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Posted: Jan 14th 2010 11:57PM Funkmaster General said

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I love digital distribution when it comes to Steam and GoG, but only then when there are sales.

Oh, and the game has to be old. I refuse to buy digital copies of new games instead of a physical copy.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:00AM Voltron said

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Its always nice to look at a shelf of games even if it is more convenient to look at a list of games

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:01AM ArchiGamer said

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The word 'duh' comes to mind...

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:01AM Frito said

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Do they not track Steam downloads?

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 1:15AM Kyammi said

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Of course they do as best they can. Fact is even on PC digital distribution isn't as significant as some out of touch people think.

Think of the best selling retail PC game of 2009, Sims 3. Think of the people that buy such a game. They don't even know what a Steam is! World of Warcraft? Same scenario.

Digital distribution is small time. I just hope it never becomes the only option.
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 11:02AM blahblah55 said

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Look at every GameStop in the world... every other shop has at least one customer browsing. Every shop at least makes 10 sales a week.
Take also into account every Target, Walmart, Costco, and every other major retailer that sells games.

If all of them are able to get rid of their inventory of games to make a profit per months, the number of Steam downloads would be a joke in comparison.

...also considering that most games aren't on Steam...

Steam is great, but it's only perfect to those that use it (and there's an entire population out there that doesn't even know it exists).
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:02AM Railgun said

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I only would purchase digital if its less than half the cost of the physical copy. Why else would I ever want to digitally purchase my games that I can't resell, or let my friends borrow? Not to mention having a nice case sitting on your shelf looks far better.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 7:39AM Bad Bieber 4 Life said

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Agreed.
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:09AM (Unverified) said

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I think more people would be willing to purchase digitally for new releases. Unfortunately by the time a game becomes a digital release, most of us already have the hard copy.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:14AM JONNNathannn said

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I don't mind digital distribution, I'll buy XBLA games or games on my iPhone and don't feel the need to have a physical copy of a game...but if I'm doing this, I shouldn't have to pay the same price as the physical equivalent. If the retail copy is $59 and the digital download is $59, then why go digital? There should be savings in there somewhere in comparison.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:15AM The Blank Mage Returns said

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I really only use Gamefly and Steam, personally. There aren't many console games I feel I need to own rather than rent.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:16AM Imperious Perfect said

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Biggest problem i have with the digital games is once the game is attributed to an account it is stuck there forever not to be transferred or moved. The problem attached is say an XBLA or PSN id is banned destroyed corrupted or rendered otherwise unusable then the said digital content that has been paid for is also lost.
My buddy was having some problems with his XBLA account he was on the phone with XBOX support and they were remote accessing his xbox360 when the power went out. He lost his account it was not accessible through any means. He tried to get in contact with xbox support again but to no avail. He ended up getting another account.
If you download a psp game you can actually have it downloaded to up to 5 psps.
So far i have yet to pay full price for the xbox content. I always wait for the deals of the week to be decent enough to get. 400MSP or 5USD to me is the most a digital download will ever be worth. and make that movie download/payperview a dollar or stick with netflix. It makes sense to make game add-on content digitally distributed but then again sometimes they see hard copy release also, HALO 3. As much as possible i purchase disc versions of XBLA games popcap arcade, konami collection, arcade unplugged ect, those are hard copies of otherwise digital games.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:16AM Puertoricarious said

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hmmm, i wonder if this has SOMETHING to do with the fact that MOST games are only available in retail, physical format? this news is worthwhile if it only considers games that are available in physical and digital forms, otherwise it's useless information.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:29AM gettinmoney662 said

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For real. What's even more surprising is you're the only one who has brought this up while everyone is still arguing what they prefer like this article is news.

This is like saying people still mostly play basketball on a basketball court.

90 percent of sales were physical copies because 90% of the games out there are only available physically.
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:19AM Brunibrun said

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Physical > Digital
Every time.

Y'get nice casing, artwork, manual, media format, tradablibity, resellability, and it's aesthetically pleasing to have a shelf with titled spines that you can always pull out, open and play.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:42AM The Blank Mage Returns said

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But you can also loose them, or damage them.
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:53AM Special Agent Steve said

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And then sell them to your friend (the one who's never fully on track).
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 1:11AM davek said

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They both have their advantages and disadvantages.

I like digitally distributed games because you can play them directly off the hard drive. No need to physically remove any previous disc, and insert new disc. They don't get dusty, don't need to be cleaned. It's convenient to download a game and play it, without having to physically shop around for it.

