New Old Mario is stomping all over the mark left by his globetrotting counterpart, with sales of New Super Mario Bros. Wii having already surpassed Super Mario Galaxy in the US. According to the NPD, Galaxy has sold approximately 4.1 million units in the two years since its November 2007 release, while NSMBW has amassed 4.2 million sales in about 45 days.
As IGN notes, the Wii's install base is much higher now (26 million in the US), but that still doesn't explain why Galaxy, which has had far more time on retail shelves, was passed by so quickly. We'd posit that there's something nostalgic about NSMBW, which makes it stand apart from Galaxy and speak to the Wii's demographic. Of course, Super Mario Galaxy 2 will have the benefit of being quite familiar too ...
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:31PM Co said
"there's something nostalgic about NSMBW, which makes it stand apart from Galaxy and speak to the Wii's demographic"
Exactly. Which is why I find the false node that the Wii's demograph is all soccer moms and grand parents (sure those type of stories make great articles and whatnot, but it's a light shinning on a small percentage) even more baffling.
The majority of Wii owners are die hard Nintendo heads, sure, but also the guy (and gal) that grew up 7, 8, 9 years old addicted to their NES and maybe even SNES, but fell out of gaming altogether after that time.
NSMBWii brings that large Wii audience back to that time.
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Exactly. Which is why I find the false node that the Wii's demograph is all soccer moms and grand parents (sure those type of stories make great articles and whatnot, but it's a light shinning on a small percentage) even more baffling.
The majority of Wii owners are die hard Nintendo heads, sure, but also the guy (and gal) that grew up 7, 8, 9 years old addicted to their NES and maybe even SNES, but fell out of gaming altogether after that time.
NSMBWii brings that large Wii audience back to that time.
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:35PM sindbad said
@Cody: Yeah, and it's a better, tighter, IMHO more beautiful game. I played it with family throughout the holiday break. Although we killed each other (in the game), and came close to killing each other (in real life), we had an absolute blast.
And I hate to use this term, but it is totally apt here: the end-boss fight was just . . . epic.
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And I hate to use this term, but it is totally apt here: the end-boss fight was just . . . epic.
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:41PM romevi said
@ Cody and petey:
I was one of those NES fans back in the day. I'm 23 now, but I grew up with the NES and, later, Sony's machines.
I played Galaxy and had a blast, but I think I'm favoring NSMBW more because I played the side-scrolling ones more as a child. It's definitely the best side-scroller in the series.
And the final boss fight was indeed epic. One of the best (and frustrating) boss fights I've ever come across.
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I was one of those NES fans back in the day. I'm 23 now, but I grew up with the NES and, later, Sony's machines.
I played Galaxy and had a blast, but I think I'm favoring NSMBW more because I played the side-scrolling ones more as a child. It's definitely the best side-scroller in the series.
And the final boss fight was indeed epic. One of the best (and frustrating) boss fights I've ever come across.
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:19PM (Unverified) said
Mario's 3D offerings have never sold as well as the 2D ones.
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:21PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
well Sushine was shit...and Galaxy is pretty damn slept on.....
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:35PM GewurztraminerX said
I know the point is debatable, but Sunshine was great! I never would have gotten Galaxy if I didn't enjoy Sunshine. For some reason it's Mario64 that I never enjoyed.
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 2:10PM Vegeta has a ps3 said
I never understood the hate Sunshine got. I guess people hated it because it wasn't a sequel to Mario 64.
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:27PM AntiVillian said
NO!
new things should be brought to the table, but actually... nevermind, you're right devs shouldn't mess with franchises.
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new things should be brought to the table, but actually... nevermind, you're right devs shouldn't mess with franchises.
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:43PM Chulipin said
Sure, developers should bring something new every once in a while, while trying to keep the spirit of the franchise alive...the problem is that Sega does it once, sees it doesn't work, and what's their solution? Add a new sidekick! or maybe a turn Sonic into a werewolf?
My conclusion is, if it didn't work the first time, go back...don't repeat your same mistake 5 more times!
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My conclusion is, if it didn't work the first time, go back...don't repeat your same mistake 5 more times!
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:19PM (Unverified) said
I guess I'm ok with this, as I had much more fun with nsmb than I did dragging myself through Galaxy. That being said, I'm hoping this news doesn't surprise anyone.
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:39PM (Unverified) said
Because people on here continue to assure me that it gets better. I play some more, still disappointed, and all I hear is "it gets better!".
Pretty soon I'm watching the end credits wondering why it didn't get better.
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Pretty soon I'm watching the end credits wondering why it didn't get better.
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:52PM (Unverified) said
When it comes to buying games I don't already have, no there's no one who could get me to buy a game I don't want. But all these Wii games I already had when I got the system, and I bought them on my own interest.
