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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:35PM skyzbig said

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Pre Avatar = 3D? Pfft, who cares?

Post Avatar = 3D games, now!
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:46PM (Unverified) said

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That's how it works. Always takes one great implementation to make people fall in love with the technology.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 10:34PM Danthaman said

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Avatar's 3D is the definition of immersive. It pushes stuff AWAY from you instead of making things pop out at you. Instead of having things coming out of the screen, it made things look like they were beyond the screen, and that the screen was a hole in the wall allowing us to see it, like a stage. THAT is what makes things immersive, the illusion of depth. Gimmick 3D makes everything look flat while occasionally having something fly out at you, making it obvious that the makers were taking advantage of the 3D. Since avatar's #d makes it look like stuff is a distance away, a better "something flying toward the audience" illusion is made when something onsceen actually comes closer to it. Avatar never uses 3D "just becase it has it". It also takes care of the lighting problem by making a 3D showing brighter.

Avatar+3D= Win.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:37PM Sleeping Lesson said

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I like how the progression of video game graphics have gone from 2D to 3D to 3D-er.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:42PM (Unverified) said

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You forgot 2.5D...
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:42PM B3astofthe3ast said

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4D is in there somewhere with the PS3!
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 6:37PM I AM IRONHIDE said

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4D = Space, 5D = Time.

6D = Bitch Tit Mcgee.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 6:47PM Alphathon said

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@Awetoebawt: Since when is space a dimension?
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 7:25PM Kgg said

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@Awetoebawt 4D = Time, 5D is everything within the 4 first dimensions gathered to a point as far as i remember.
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 12:44AM (Unverified) said

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Then what the fuck is 1D? Sound?
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 2:26AM einhanderkiller said

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3D is three dimensions. X, Y, and Z.

2D is two dimensions. X and Y.

1D is one dimension. X.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:40PM Jae Brav said

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Until we have real holograms like you see in all those sci-fi movies we don't have 3d. We just have a perception trick. And the only way I would even play any of this stereoscopic or whatever it's called 3d is if they made contacts I could put in my eyes. The glasses look freaking stupid. And even more stupid when you wear them with the lights off. Cory Hart?
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:49PM Ricky Bango said

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Yeah! The only way I'M playing these so called "3D" games is if I have to put contact lenses on my eyeballs every time I want to play!
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:59PM Jae Brav said

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I was being sarcastic.Fucking a.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 6:43PM Alex R said

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A Perception Trick? Like Pepper's Ghost?
I'd quite like a Pepper's Ghost setup in my house.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:48PM IvanP91 said

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Id still rather have one major source for all Games entertainment. e3. I figure why cant we have all game-news in one place.

One stop for all your game needs; motion control, 3D, etc. @ E3.

But thats just my opinion. Whats yours?
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:51PM TheDarkWayne said

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wat
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:04PM (Unverified) said

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Say what homie?
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 8:59PM mrmobius said

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Do you want heart palpitations? E3 had enough without adding all the announcements from other conventions all in the space of E3.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 4:50PM TheDarkWayne said

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After Avatar i don't think ill ever be able to watch anything without 3D subtitles again
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:07PM BananaBoat said

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You are the only person with enough money to implement 3D at home. Hell, even Alfred's quarters probably have a 3D capable TV.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:12PM (Unverified) said

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Are you kidding? The bathtubs are made from 3DTV's!
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 12:33AM Chibi Chaingun said

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Bananaboat: 3d capable TVs have been out for a few years and have SOLD tons yet most people don't even know they can do 3d. A huge chunk of Samsung and Mits DLPs sold since 07 have been 3d ready.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:03PM (Unverified) said

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After watching Avatar, 3D gaming might not be such a bad idea after all.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:06PM BananaBoat said

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In my mind this summit consists of two guys sitting in a Denny's. The first guy calls the summit to order, and asks the second guy to give the opening speech. The opening speech consists of only a few words, and ends with "and that is why no one is gaming in 3D, thank you." The two gentlemen then retire to drown their sorrows at the local pub.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:13PM (Unverified) said

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It seems like a lot of weird stuff happens in your mind, am I right?
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:25PM BananaBoat said

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Yep
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:07PM (Unverified) said

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I don't want this forced on my gaming though...
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:31PM arnavdesai said

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The problem with 3d gaming is that in all their implementations so far, there are at least a certain section of the public which cannot handle 3d and have nauseating feelings. It will change obviously and game designers will know how to implement proper 3d but I think that will take at least 10-15 years more.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 9:37PM mrmobius said

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You're correct from a medical point of view as well. Any people with a strabismus (squint) or who had a squint during most of childhood can't see in 3D.
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 4:52PM Robo said

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Screw em...

