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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:01AM copa said

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That is so weird. It's almost like Modern Warfare 2 isn't the colossal failure of a game that the commenters here claim to be.

It's like people actually bought the game, and enjoyed it, and recommended it to their friends.

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:05AM (Unverified) said

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I don't remember anyone saying it was a colossal failure.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:07AM whylekat said

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I bought the game and enjoyed it. But wouldn't recommend it to anyone past saying "Its like Call of Dury 4, but With slightly more stuff.."

And I'd be sure to follow that up with "just wait for Bad Company 2, it's going to be much better."

then I'd go back to playing Borderlands.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:11AM copa said

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"However, Modern Warfare 2 isn't simply a disappointment -- it's a damn travesty. Not only is the campaign's story mode nonsensical, it does little to do justice to the brave soldiers in our military."

That is actually one of the site editors, many of the commenters here have been much harsher.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:11AM Rob Liv said

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WARNING!
The comments made by Tmac do not represent those of the Joystiq community.

:D
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:17AM Dr Perry Ulysses Cox said

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Copa,
I call this bashing of MW2 the "GTA 4 Effect."
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:20AM (Unverified) said

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Well, Yoon's comments were strong, but deserved.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:22AM TheDarkWayne said

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Let's not kid ourselves here, both sides. We all know people bought MW2 for the multiplayer which, hatred of IW and single player or not, is almost undeniably great with the possible exception of the community. The campaign could be absolute shit, and it probably would barely make a difference in sales at all
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:23AM (Unverified) said

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Review: MW2:

"Though we can't comment on the plastic night vision goggles or the other bonuses you'll get in the Hardened and Prestige editions, the actual disc containing the game is well worth every cent you'll shell out for it."


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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:27AM TheDarkWayne said

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What an idiotic thing to say teh troll. Guess what? Uncharted is a shooter, why is it stupid to expect other games to have a story as good as that? It's certainly possible, Maybe if people actually gave a shit instead of being so willfully compliant, shooters would have good stories that are actually comprehensible
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:31AM (Unverified) said

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Teh Troll, CoD4 had a great story, 5 had a pretty good story...why should we give IW a pass for screwing up MW2's story?
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:40AM Dr Perry Ulysses Cox said

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I think that Modern Warfare 2 had an okay if vague story that allowed for a lot of extremely varied environments and a ton of "oh-shit!" moments. It's no Uncharted 2, but i would attribute that more to Nathan Drake's character development and dialogue than it's actual story of magic tree sap and psychotic mountain men with a penchant for dress-up.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:40AM (Unverified) said

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I thought BF:BC2 beta was boring as hell.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:58AM Wiizer said

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"but if you want a good story go play Final Fantasy 7 or Zelda ocarina of time."

Why is it so hard to tell a great story in a FPS? I mean, Bioshock has done it.

My thing is this; from the outside, it looks lazy. Like IW accepted that their game is a FPS, and they just focused on the multiplayer or trimmed the story to where it was unrecognizable.

Well, I think most of us are looking for the something that pushes the genre much further than the status quo. (Hell, I hate the genre but I could stand FPS's if they told great stories.)

The two games you listed are arguably two of the best games... ever. Imagine a FPS with that amount of thought detailed into it.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 1:03PM (Unverified) said

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"WARNING!
The comments made by Tmac do not represent those of the Joystiq community"


Why did this dumbass get voted up? I've been one of the extremely few supporters of MW2 here.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 2:41PM LettucePrey said

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In my opinion, MW2 went the way that many of us old-timers are afraid ALL games are going to go in the not-so-distant future: focus on the multiplayer component, and throw in the campaign mode as an afterthought only. Sure, the online experience is amazing, but guess what...I've never played it and have no intention to. So for me, who is really only interested in the campaign mode...MW2 was a letdown. Sorry, but it was...
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 9:31PM (Unverified) said

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@victoria

you just stated what everyone already knows...... (no offense just pointing it out)
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:03AM (Unverified) said

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Is this gonna be posted every freakin Monday then?

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:10AM zefur said

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So how long have you been a member of this site?
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:16AM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said

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Didn't see this one coming؟

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:17AM MystileArmor said

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I'd hit that...