Main reason I kept with them is because I own them. If they were gamefly games I would have had no problem sending them back the moment I was disappointed with it.
But I do have Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, and Metroid Trilogy rotting on my shelf because I just can't force myself to go back and finish them, and with Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock 2 and Heavy Rain coming so soon I won't have the time to play those Wii games for a while.
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Main reason I kept with them is because I own them. If they were gamefly games I would have had no problem sending them back the moment I was disappointed with it.
But I do have Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, and Metroid Trilogy rotting on my shelf because I just can't force myself to go back and finish them, and with Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock 2 and Heavy Rain coming so soon I won't have the time to play those Wii games for a while.
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 5:04PM (Unverified) said
Well the whole reason I got the wii and the games is to try new things, and all it really did was confirm how much I don't like the system, or what Nintendo's doing with it.
Out of the 12 games I got, I only really liked 3 of them and one of those 3 is a port of a last gen game. It's easily the most disappointing system I've ever had.
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Out of the 12 games I got, I only really liked 3 of them and one of those 3 is a port of a last gen game. It's easily the most disappointing system I've ever had.
Posted: Jan 23rd 2010 10:43PM Innagadadavida said
He keeps posting but all I'm reading is: "BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M NOT SMART BLAH."
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:21PM (Unverified) said
It wouldn't be as much fun. The Wii Zapper is lame compared to the NES one.
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:56PM dantebk said
@samfish
I did play Wii Play, but I don't think it was Duck Hunt-y enough. No laughing dog = Not Duck Hunt. There are certain fundamentals in a franchise that have to be there for it to be considered a continuation, and with Duck Hunt the dog is almost as important as the ducks.
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I did play Wii Play, but I don't think it was Duck Hunt-y enough. No laughing dog = Not Duck Hunt. There are certain fundamentals in a franchise that have to be there for it to be considered a continuation, and with Duck Hunt the dog is almost as important as the ducks.
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:20PM Zoot Suit Jedi Grammar Hammer En said
Well, I personally enjoyed it more than Super Mario Galaxy...
and I'm awesome, so this really comes with little surprise.
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and I'm awesome, so this really comes with little surprise.
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:21PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
Well it IS a better game....not to mention it has that "party" factor....something that you can play with friends...can't do that with Galaxy....I mean sure the 2nd player can control the pointer on there but who gives a shit?
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:22PM samfish said
There's just something magic about New Super Mario Wii, I think. Even my freakin' PARENTS have a copy of the game now after they saw my brother and I playing it. Getting my mom, furthermore my dad, to even play (and enjoy!) a game even remotely 'core' in nature is akin to Hell freezing over while unicorns rain down from the sky for me.
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:41PM Co said
And see that story right there samfish is what puzzles me about so many other joystiq commenters. That story right there drives these kids mad around here with anger towards Wii and Nintendo in general.
Isn't that story right there what life is all about as a gamer?? Maybe it's because I'm 26, but stories like that, of which I have many similair, are the highlights of my gaming time over these last 4 years.
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Isn't that story right there what life is all about as a gamer?? Maybe it's because I'm 26, but stories like that, of which I have many similair, are the highlights of my gaming time over these last 4 years.
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 1:19PM GewurztraminerX said
"I don't understand why it's so popular. This game was basically already on DS"
Quite simply, NSMB Wii is to NSMB (DS), what SMB3 was to SMB.
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Quite simply, NSMB Wii is to NSMB (DS), what SMB3 was to SMB.
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 2:30PM redjack said
They scaled back the graphics to accomodate the multiplayer engine in the game and have it run smoothly. Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures was the first test of the co-op/competitive engine in play here. And that was SNES graphics on the Gamecube. I'm glad they took that idea and ran with it to create NSMB Wii.
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Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:39PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
See that sega? If you want fanboys to run back to your franchise, make sonic, tails and 2 Knuckles run through a 4player 2d side scroller and you will make millions.
Who is the person buying all these copies, why not just buy 1?
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Who is the person buying all these copies, why not just buy 1?
Posted: Jan 21st 2010 12:55PM Maulok said
Makes sense. Wii's casual audience can relate to 2D Mario games like the old days, but crazy flippy 3D Mario running on 360 degree spherical planets with gravity puzzles... Not as much. My wife said as much. Galaxy "made her carsick to watch" but NSMBWii made her eyes light up. "It's exactly like the old one! I'll play that!"
Still, Galaxy is a hell of an awesome game that sold like gangbusters to the Wii "gamer" crowd, and no sales figures can change that.
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Still, Galaxy is a hell of an awesome game that sold like gangbusters to the Wii "gamer" crowd, and no sales figures can change that.
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