Getting sick of being held back while constantly catering to the least common denominator.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:37PM Rhamsey said

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When I first saw the image I thought it said 3D gaming suit. I was really excited.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 5:58PM Ahti said

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Just wanted to chime in on my thoughts. I recently bought a new vid card, and the 3D vision kit for my TV. It really makes the games much more enjoyable and immersive. Batman Arkham Asylum is the best implementation I have seen with the technology since my purchase. I felt I enjoyed the tech much more with shooters and action games. RPG's not so much because of longer droughts between aciton segments. It just began to feel tedious.

For anyone curious, I suggest giving it a try. However, the price of admission can be a bit much depending on the tech you have pre 3d Vision kit. For me though, the price was well worth it.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 7:39PM RKN said

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I have a Geforce GTX 285 but I don't want to give up my existing 28" 1920x1200 display right now for those 3D monitors that are 22" and 1680x1050.

I've heard that 120hz HDTVs and 120hz computer monitors are different, that TVs only fake it and so can't really run 3D like PC monitors.

I'm still not buying the 3D tech, but haven't tried it out either. ; D
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 10:49PM Smurf said

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Dragon Age: Origins, Far Cry 2, and Mass Effect are also excellent. I'm playing through Grand Theft Auto 4 now, too. For this game, I sometimes have to turn off 3D (CTRL-T) for cut scenes that have faces that are supposed to be about 2 inches from the camera. No other games have these cut scenes... strangely just GTA4. Maybe they thought that made the cut scenes more intense.

Anyhow, TONS of games work well... I've just bought Batman Arkahm Asylum, Ghostbusters, and Star Wars: KOTOR.... which are also supposed to be excellent with 3D. Enjoy having 3D a year or two before the rest of the public re-discovers it. For now, you can still WOW your friends and relatives with it. :)
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 11:46PM Ahti said

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@ nerdydesi

A majority of the HDTV's out now claim the 120hz tag, but it isn't true 120hz. From what I've read they basically insert artificial frames to make the picture appear smoother, thats it. A TV that has TRUE 120hz input and output is capable of the 3D tech. Most DLP's and some Plamsma TVs are capable of this feature, so you can still get your high resolution (1920x1080) with a slice of 3D on the side. Next year you will start seeing big screen LCD's enter the arena with this feature. TRUE 120Hz TV's will start to become as mainstream as the fake 120hz TV's in the coming years.
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 12:37AM Chibi Chaingun said

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@nerdy: you can get a 3d ready projector for under $500, up to 20' (yes FOOT) screen.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 9:01PM Mr Khan said

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Let's at least see some worthwhile consumer-end implementation before we get all into this.
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 12:39AM Chibi Chaingun said

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Nvidia 3d Vision or TriDef system has you covered.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2009 10:34PM Smurf said

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It is so refreshing to hear how many people's opinions have changed on 3D entertainment, post-Avatar. I've been re-buying my 360 games on PC so I can replay them in 3D with my NV 3D Vision. (Samsung 2233rz)

3D offers an awesome, additional level of immersion... I can't wait to buy a 3D HDTV. I'm going to have to suck it up and buy a PS3 it seems, too.
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 11:47AM (Unverified) said

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those 3d capable tvs are great I got to play on one at PAX this year. But I just got a flat screen and there is no way I am going to buy an even more expensive 3d tv just for a couple of games. I someone should tell those game developers that we need better games not games with gimmicks
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 10:17AM Wesscoast said

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"3D gaming is now big enough for its own summit"

No, its just a really small summit. Think "Microsoft Store" small...
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 10:22AM (Unverified) said

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Is my HDTV 3D ready?... Its a 40" Sony Bravia that can run at 200hz.
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 12:06PM Chibi Chaingun said

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Probably not, but what is the model? Sometimes they work despite not being an official 3D TV.
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Posted: Dec 27th 2009 1:44PM (Unverified) said

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@ Chibi Chaingun

The model number is KDL-40Z4500.
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