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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 3:37AM Wiizer said

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvNJE4FFPP8

JAM! Guess as long as the song didn't have "NBA" at the front of it, MJ was good to go.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 3:53AM juggalotusmx said

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Too bad there's no jordans bairds barkleys magics anymore just..ahem... lebrons......
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 4:10AM embassy said

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If I remember correctly, none of those players were ever in an NBA Jam game and that didn't affect the fun of those games at all.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 5:39AM MowDownJoe said

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True, but they did eventually put a generic guy onto the Bulls that was supposed to be Jordan, even if his name didn't say that.

And they did have Rodman, and all his different hairstyles.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 1:17PM asinine said

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@ avan - larry bird was retired in '92, nba jam came out in '93. charles barkley was in the game (he played for the suns) and magic johnson was retired at the time.

@ MowDownJoe - that " generic guy " you're thinking of is horace grant and he was everything but generic. dennis rodman played for the spurs at the time not the bulls and he was only on tournament edition (he could have been on the bulls on the '95 snes port but i'm not 100% sure).
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 8:36AM Foetoid said

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ITS A DOUBLE DUNK!!!

I remember NBA Hangtime on the N64, LOVED that game. I would be able to control it so that as i executed a double-dunk, i would pass it just in time for the cpu player to dunk it, and as they dunked it, they passed to me as i was dunking it. It was the never-ending double-dunk!!
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 9:35AM Vcize said

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I hate to kill your buzz, but a lot of people did that.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 9:34AM Vcize said

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This is interesting stuff.

So legally at this point I could make a game called Xenogears or Chrono Trigger?
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 9:40AM sonicspike41 said

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Chrono Trigger I would guess not, what with the recent DS revival and all. Xenogears is a maybe, unless Square Enix has it on the PSN anytime soon.

Also, does this take into account international sales? For example, would a game on the Japanese PSN be considered "using the mark in the marketplace"?
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 1:50AM embassy said

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No, not at all.

NBA JAM wouldn't be trademarkable without "NBA". You can't trademark the word "JAM" since it's a commonly used term - meaning: unless you own (or license) the NBA trademark then the NBA JAM trademark is useless.

Xenogears/ChronoTrigger are unique (not general words), known quantities that I'm sure are still being used throughout the world. Plus CT is part of the "Chrono" line which is still in the marketplace in some form. Being "in the marketplace" doesn't always necessarily mean a new game in this case. Conclusion, the owner of those franchises would sue you to Pluto.

Point being: The NBA JAM case is totally different from most other trademarks because of its reliance on the NBA trademark - so you really can't apply this case universally.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 10:04AM vidguy said

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Well the three years of non-use only creates a rebuttable presumption of abandonment. The trademark owner can keep the mark if he shows that he had an intent to resume use within the foreseeable future - so that could be a factor here.

It's not a good idea to go around using marks that have been used before, especially if that use was widespread.

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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 10:59AM MarkMethenitis said

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Thanks for adding that. I wasn't as clear on that point as I probably should have been.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 11:46AM Istari Spartan said

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It's on fire!
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Posted: Jan 20th 2010 1:35PM (Unverified) said

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Although trademark is not an issue here, the copyright holder for the original NBA Jam could have a claim against EA (not for the title, but for the game itself as a copy or derivative work).
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