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:24AM Dr Perry Ulysses Cox said

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No offense, but you're not exactly known around here for your discriminating taste, Mystile.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:26AM MystileArmor said

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Yes, and?
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:29AM Rob Liv said

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This discriminating taste...and the mysterious dissapearence of Uter...And now they're serving us this "Uterbroten"?
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:39AM PR0F3TA said

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every time i hear a Simpsons reference i smile
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:42AM Dr Perry Ulysses Cox said

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You could say that we just ate Mystile and he's in our stomachs right now!
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:57AM Petebot330 said

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Is that Brooke Burke? She looks vaguely familiar, but more plasticky...
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 12:01PM (Unverified) said

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Simpsons haven't been funny since 1994
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 12:10PM Hooch said

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Yes, it's an image from one of the Comic style cutscenes in Need For Speed Underground 2 - which is an awesmoe game
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 1:56PM BananaBoat said

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I've been wanting to hit that since I first saw the show "Wild On" on the E! channel as a kid.

I wouldn't drink her bathwater though...you sick bastard :P
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:19AM TheDarkWayne said

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I'm disappointed in all of you, you suck.
TAROK MAKTO!
There, fuck you guys

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:25AM TheDarkWayne said

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You know i think i'm gonna go see it a fifth time now
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 1:56PM Sly C said

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why does that sound familiar? i'm thinking avatar, but i have a feeling it's not that.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 2:24PM Unvrfd said

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...because it should be Toruk Macto. (Turok anyone?)
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 3:13PM TheDarkWayne said

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yes Sly it's what the Na'vi called Jake after he wrangled the big dragon thing. And according to james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com it should be spelled Toruk Makto
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 7:09PM Sly C said

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ahh, that's right. am i the only one that thinks avatar was overrated? the story was way too cliched. it's 3D was incredible though, i'll definitely admit that.
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Posted: Jan 5th 2010 2:17PM Unvrfd said

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Sly: the script was watered down to turn a bigger profit. Here's a comparison with the original: http://chud.com/articles/articles/21969/1/PROJECT-880-THE-AVATAR-THAT-ALMOST-WAS/Page1.html
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:22AM (Unverified) said

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Thank you, Joystiq, for changing the picture!

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:23AM (Unverified) said

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Why?

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:50AM whylekat said

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You're dumb. Just the fact that you are able to blow apart cover (including houses) just like in real life makes BC infinetly better then any other war shooter to come before it.

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 11:55AM (Unverified) said

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Killzone's story, while flat, makes sense. MW2 is just "BOOM EXPLOSIONS DEATH EXPLOSIONS BAYVISION!"

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 12:00PM (Unverified) said

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And Killzone's is: RAAWWRR, TUFFF MEN FIGHTING WAR!! FUCK!!!!!

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 12:03PM bigphil2003 said

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"Footie fax"?

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 1:04PM Organic Jerk said

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@ Demoman: I'm making an observation.

We can play whatever we want for whatever reasons we want. At least we think about these things enough to make seemingly good decisions.

But the mass (who buy games like Mass Effect and then say "WTF is this shit?! Fuck that I'm selling this shit when the next CoD comes out) plays whatever based on nothing but big money machismo marketing and a misplaced sense of brand loyalty.

So when we read numbers and wonder where all this support comes for a game that may or may not exceed expectations, (Look at ANY Madden's sale numbers), this may be where it comes from. The mass will buy en masse whatever they have been *successfully* marketed into buying...whether that product is actually good is 50/50.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 1:06PM Organic Jerk said

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UGH sorry.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2010 12:06PM (Unverified) said

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These Battlefield fanboys just popped out of nowhere. They didn't like MW2 because it was getting popular, and so they tried to find an inferior competitor to cheer on. Oh, look, a post on Joystiq about Bad Company 2, I'll automatically say that game is better even though I didn't even play it (before the beta came out).

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 12:07PM (Unverified) said

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Umm... Battlefield isn't the first game to be able to do that.

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 12:09PM (Unverified) said

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You know, Demoman...Battlefield's kinda been around a while...

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 12:13PM TheDarkWayne said

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I really enjoyed KZ2s story even though it was mostly "YO, IM BLACK! YOU GOT A FUNNY MOHAWK! GET DOHS SPACE NAZIS! AH SHIT SPACE HITLER SUNK MAH BATTLESHIP"

Posted: Jan 4th 2010 12:22PM (Unverified) said

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I'm talking about console Battlefield fanboys on this site more specifically. Bad Company fanboys to be even more specific.

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