looking gear. I mean, when your level 20 stuff looks way more badass than your level 30 stuff, and your level 40 stuff looks like level 10 stuff... Blargh.

Kickass, richly developed universe, but Mythic was in over their heads and under-financed. I'd rather wait for the next big thing than go back to something that left me feeling so disappointed with wasted potential.

To be fair, PvP zerging is more of a player fault than a game one. It tends to happen in most games from a severe lack of coordination. If you can actually get people into Vent, things change considerably.

And Mythic did redo class armor sets to be more impressive.

Just to clarify something... the Warcraft universe is actually based/inspired by/lovingly created as a homage to Warhammer. Not the other way around.

That is all.

More like Warcraft was a direct ripoff.

I'm not talking about the universe. I'm talking about gameplay.

So, what, you want an MMO without quests or class abilities? The idea that these are somehow unique to WoW and not simply functions of the genre baffles me.

If you want to call WAR generic because it has elves and dwarves, I think you're unfairly ignoring the distinctive elements like Chaos or the grim setting. And Blizzard did not invent half of what's in WoW, so calling any MMO a ripoff of that game is just plain wrong. You might as well call WoW a ripoff of Everquest, or Ultima Online.

As a longtime WoW player who has put maybe a month into WAR, the differences were immediately apparent:

In WoW, you have one PvE level bar and you can do PvP arenas/battlegrounds for Honor points, which get cashed in for PvP-centric rewards.

In WAR, the PvE experience is richer from public quests and Chapter/Tier influence progression; the main PvP experience is integrated right into the world with PvP lakes and city sieges; you're given a separate PvP level with its own set of purchasable abilities, killed players have their own loot tables, and there are new vendor rewards as you progress; the Tome of Knowledge provides a rich context to the gameworld and your gameplay; and Mythic hosts regular Live Events that are larger and more detailed than WoW's simple holiday boss farm.

WAR's faults, imo, lie entirely within the technical side of things. The game ran badly on my fairly good gaming PC last Christmas. However, trying it again this past Halloween for the Daemon Moon Rising live event, the performance was much improved. My only real sticking point is the way the game will cut framerate at a distance. The resulting herky-jerky movement of characters in the far distance is hard to ignore.