I like physical copies because it looks cool to have a bookshelf of titles. Makes me feel like a proper collector. Especially for groundbreaking or landmark games, which you want to keep and display. I like not having to download gigabytes of game data through the Internet. Physical copies are more often on sale, because retailers are always in competition with each other. There is no competition with the PSN (ps3), Steam (PC), or Xbox Live (xbox360). They're all on completely different systems.
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:59AM ArgyleBandit said

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If digital is a lot cheaper then it would beat the heck out of physical. Money talks.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 1:02AM nighttime said

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I hate it too, I like having physical copies. It's easier to insure also.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 2:21AM Sekai said

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Maybe digital distro will be the standard one day.

That day will need fast internet for cheap/free.
And hd space up the whazooo. I'd personally have a game i like sit on my shelf than take up what little hd space i have :x

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 2:22AM oldmancrosby said

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We're American. It's what we do. Go about your business. Sell your soul.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 2:31AM SisypheanLife said

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For PC, I vastly prefer digital copies. The discounts run much deeper than anything I could find in a store. For consoles, we don't have any options, other than the overpriced copies MS and Sony will sell us. The lack of competition on consoles makes DD pointless.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 2:51AM PN04 said

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IN YOUR FACE DIGITAL FUCKING DOWNLOAD!

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 2:55AM SpeeGold said

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Generally I prefer physical copies with a few exceptions.With things like XBLA and PSN games there usually isn't a choice to buy a physical copy. The only time I actually make the choice to buy downloadable vs. physical is when Steam has a ridiculous sale... which seems to happen constantly.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 3:40AM (Unverified) said

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Reason I still buy Physical Copies is because its always mine and it will never get deleted or remove completely off account

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 3:42AM (Unverified) said

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plus...I dont have the right type of internet connection at the moment
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 5:08AM (Unverified) said

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yo lary. da bombb
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 3:41AM pika2000 said

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I wish Steam put out a feature to "sell" your games that you purchased from Steam. I mean Steam has all the records and associations between the game and your account, so I don't see why they can't just dissociate the game from your account and give you credit. This is an opportunity for Steam as used PC games on physical media market is dead thanks to 1-time-use-serials and draconian DRM.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 10:02AM GuardianLegend said

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Me too. I will never get to play Torchlight if they never release a boxed copy or introduce an idea such as yours.
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 1:46PM SisypheanLife said

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Didn't Torchlight just get released in retail?
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 4:36AM Pure Black World Tendency said

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I can't see how digital distribution will completely take over the market in some years (like analysts keep saying) unless they force us to buy everything this way.

Like others here I like to trade in or sell some games when I'm done with them.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:58PM (Unverified) said

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1/10 being digital downloads is still a lot! especially when so many of the top games are disc-based only. You're competing Flower with LittleBigPlanet. You're competing Warhawk versus a cheaper version of the same game with a bonus headset. And then you still have to wait for the culture to accept having their games permanently. These things take time and effort which just isn't there yet.

At the same time though, digital downloads are really nice for some games. Think of buying PixleJunkMonsters on a disc. that's when you scratch your head and go "that'd never work".

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 7:41AM (Unverified) said

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I buy both Physical Copies and Digitial.... But I dont really Like having to purchase Physical Copies any more.... its so 2000's.

I would Love to be able to purchase New Releases on DAY ONE, thru XBOX LIVE...If I can do it on STEAM why not XBOX.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 7:43AM (Unverified) said

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Oh they will, because That way they dont lose any money with people buying used...

Its coming soonner or later..(I'm thinking in the next 4 years)

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 8:19AM GWord said

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Hell, I still buy music in physical format...

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 9:19AM (Unverified) said

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Heh, The Orange Box, I see what you probably didn't mean to do there.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 9:55AM WMcPete said

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I think if Microsoft and Sony offered full retail games at competitive prices, like how Steam operates, then digital distribution would take off in a major way. The pricing structure on most Xbox Games on Demand and digital PSP games is a bit out of hand. For digital distribution to work, they need to not only compete with the cost of new retail hard copies, but take used copies (like Amazon, Ebay, ect) into consideration as well.

I think most XBLA and PSN titles are priced fairly. Its the pricing on console full retail versions of games they need to work on.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 10:11AM debosbike said

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I'm not against physical copies, but let's move past optical discs and drives. I would like to see more of a SD card type of storage. This would do away with loud/slow optical drives. It has to be loud to be fast or it has to be slow to be quiet.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 10:58AM Maxton said

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Newsflash: NPD doesn't track digital distribution (or Wal-Mart). So...

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 11:20AM Rather Dashing said

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I don't actually LIKE the idea of the box itself. That is, I sort of do, but the box itself is not a dealbreaker. What I like is having a transferable game license. Until digital provide a way for me to delete my game from my hard drive and turn my license into a code that I can sell, give away, or trade, the box will beat the digital copy at the same price.

But I also like the benefit of a well-executed digtal copy. Steam's sale prices provide enough of a benefit to me to push it over the edge, and I'll generally buy games at those prices. Another thing that has impressed me has been Telltale's distribution system, which basically gives me a physical disc license on top of my digital one.

But paying as much as the PC Special Edition that has physical extras for the digital extras, and the privilege of playing it without a disc? Not interested there. And I don't see why cutting a cost on their end does not cut a cost on mine on most new games.

I'd love to go digital, but the cost and the hassle of a lot of the stores and licenses are too much for me to easily make the conversion. I have my Steam games, sure, but it's an uneasy alliance at best.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 11:26AM dpaul420 said

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I will wait until the PS4 before I worry about digital copies. I am ok paying $5-20 for a game I will play for a bit and never again, but not for a $70 game. I only play games ONCE, no matter what the game, and what DLC they throw at me, and then I move on, otherwise I will never get through my list
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/12/video-game-release-date-calendar-q1-q2-2010/#top

Plus, the idea of a "used" copy of a digital game is inherently wrong. I do agree with some sort of credit though. Not really sure, but it doesn't seem like gamerz will ever get the better deal.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 11:37AM Katana Master said

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Well it's not like you can download a game like MW2, Darksiders, Halo, etc... For the console like the PC doe sit.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 11:54AM paper said

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The only way I will choose the digital copy over the physical is if the price is alot cheaper. If I get the same value but can still have an awesome box to add to my ever growing collection then I would strongly prefer the Boxed copy over simply purchasing 1s and 0s.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 12:43PM cylet said

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its because nobody likes buying additional memory.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 1:27PM (Unverified) said

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The reason I have not purchased an "on demand" game via XBL is because I have no idea if I can transfer or re-download on the next version of the Xbox. I'm going to assume physical discs will be backwards compatible...

I'm not concerned with owning a physical disc or packaging and have no interest in trading in games.

In regards to letting your friends borrow; then Microsoft/Sony should create some sort of "license" transfer/trading between your "friends". Once I let friend-A borrow GTA4; I cannot play it until he/she transfers/trades the license back. Friends would of course need to download the game. Maybe even the owner of said game can force the license back... protecting against theft or forgetfulness...

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 1:37PM (Unverified) said

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Additionally "Massmass" is wrong for suggesting digital distribution won't take off until the U.S. has a better broadband structure. If true, how do you explain piracy (games, movies, music, software, etc.)? Or even legitimate examples like iTunes? Or streaming HD movies via Netflix? Or all the demo downloads on XBL?

Another great example is letting the end user pre-download the game before it's available and then on the release date they can purchase and unlock. Steam started this practice years ago and it's worked well.
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Posted: Jan 15th 2010 2:43PM tonyprince said

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digi distro is the future. Apple is already doing it and its called iTunes.

Posted: Jan 15th 2010 2:46PM Stanto said

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I'm about to move to a city where 3G net access barely has any coverage, and the best broadband speeds are akin to narrowband ISDN.

Where the ISPs have said that they want the residents to club together, pay for the core line upgrades and the council permission to dig up the ground.

I'm now regretting my digital download purchases and wishing I had physical copies of them all because I won't be able to access most of them, especially with steam if I have to re-install the software or so much as forget to 'restart in offline mode'.

Even if I did manage to get the ADSL, I'd be under strict monthly bandwidth limits, and I used 100gb last month grabbing the steam games, ISOs and software updates, let alone surfing youtube.

It's only just outside Leeds in the UK, too. A major city.

Props to physical copies.

Posted: Jan 21st 2010 1:25AM Diosoth said

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People prefer physical copies because they want to actually OWN a real copy of what they buy, not some software code and a license that can be revoked. I like being able to sell off a copy of a game if I get sick of playing it. Unfortunately, the game companies will eventually switch to a full digital format because they've made it clear they don't want us selling or buying used copies.

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